Posted: 2/8/2012 10:37:17 AM EDT
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Been working on my food plot clearing trees and brush to double the size looks great but my be a little to open now. Took a loader bucket half full of corn and dumped it by my cam and the deer are hitting it and the winter wheat hard. Plan is to plow it up this spring and plant soybeans than plant rye in the fall. I would love to find a shed in it again this year. the one I found 2 years ago was just a little one but really made me smile. Same year I did find a big one in the creek about 80y away but it was chewed.
sucky pics but you can tell how much the size has growen buy the wheat 
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| the last lease had... found good trails, took one of them thar walk behind tillers, an few places just took a rake, depending how soft the soil... off ta the side of trails, worked up ground, used throw & grow also the winter rye or wheat an then worked it into soil... put few corn feeder's out, place already had good acorn crop... seen plenty of deer every year.... deer had plenty of veriaty... now a days ya can buy equipment for atv's..... |
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Looks like you have made some nice improvements to it!
I love spending time improving the deer hunting on my properties year round....it is a great way to extend the season and makes it more rewarding when you slip and arrow or a bullet in behind the shoulder of one 
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Lee Lakosky has around 3000 acres with hundreds of acres of food plots with feeders/trail cams all over the place. If he and his bimbo wife dont shoot a booner every year they should be ashamed. I would call that border line fair chase at best. NOT a well liked person in SE Iowa.<rant mode off>
My plot has flooded a lot in the last few years killed most of the beautiful stand of clover I had so been going with this rotation. Its very cost effective and the deer just love it. The year I found the little shed really made me feel good about all the work I put it. |
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Lee Lakosky has around 3000 acres with hundreds of acres of food plots with feeders/trail cams all over the place. If he and his bimbo wife dont shoot a booner every year they should be ashamed. I would call that border line fair chase at best. NOT a well liked person in SE Iowa.<rant mode off> My plot has flooded a lot in the last few years killed most of the beautiful stand of clover I had so been going with this rotation. Its very cost effective and the deer just love it. The year I found the little shed really made me feel good about all the work I put it. Your place looks awesome. You should be proud.
Legel means of hunting are just that, legal. Food supplement is ok for you, but not the Lakosky's? I'm not sure I understand why you ranted on it. |
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After some experimentation I now use nothing but Imperial Whitetail Clover. Worth the $$. Your plot looks great to me. they show that on t.v. stuf tis supose ta work... u working land up with your atv?  No––I have a small farm, so I have accumulated all the tools to do a nice job. I have an old tractor (Allis Chalmers WD-45), three plows, four disks, drag harrow, two bush hogs, etc. As of next week I will even have a nice 9' cultipacker. I do use an ATV-mounted fertilizer flinger. I have a large one for the tractor too, but I've never used it. Hitting farm auctions will get you stuff like that––in this case for $30, when they sell for $600 new. I mostly just use a shoulder-mounted seed flinger with a hand crank. The new ATV tools are nice, but they are expensive enough ($3000+ from what I've seen) to allow the purchase of all the above stuff, with money left over for fertilizer and lime. 
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Lee Lakosky has around 3000 acres with hundreds of acres of food plots with feeders/trail cams all over the place. If he and his bimbo wife dont shoot a booner every year they should be ashamed. I would call that border line fair chase at best. NOT a well liked person in SE Iowa.<rant mode off> My plot has flooded a lot in the last few years killed most of the beautiful stand of clover I had so been going with this rotation. Its very cost effective and the deer just love it. The year I found the little shed really made me feel good about all the work I put it. Your place looks awesome. You should be proud.
