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as long as starlink was working it would be normal. We live in our retreat full time in the mountains. close / not close to a Very small town. Some of the vacation cabins may now have occupancy but other than that not much change here if things go that way. |
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I see in the news Oran is being accused of using chemical weapons on the protesters a burned a shitload of them in a bazaar after surrendering. Were being set up to to into Iran. WMD’s as a precursor… |
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Originally Posted By TheOtherDave: I see in the news Oran is being accused of using chemical weapons on the protesters a burned a shitload of them in a bazaar after surrendering. Were being set up to to into Iran. WMD’s as a precursor… Agreed. The only good thing, if we act on Iran, is China and Russia will get the message globally; not only can we get shit done in our hemisphere, where we plucked the leader out of our enemies friend in Venezuela cleanly and are taking their ships, etc. Maybe that will keep things in check until we can make chips and more here domestically. Certainly not that simple, but would like to think so. |
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Originally Posted By TheOtherDave: I see in the news Oran is being accused of using chemical weapons on the protesters a burned a shitload of them in a bazaar after surrendering. Were being set up to to into Iran. WMD’s as a precursor… Iran has been a major problem for many years. Iraq wouldn’t have been as bad if Iran hadn’t been supplying things such as EFP IEDs and more. Iran is a major player in almost all the problems in the Middle East. On the other hand….look at what Israel did to them over 12 days. It was like watching Mike Tyson beat up a midget. If the US were to decide to actually invade Iran just like we did to Iraq….it would be a bloodbath….for the Iranians. But, we aren’t. We probably should have seized the opportunity to support the protestors by annihilating the military but then what comes after? We’d like to see the current regime go but we don’t want it to be replaced with something worse. Also, a lot of regional countries, who also hate Iran, apparently told us they didn’t want us to do it. And, did we have enough assets in place? Probably not. Remember, warfighting, while important….doesnt win wars. Logistics does. Beans, bullets, and bandaids. If those aren’t ready to go, we don’t go. |
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I wonder if anything in this video is true-just came across my feed:![]() The U.S. Already Rehearsed an Iran Strike — Nobody Noticed |
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Originally Posted By ColtRifle: Spook investors? Stock market is at all time highs and going higher. That’s not spooked investors. That’s excited investors. I do not agree. I believe it is because of both average and wealthy people putting their money in what is a historically easy way to grow their money compared to inflation. People are frightened of inflation and losing their purchasing power, and so they are investing in stocks because it is a historical way to beat inflation. It also takes no thought to invest in a mutual fund, and as long as the growth continues, it seems like a win to them. So they continue doing what has worked in the past. How many people want the trouble of investing in real estate or rentals when they saw the Govt just abuse the landlords over Covid a few years ago? How many people have the time or desire to invest in their own start up business? What to do with all the money they are earning? There was a lot of money printed over the last few years. What better place to stick it for many people who have collected it than the stock market? And so, the indexes continue to rise - for now. |
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Originally Posted By lumper: I do not agree. I believe it is because of both average and wealthy people putting their money in what is a historically easy way to grow their money compared to inflation. People are frightened of inflation and losing their purchasing power, and so they are investing in stocks because it is a historical way to beat inflation. It also takes no thought to invest in a mutual fund, and as long as the growth continues, it seems like a win to them. So they continue doing what has worked in the past. How many people want the trouble of investing in real estate or rentals when they saw the Govt just abuse the landlords over Covid a few years ago? How many people have the time or desire to invest in their own start up business? What to do with all the money they are earning? There was a lot of money printed over the last few years. What better place to stick it for many people who have collected it than the stock market? And so, the indexes continue to rise - for now. You said the markets continue to rise “for now”. What do you think causes the markets to fall? I’m assuming you mean a major drop not the normal rise and fall of natural bull and bear markets. If I’m mistaken feel free to correct me. Do you have any investments in the market? If you do, I’m not asking how much you have invested as that doesn’t matter. If not…why not? What is your prediction for the market in the next year, 2 years, 5 years or however long you wish to predict. I realize it’s just a guess and no one knows what the future holds. But, all decisions we make (not just money decisions) are based on (hopefully) educated guesses on what we think will happen. So, it appears to me you have put some thought and presumably research into it. What’s your educated guess? |
