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1/12/2010 2:50:33 PM EDT
Heard glenn beck talking about it today while I was half paying attention. I went to their website and thought about trying some but I don't want to TRY a 2 week supply. Anyone ever dealt with them or tried their stuff, thoughts welcome also.

Food Insurance


pack looks nice but Im not sure it is a good idea to advertise that I have food in a SHTF situation.
1/12/2010 3:10:57 PM EDT
[#1]
Unless I missed it, I see no mention of total calories, or how big their servings are.  Alot of the freeze dried stuff i've seen afvertised lately really comes up short on caloric intake vs. how long they claim to feed X number of people.  And if im understanding it, they count one pouch of food as 2 servings (in the dinners anyways) .  If this is like the Mtn House pouches, then in a SHTF situation, your gonna have to have a working fridge to save the 2nd serving in as it counts as your dinner.  Or next days lunch.
1/12/2010 3:19:20 PM EDT
[#2]
Quoted:
Heard glenn beck talking about it today while I was half paying attention. I went to their website and thought about trying some but I don't want to TRY a 2 week supply. Anyone ever dealt with them or tried their stuff, thoughts welcome also.
Food Insurance
pack looks nice but Im not sure it is a good idea to advertise that I have food in a SHTF situation.


Mind you, this is only after a preliminary scan...

There is not a lot of information on the site... which is very pretty... about exactly what one receives in the way of food.  When I see a site selling freeze dried foods I want to see exactly how much by weight I an getting of each item.  This site seems to have everything in "portions" and "pouches".  That aren't  valid units of measurement.    Other places they refer to cans... again, net weights of can content are not given.  No real nutrition data.  No caloric data.  

There's just not enough info to go off of actually posted on the site.

And that is a BAD thing.

Probably better than not prepping at all.

But I'll continue using other sources.

1/12/2010 5:49:44 PM EDT
[#3]
pretty much what I was thinking. I was even willing to purchase a few pouches or a can to try out and see how much food it was. There is no way to do that without diving in head first.

Like you said the website is "pretty" but it lacks sustenance not a good sign when you are selling food for SHTF. Guess I will just bookmark it and see if it changes after a while.
1/12/2010 6:22:12 PM EDT
[#4]
Sounds like Mountain House to me. Bags, #10 cans... I don't see any reason to think that it would be anything different from MH from a caloric and serving perspective.





ETA: That said, I don't know that there is a compelling reason to choose them over MH, unless a guy just wants to buy something and be done with it (at whatever quantity/price level). There's maybe something to be said for having the cutesy kit with the water filter, heater, etc. I don't have any of that, so I don't know how useful or valuable those items are. And the OP mentioned it, I'm not sure I'd want to be bugging out in a world of hungry people with a backpack that says "Food Insurance" on it...



 
1/12/2010 9:38:30 PM EDT
[#5]
check out http://www.efoodsdirect.com

While I haven't purchased from them, it was highly recommend by a bunch of people.

I plan to give them a try.
1/13/2010 1:00:29 AM EDT
[#6]
Quoted:
check out http://www.efoodsdirect.com

While I haven't purchased from them, it was highly recommend by a bunch of people.

I plan to give them a try.


Just took a look at them, like the look of their soups.  I will have to order a couple of pouches to sample and see how they prepare and taste.  Looks interesting, thought the prices look to be high end.
1/13/2010 2:20:32 AM EDT
[#7]
200$ for a made in china pack, stuffed with freeze dried foods,a heavy ass crank radio,esbit stove,water bottle water filter and cheap cook ware.....



wonder if there's any room left in that pack for clothing, other gear that is necessary to your survival outside of your home( tent,tarp,sleeping bags,etc)more than likely not.



sorry im only ranting about what i 1st saw not what the rest of the site has to offer
1/13/2010 2:50:13 AM EDT
[#8]
To get the total calorie count you have to hover over the products and do the math.  IIRC when I did this food insurance and efoods both run in the 1500-1800 calorie per day range (I did efoods in a thread on here a month or two ago and the one week was about 10000 calories  per day and either a quarter or thread of those calories came from one meal––the mac and cheese IIRC).  So better than nothing but not worth the money IMO.  They both struck me as being glorified versions of the often asked about and equally criticized bucket oh crap from costco.  (If you look at the menu's they are surprisingly similar.)