Legel means of hunting are just that, legal. Food supplement is ok for you, but not the Lakosky's? I'm not sure I understand why you ranted on it. Sorry for the rant the sound of their name makes my skin crawl This is for the wildlife and fun I dont even hunt over it legal is legal but how much before you start thinking this is not fair chase ? Watched an elkhunting show where Realtree was after a certain bull used a plane to spot it in waited how ever many hours to be called "FAIR CHASE" and shot it the next day. Back on track I have a small 3 pt field cultivator I use if I can get to it with the tractor but do keep a home built atv cultivator there and use the atv to spray roundup. What I really need is a cultipacker but small old farm equipment is no longer cheap everyone wants it for the same reason I do. |
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My plot has flooded a lot in the last few years killed most of the beautiful stand of clover I had so been going with this rotation. Its very cost effective and the deer just love it. The year I found the little shed really made me feel good about all the work I put it. cost effetive-deer love it-found a shed- U feel good about all the work u put in it sounds like sucsess ta me... |
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We have a small place in NE MO. ( Not to far from another members place). I must admit that I tried quite a few diffrent "Miracle stuff" on the market over the years. Have used ATVs with "improvised stuff", actual ATV implements, and Tractors and Implements. Unfortunately, we are not able to properly maintain our plots year round, do to distance from camp. However, the one thing that I have found is........ We are very fortunate. Our entire property is wooded, and surrounded by large agricultural tracts. We do try to keep our trails cut, and drag a harrow behind the tractor to "rough up" the ground. Then come back with clover and spread. If it comes up GREAT. Find a farmer and buy your seed from them, when they buy in Bulk for their planting season. You will save $$$$$$$$$ You have to plant something different from what the nieghbors are planting. If your surrounding nieghbors are all planting corn, plant soybeans. Also look at planting chufla, mixed (strip planting) with other food plot plantings. Turkeys love it also. If you have bottom land that gets flooded, look at planting Alfalfa, and chufla. Alfalfa will pull deer in, and chufla is great for ducks. Don't discount planting strips of Turnips surrounding whatever you plant. Deer love the tops, usually comes in right around early Nov. and seeds are cheap. Make sure that plots are properly PH balanced, or no matter what, it will all be for nothing. |
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We have a small place in NE MO. ( Not to far from another members place). I must admit that I tried quite a few diffrent "Miracle stuff" on the market over the years. Have used ATVs with "improvised stuff", actual ATV implements, and Tractors and Implements. Unfortunately, we are not able to properly maintain our plots year round, do to distance from camp. However, the one thing that I have found is........ We are very fortunate. Our entire property is wooded, and surrounded by large agricultural tracts. We do try to keep our trails cut, and drag a harrow behind the tractor to "rough up" the ground. Then come back with clover and spread. If it comes up GREAT. Find a farmer and buy your seed from them, when they buy in Bulk for their planting season. You will save $$$$$$$$$ You have to plant something different from what the nieghbors are planting. If your surrounding nieghbors are all planting corn, plant soybeans. Also look at planting chufla, mixed (strip planting) with other food plot plantings. Turkeys love it also. If you have bottom land that gets flooded, look at planting Alfalfa, and chufla. Alfalfa will pull deer in, and chufla is great for ducks. Don't discount planting strips of Turnips surrounding whatever you plant. Deer love the tops, usually comes in right around early Nov. and seeds are cheap. Make sure that plots are properly PH balanced, or no matter what, it will all be for nothing. I know you like flat land, SW. The spot light with no hills lets you see them further away. 
But I'll say you are right about the turnips bringing in deer. We didn't plant them this year and we didn't have near the deer on my place we've had when we did plant the turnips. |
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Quoted: No need for a spot light. Just sit on front porch swing, and wait.Quoted: SNIP I know you like flat land, SW. The spot light with no hills lets you see them further away. But I'll say you are right about the turnips bringing in deer. We didn't plant them this year and we didn't have near the deer on my place we've had when we did plant the turnips. Better yet, stay in my bed in the loft, slide window open and stick gun barrel out window, BANG! (amazing what can do with a cabin tucked into the woods). I have also been told that some plant sugar beets. We have not done so, but have considered doing it on the fringes of the trails, old logging roads, and edge of surrounding fields. I like having the turnips. When ready to leave, I go dig up some that haven't been destroyed by the deer, coons, skunks, etc.... and take home. I like raw turnips, (eat like an apple). Will eat them cooked every now and then. If going to eat cooked, I prefer them mixed in with some collard greens, or turnip greens, or mustard greens. As a side dish with corned beef and cabbage. add some pickled beets, Makes for a wonderful night in a hunting camp. Especially if have 10 or more in camp. |
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SNIP I know you like flat land, SW. The spot light with no hills lets you see them further away.