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If you’re a prepper, be thankful for Trump. He’s going to delay most catastrophic scenarios while he’s in office. With him seeming (or being) bombastically unhinged keeps enemies paralyzed in their execution plans. Originally Posted By TheOtherDave: I think Ukraine gave China an “ohhh…” moment about Taiwan and made them go home and sharpen their pencils a bit. I believe that internally Taiwan is off the table for the Chinese We are still focused on 2027 from strategic planning. I think as long as Trump is in office, that gets deferred…if not, expect disruptions within the homeland (see below for DOOM estimates). Again, I think the current climate and geopolitical environment is going to delay this for a few years. My advice, whittle away at debt, purchase smart hard assets, enjoy our improving economy, and focus on your mental and physical fitness. I do have some domestic concerns, but that’s a political fight with mobilized fanatics…avoid Democrat run cities, if you can’t find out if there are any planned protests and avoid those areas. Keep your head on a swivel when traveling, maintain OPSEC, and keep a low profile. Sure, I like Trump, but I’m not wearing a MAGA hat in downtown Atlanta on a weekend. Originally Posted By Redman556: Whatever war may happen, it's not coming here. Nobody has the naval or aerial forces to get here. Nobody can get troops here. Period. It’s already here. It’s not “hot” yet, but it’s definitely Luke-warm. We have so many foreign adversarial organizations on our soil it would blow you mind. 53 Mexican consulates supporting pro-immigration protests and anti-ICE activities. China has their communist “Confucious Institutes” imbedded in dozens of universities and over 50 operating through the US spreading the love of communism (and organizing protests). ICE protests are not organic. Antifa is still well organized and funded. If something “happens” in your community, expect them to get mobilized and saturate your area. If China goes after Tiawan, domestic hell will break loose. The Chinese are imbedded and positioned to impact various electric grids, transportation assets, economic centers, Internet and mobile networks, and other defense critical infrastructure. They’re already here and the heat map I saw would make your jaw drop. Iran is just an opportunity to change their trajectory as a nations state sponsor of terrorism. We won't need conventional boots on ground, there's a lot of ways we can help influence them in the right direction... I work with the DoD in cybersecurity. Our area would be a target considering the three-letter agency we work with. If not, I would probably work as normal but as a contractor these days, if it heats up too much, I can just quit and go hunker down at home. My personal fear is significant scope and scale of domestic disruptions that the government is forced to mobilize a massive lockdown to find/defeat the threats and recover. Switch the political party in government and it becomes Apocalyptic. It won’t happen overnight, but it will be a fast transition like Covid where the Constitution takes a back seat and if the wrong government is in charge, their perception of the “enemy” will look a lot like you and me. What will most likely happen is attention taken from federate, state, county, and maybe even most of your local PD and emergency services. You’re last on the list for assistance and I expect crime and local threats to escalate. On the brighter side, I have a lot of home projects I could get done with some time off! ROCK6 |
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Originally Posted By ROCK6: (1) If you’re a prepper, be thankful for Trump. He’s going to delay most catastrophic scenarios while he’s in office. With him seeming (or being) bombastically unhinged keeps enemies paralyzed in their execution plans. (2) We are still focused on 2027 from strategic planning. I think as long as Trump is in office, that gets deferred…if not, expect disruptions within the homeland (see below for DOOM estimates). Again, I think the current climate and geopolitical environment is going to delay this for a few years. My advice, whittle away at debt, purchase smart hard assets, enjoy our improving economy, and focus on your mental and physical fitness. I do have some domestic concerns, but that’s a political fight with mobilized fanatics…avoid Democrat run cities, if you can’t find out if there are any planned protests and avoid those areas. Keep your head on a swivel when traveling, maintain OPSEC, and keep a low profile. Sure, I like Trump, but I’m not wearing a MAGA hat in downtown Atlanta on a weekend. (3) It’s already here. It’s not “hot” yet, but it’s definitely Luke-warm. We have so many foreign adversarial organizations on our soil it would blow you mind. 53 Mexican consulates supporting pro-immigration protests and anti-ICE activities. China has their communist “Confucious Institutes” imbedded in dozens of universities and