For a quick example look at their mashed potatos.  Same calories serving size etc as a foil pouch of idahoan or betty crocker mashed potatos that run sixty cents to a dollar at walmart.  OR compare the mac and cheese to velveeta shells and cheese that you can get at sams in a box of 5.

ETA:As some one else mentioned––-if you have to go looking for the calorie count on a prepackaged food supply, there is probably a reason (and a bad one from the buyers view point) for it.  Emergency Essentials lists the calorie count on most one year supplies in the catalog, iirc they are just about all over 2K calories.  So when comparison shopping on supply kits, look at calories per $ not "servings" or "meals" etc.

ETA2:  Efoods may not be the company I was thinking of.  I will try to do more digging tonight as I am getting busy at work.  However, a Quick look showed their 60 day grab and go at $389.  Thats about the same price as a year supply of grains from Emergency Essentials.  The EE option is bulkier but I think it represents better value for the money.  The foodinsurance 1264 meal kit READ THE DESCRIPTION––––it is 2 meals a day for five people for 6 months.  One meal is 2 cups.  It is also largely soup and instant foods you can probably get cheaper at the store.  Finally, I can find info on their financing more easily than I can find info on how many calories a day they are worth.

Before buying from any company I would do the math and a lot of comparison shopping.  I did mine a few years ago and decided to stick with Honeyville, Emergency Essentials, the LDS and my local Sams club and farm markets.  Finding out your 1 year supply of food is based on a pre-1944 concentration camp diet (1300-1700 calories depending on camp and work assignment)after the SHTF is not my idea of preparedness

JMHO YMMV
1/13/2010 9:19:41 PM EDT
[#9]
The Efoods linked is the same one from a month or two ago.  I just cut and pasted my response from there to here, note the price is currently 69.95 so IMO it is less of a deal than when I first wrote this.  Also, I do not know if the price includes shipping or if that is even more money.  To confirm my analysis hover your mouse over the listed items and it will give you serving size, number servings per pack number of packs etc.  Their mashed potatos info is identical to idahoans.  IIRC their rice mixes were pretty much identical to off the shelf rice a roni or zatarins mixes.

As to food insurance after spending about 10 or 15 minutes looking I found zero information on calories.  Just the ever changing # of meals for a family of 5.  IIRC I believe they used to list it as 6 month one year etc supplies.  Could the change be calorie related?  I wound up emailing them for the calorie info and will post their response if and when I get one.



Ok, I double checked my math and had a 2k ooops. Instead of editing again I will start over.

Op, this kit is not as big a rip off as some I have seen posted here. It is better than say the costco bucket. It is still some what lacking.

Essentially, you are paying $62 for 10,540 calories. That is 1500 calories a day. Or about average for some one in a concentration camp in Nazi Germany prior to the spring of 1944. Fully one third of those calories (where the error occured) is from one meal––-8 servings of mac and cheese (2 packages four servings per @390 calories.) A five pack of velveeta shells and cheese probably equals one of those packs. Two of them at sams is probably $15 or less. That would leave you $47 for rice mixes, canned/foiled meat, pasta mix, soup mix oatmeal etc.

Ultimately when looking at any food supply ignore the number of meals and servings and look at the calorie count.

You might also sign up at emergency essentials––-they send sale lists to their email customers. Octobers sale was 25% off mountain house.

For bulk stuff EmEs and honeyville are the best in my experience.
1/13/2010 10:22:26 PM EDT
[#10]
Thanks for those detailed responses Chief ^^. I have been pretty slack in prepping but ever since the wife saw the History channel thing she is all over my ass. Hell she went upstairs and asked me where the rest of my bullets were, I said (shamefully) that is all I have. She told me to get more bullets and more food. Truthfully I am excited but things are tough till she gets out of school.