But I'll say you are right about the turnips bringing in deer. We didn't plant them this year and we didn't have near the deer on my place we've had when we did plant the turnips. Or in the truck with the window rolled down. Added a little in blue for you there buddy. 
Seriously, one thing I do know about SW, I know the man does know his whitetail and turkey hunting! I listen every time he is giving serious advice. The only problem is, sometimes you can't tell if he is or not. 
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I am no expert. I just wasted A LOT of $$$$ gaining the knowledge I have. As the saying goes.... "there is one born every minute". I have been blessed that many "old' timers" have taken me under thier wing. They killed a lot of critters before all this high dollar new dangled must have hunting stuff came out. ETA: I forgot to add.... I have no issues with young, old or handicapped sitting in a truck (parked on property they own/lease/have permission to use) hunting. I however do not agree with the use of motor vehicles to harass/ round up/ drive animals to an ambush point. |
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I am no expert. I just wasted A LOT of $$$$ gaining the knowledge I have. As the saying goes.... "there is one born every minute". I have been blessed that many "old' timers" have taken me under thier wing. They killed a lot of critters before all this high dollar new dangled must have hunting stuff came out. and people need to wisen up the more money people like realtree make the more land they take away from normal people |
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Quoted: Quoted: I am no expert. I just wasted A LOT of $$$$ gaining the knowledge I have. As the saying goes.... "there is one born every minute". I have been blessed that many "old' timers" have taken me under thier wing. They killed a lot of critters before all this high dollar new dangled must have hunting stuff came out. and people need to wisen up the more money people like realtree make the more land they take away from normal people Unfortunately, our sport is going to once again become the sport of "kings". Because the little guy simply can't afford it. Add to that, the rediculous cost of licenses etc...... You have to pay for the privilege ....... Anyway, sorry for distracting from your thread.
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I am no expert. I just wasted A LOT of $$$$ gaining the knowledge I have. As the saying goes.... "there is one born every minute". I have been blessed that many "old' timers" have taken me under thier wing. They killed a lot of critters before all this high dollar new dangled must have hunting stuff came out. and people need to wisen up the more money people like realtree make the more land they take away from normal people Unfortunately, our sport is going to once again become the sport of "kings". Because the little guy simply can't afford it. Add to that, the rediculous cost of licenses etc...... You have to pay for the privilege ....... Anyway, sorry for distracting from your thread. Its getting really bad in my area with rich out of staters outfiters and the like buying/leasing up all the ground. I know people that have gave up deerhunting because they lost all their spots One guy I know helped a well know celebrity bow hunter that had a tag but no place to hunt got him permission to hunt on one of his spots (DUMBASS move) and he killed a big buck on camera did he get thanked for his help? Hell no the douchebag went up to the land owner and offered him a bunch of cash to lease the spot and got it. |
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Quoted: Same thing is happening in our area that we hunt.Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Snip Snip Snip Its getting really bad in my area with rich out of staters outfiters and the like buying/leasing up all the ground. I know people that have gave up deerhunting because they lost all their spots One guy I know helped a well know celebrity bow hunter that had a tag but no place to hunt got him permission to hunt on one of his spots (DUMBASS move) and he killed a big buck on camera did he get thanked for his help? Hell no the douchebag went up to the land owner and offered him a bunch of cash to lease the spot and got it. 25-30 years ago, I could just about hunt anywhere I wanted. Drive down road and see a nice one out and about. No problem. Pull in, meander down into the woods and hunt. I never tore up/rutted up fields. If it meant I had to walk in 1/2 mile, so be it. Then outfitters started coming in, lost thousands of acres I previously had access to. I understood, I mean an outfitter is going to come in and pay a farmer an extra 25-30k for access to all of his property for 4 months. Farmer looks at, and thinks new truck, boat, camper, car for the wife. Why not? Was letting someone do it for free anyway. The days of "old style hunting camps" are fading. Our camp is a family camp with friends invited. At one time we used to have 25+ family members/friends in camp. The past 2 years, we have had 4 generations in camp (13 yr old- 87 yr old). Simply amazing. I have not killed a Buck in 4-5 years on our place. Not that I couldn't, just not what I was looking for. I do usually take 3-4 doe each year to fill the freezer. We took 3 very mature 8pts off our place this year.