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7/4/2008 11:51:14 AM EDT
Trying to put together a serious first aid kit.  ie-Curved sewing needles for stitches, scalpels, etc.  Anyone got any ideas of where I could legally get xylocaine or novocaine?  I'm not a doctor but if it came down to sewing myself up or bleeding out, I'd rather be prepared with the tools that will make it easier.  Something to numb up the patient's damaged area would definitely be a plus.
7/4/2008 1:23:29 PM EDT
[#1]
I ask this every time this subject comes up, are you trained to perform those procedures?
7/4/2008 2:21:42 PM EDT
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I ask this every time this subject comes up, are you trained to perform those procedures?


true shtf are any of us?

OP stick with what your trained with, having the stuff is cool, but unless  you know how to use it like MMD said,,,,


IMHO if your "bleeding" out.

get  some izzys a CAT, some gauze, ace wrap.... and antibiotics 1st..pain can be dealt with.
true SHTF..if your that bad off or someone else...make them comfy,, and get them back to loved ones so they can say goodbye....reality sucks!

YMMV
7/4/2008 3:22:08 PM EDT
[#3]

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I ask this every time this subject comes up, are you trained to perform those procedures?


Of course not...Though, if it comes down to it, I'm going to stitch myself up if I have no other option.  What would you recommend if I'm out in the middle of nowhere with a gash that needs stitches?  Hold out and try to find someone with the proper training?
7/4/2008 3:46:29 PM EDT
[#4]
holy crap - I love it when the 'experts' comes out and say crap like that - hello any idea what TEOTWAWKI and TSHTF means... well of course I'd prefer to go to a doctor and get great drugs but what if that just ain't possible...
7/4/2008 4:48:26 PM EDT
[#5]
Hell if you are determined to stitch yourself up, I have seen curved needles in fleamarkets. as for lidocaine and the like, I'd recommend a fifth of Jack Daniels. xylocaine won't do much and you won't be able to find novocaine; and if you are thinking of injecting a liocaine substance, the J.D. would be alot safer.
7/4/2008 5:12:05 PM EDT
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holy crap - I love it when the 'experts' comes out and say crap like that - hello any idea what TEOTWAWKI and TSHTF means... well of course I'd prefer to go to a doctor and get great drugs but what if that just ain't possible...


then you die fast or slowly from infection........pretty simple concept.
with some injuries unless you have the facilties to handle it and the skillyour dead! its that simple.
doesnt matter if its a plan crash in the jungles of burma or while playing reddawn!
7/4/2008 6:39:25 PM EDT
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Quoted:

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holy crap - I love it when the 'experts' comes out and say crap like that - hello any idea what TEOTWAWKI and TSHTF means... well of course I'd prefer to go to a doctor and get great drugs but what if that just ain't possible...


then you die fast or slowly from infection........pretty simple concept.
with some injuries unless you have the facilties to handle it and the skillyour dead! its that simple.
doesnt matter if its a plan crash in the jungles of burma or while playing reddawn!


horse shit - or maybe you get better...  I've patched myself and others up in over a dozen third world countries cause there is no way in hell we were going to the local hospital.  I once lanced and cleaned out a boil the size of a baseball on a guy's leg in a shithole in southern Russia and kept it clean for the four weeks we were stuck there.  It's like anything else - commonsense goes a long way in the absence of training.  'then you die fast or slowly from infection'... hahaha... that's just funny
7/4/2008 7:20:36 PM EDT
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Quoted:

Quoted:

Quoted:
holy crap - I love it when the 'experts' comes out and say crap like that - hello any idea what TEOTWAWKI and TSHTF means... well of course I'd prefer to go to a doctor and get great drugs but what if that just ain't possible...


then you die fast or slowly from infection........pretty simple concept.
with some injuries unless you have the facilties to handle it and the skillyour dead! its that simple.
doesnt matter if its a plan crash in the jungles of burma or while playing reddawn!


horse shit - or maybe you get better...  I've patched myself and others up in over a dozen third world countries cause there is no way in hell we were going to the local hospital.  I once lanced and cleaned out a boil the size of a baseball on a guy's leg in a shithole in southern Russia and kept it clean for the four weeks we were stuck there.  It's like anything else - commonsense goes a long way in the absence of training.  'then you die fast or slowly from infection'... hahaha... that's just funny


i love it when the experts come out claiming to have distilled old chettah piss to flush out a wound...gezze aint the internet  grand!


now you aint added shit to this thread except to troll..wanna ad some advice, do it,,if not move on....i have my opinion and you have yours but help the OP not come off high and mighty with nothing more than specualtion of what other posters are trained in!
7/4/2008 7:32:26 PM EDT
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i love it when the experts come out claiming to have distilled old chettah piss to flush out a wound...gezze aint the internet  grand!


now you aint added shit to this thread except to troll..wanna ad some advice, do it,,if not move on....i have my opinion and you have yours but help the OP not come off high and mighty with nothing more than specualtion of what other posters are trained in!


Hey you ignorant fuck - you are the one that chimed in with"stick with what your trained with, having the stuff is cool, but unless you know how to use it " so you are the one who hasn't added shit - you gave your opinion and I simply countered with my experience...  I gave him my advice and added experience to back it up - you haven't qualified that you know shit about shit - so shut the fuck up...
7/4/2008 9:19:02 PM EDT
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Hey you ignorant fuck - you are the one that chimed in with"stick with what your trained with, having the stuff is cool, but unless you know how to use it " so you are the one who hasn't added shit - you gave your opinion and I simply countered with my experience...  I gave him my advice and added experience to back it up - you haven't qualified that you know shit about shit - so shut the fuck up...


Hub,

I am having trouble reconciling the above with I Cor 6:9-12 in your sig line.  Can you help?  
7/4/2008 10:05:18 PM EDT
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Personal attacks, name calling