( 2 of them were killed by the youngsters). They would be respectful deer for anyone, but were TROPHIES for the 13 and 15 yr olds. We saw some others that qualified under MO. 4pt rule also. They got a pass. I never did get the big 10pt I was after patterned. My buddy said he saw him during muzzleloader but never got a shot. He then took his daughter up for 2nd season youth. And she hammered a great 9pt, 25 yards from the cabin with a Rossi single shot in .223. 1 shot, went 10 yards stumbling and then DRT. Found out some property adjacent to one of our tracts came up for sale and was snatched up by some ball players from St. Louis. Can't compete with outfitters and ball players. I imagine my days of deer hunting are winding down. Just getting to be to much $$$$ . After all cost are factored in. It cost me easily $1500 to hunt our own place after gas, license, food, processing, cabin ins, taxes, up keep, etc.... |
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People are cut throats when it comes to hunting and fishing.
That smooth talking likable bubba will stick it in your ass if you give him the opportunity. It's all about the money when it comes to deer hunting. When you get the dozens of promoters like Bill Jordan involved, the American tradition of hunting is going to become one for only the well off. I can tell some stories about outfitters that are proof positive they prefer runny chicken shit for breakfast. And places like Cabelas and Bass Pro promote it to boot. Things are changing in this country so rapidly it scares me.
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We all know that most stats show hunting is a dying sport despite all the TV shows etc.
The line being pushed on all these shows is take a kid or a female hunting, but like so many others have said where do you take them as private land access evaporates and most public land hunting is the pits do to over hunting. I live in an area where all of the long time neighbors are in there late 70's or older and will soon either stop hunting due to physical issues or will pass on and their kids do not hunt. So most likely the land will be sold off to either the City of NY or to downstate people which will forever change the land scape and thus the hunting oppurtunities. The city of NY in their efforts to buy up all of the land around the city watershed has driven up the prices to the point of being unaffordable to all but the wealthy. Sucks but it is what it is. |
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We all know that most stats show hunting is a dying sport despite all the TV shows etc. The line being pushed on all these shows is take a kid or a female hunting, but like so many others have said where do you take them as private land access evaporates and most public land hunting is the pits do to over hunting. I live in an area where all of the long time neighbors are in there late 70's or older and will soon either stop hunting due to physical issues or will pass on and their kids do not hunt. So most likely the land will be sold off to either the City of NY or to downstate people which will forever change the land scape and thus the hunting oppurtunities. The city of NY in their efforts to buy up all of the land around the city watershed has driven up the prices to the point of being unaffordable to all but the wealthy. Sucks but it is what it is. We made some friends up in Vermont while leaf peeping in the 2007. The husband is 85 or so and still likes to hunt. He said so much land in Vermont is being bought up by New Yorkers it is almost impossible to find a place to hunt. 
Last year because of being good to a young man (nothing to do with hunting) he stabbed me in the back and got the sole rights to hunt a place I've been hunting for almost 20 years. I have no idea of what he told the land owner but she told us she preferred we didn't hunt there anymore. My boys and I had been the only ones to hunt her 640 acres for the last 20 years. She is going to have a cow when she finds out he is booking deer hunts for next season already. She finds out he is making money off of her generosity (she gave him a signed lease for $1) she will come unglued. The next person who gets a signed lease will pay several thousand dollars for the privilege that we had for free. That's not too uncommon in Oklahoma anymore. It's about money and not the sport. I've heard ranchers and farmers griping about wild hogs tearing up their winter wheat. Talk to them about hunting them and they'll ask "How much are willing to pay?". Then they scream at the Oklahoma Department of Wildlife Conservation about the hogs over running their property. Then we have game rangers, on the tax payers' dime, acting as leasing agents, buy and selling hunting leases. Yep, it's about the money and not the sport. 
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Quoted: A farmer a buddie used to hunt on leased his land then was pissed that the only thing taken by the outfitter was couple buck I hope the deer eat every kernal of corn on the whole damn farm this year.We went through that years ago. Had access to land, then along came the outfitters. They kept it off limits and only allowed "trophy" bucks to be taken. (penalty if got shooting under certain points). Several hundred acres, and only a few select bucks were being killed. Farmer complained deer were eating everything. I was hunting an adjacent property, and I was within 10 yards of property line. After 2 hours I hear an atv coming through the field. Pulls within 50 yards, I wave and guy says something. I get up and start walking because I couldn't hear. Get close to the guy, and I ask if I am Over the line. He tells me no, I am ok. Tell him I was just looking to kill some doe for the freezer before my leave ended. He then tells me to go anywhere on his place to kill doe. Keep in mind this guy has always been nasty and not allowed anyone on his place, even if a wounded deer went on his place and you just wanted to recover it. I told my dad and he could not believe it. Other locals told us that the deer were destroying his crops, there would be herds (in the 100s) out in his fields. I never did go on his place, but he is one of those that no longer leases his place out. Seems outfitters thought they owned the place instead of leased. ( drove through fields, cut trees, etc....) ANYWAY......... So what is the update on your endeavors? Only about a month until turkey season , right? |
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Quoted: You are going to give people the wrong idea about me.Quoted: .....ANYWAY......... So what is the update on your endeavors? Only about a month until turkey season , right? Trying to locate several roosts early? Got that flashlight taped to your shotgun barrel already?  Besides...... I don't need a flashlight. I have night vision devices. HaHa! |
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Quoted: Record or near record highs all week my winter wheat is looking great Im going to leave it as long as I can then plow in up and plant some RR soybeans. I havent checked my trail cam in a couple weeks BUT lots of tracks coming and going. What is plan for the summer/ early fall crop planting? Supplemental plantings? Any plans for protein pellets during July, August, September ?
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Record or near record highs all week my winter wheat is looking great Im going to leave it as long as I can then plow in up and plant some RR soybeans. I havent checked my trail cam in a couple weeks BUT lots of tracks coming and going. What is plan for the summer/ early fall crop planting? Supplemental plantings? Any plans for protein pellets during July, August, September ?
What water sources do you have on your place? They will have soybeans to eat on till about mid september than I'll tear it up to put it in winter rye. Its in the horseshoe of a small creek with a large creek 200y away. Nice secluded spot but prone to flooding. Also have a mineral feeder there and have a home made corn feeder I keep there in the winter months |
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Keep us posted. Pics of progression, changes, etc... A little improvements as you go along, have big payouts. Not sure what you use for mineral sites, but plain old salt blocks are hard to beat. With that said.... I tried numerous "magic stuff" , and the 2 that have done the best for us are. Trophy Rock and Lucky Buck. They both can be quite pricey to keep up with, but I have seen deer come across fields headed on a direct path to hit the site. I experimented a couple of years by placing multiple spots of different brands out. Those 2 , hands down get the most attention on our place. One of the Lucky Buck sites they have dug it out 5 feet wide by 3 feet deep. DO NOT place within 5 feet of a trail you walk. It will become a "broken ankle trap" after they get done. |
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.....ANYWAY......... So what is the update on your endeavors? Only about a month until turkey season , right? Trying to locate several roosts early?
Got that flashlight taped to your shotgun barrel already?
Besides...... I don't need a flashlight. I have night vision devices. HaHa! 
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