over 50 operating through the US spreading the love of communism (and organizing protests). ICE protests are not organic. Antifa is still well organized and funded. If something “happens” in your community, expect them to get mobilized and saturate your area. (4) If China goes after Tiawan, domestic hell will break loose. The Chinese are imbedded and positioned to impact various electric grids, transportation assets, economic centers, Internet and mobile networks, and other defense critical infrastructure. They’re already here and the heat map I saw would make your jaw drop. (5) Iran is just an opportunity to change their trajectory as a nations state sponsor of terrorism. We won't need conventional boots on ground, there's a lot of ways we can help influence them in the right direction... (6) I work with the DoD in cybersecurity. Our area would be a target considering the three-letter agency we work with. If not, I would probably work as normal but as a contractor these days, if it heats up too much, I can just quit and go hunker down at home. (7) My personal fear is significant scope and scale of domestic disruptions that the government is forced to mobilize a massive lockdown to find/defeat the threats and recover. Switch the political party in government and it becomes Apocalyptic. It won’t happen overnight, but it will be a fast transition like Covid where the Constitution takes a back seat and if the wrong government is in charge, their perception of the “enemy” will look a lot like you and me. (8) What will most likely happen is attention taken from federate, state, county, and maybe even most of your local PD and emergency services. You’re last on the list for assistance and I expect crime and local threats to escalate. On the brighter side, I have a lot of home projects I could get done with some time off! ROCK6 To point (2): I believe the previous administration was somewhere between compliant and helpful to China's plans. Agreed, Trump isn't playing along. (3) For a long time I've wondered why adversaries don't attack our infrastructure. There have been small scale attacks that look like trial runs. The targets are so soft, the absence of attacks is notable. I believe (2) is the reason, we paid organizations to provide a boogy man but not make actual attacks on US soil. Trump's belligerence may change that, and I don't think that's a bad thing. Paying extortion for perceived safety is no better than direct, decisive conflict. Refer to Venezuela. (4) I heard a presentation by an FBI agent stating that electric utilities are being very careful about hiring. They certainly won't (or shouldn't) hire Chinese nationals. Or even US citizens of Chinese descent, because China will go after those people's families to compel them to conduct sabotage. It makes for uncomfortable hiring discussions when otherwise qualified candidates are passed over. (6) What's your DPAS rating? I work with manufacturers who build both commercial and DOD equipment. They work under DPAS which provides for government to compel them to prioritize DOD work, if it is deemed vital to national security. I don't know the last time that was invoked but a hot peer-peer war would likely meet the criteria. If it happens, it could create more supply chain issues as commercial products become scarce. (7) and (8) During covid and the summer of love I suspected that government was looking for an excuse to implement martial law, but it never happened. Given the hundreds of executive orders Jay Inslee issued in WA, exceeding his powers by a wide margin, I believe it was a trial run for how far they could push the system. And there are reports of intel suggesting terror groups' current operational plans consist of mass casualty events, secondary explosive devices to wound responders, and fake responders to sow chaos in the aftermath. All these things will not happen in a hot peer-peer war. And other unanticipated things will. It will be messy. |
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Originally Posted By ROCK6: If you’re a prepper, be thankful for Trump. He’s going to delay most catastrophic scenarios while he’s in office. With him seeming (or being) bombastically unhinged keeps enemies paralyzed in their execution plans. We are still focused on 2027 from strategic planning. I think as long as Trump is in office, that gets deferred…if not, expect disruptions within the homeland (see below for DOOM estimates). Again, I think the current climate and geopolitical environment is going to delay this for a few years. My advice, whittle away at debt, purchase smart hard assets, enjoy our improving economy, and focus on your mental and physical fitness. I do have some domestic concerns, but that’s a political fight with mobilized fanatics…avoid Democrat run cities, if you can’t find out if there are any planned protests and avoid those areas. Keep your head on a swivel when traveling, maintain OPSEC, and keep a low profile. Sure, I like Trump, but I’m not wearing a MAGA hat in downtown Atlanta on a weekend. It’s already here. It’s not “hot” yet, but it’s definitely Luke-warm. We have so many foreign adversarial organizations on our soil it would blow you mind. 53 Mexican consulates supporting pro-immigration protests and anti-ICE activities. China has their communist “Confucious Institutes” imbedded in dozens of universities and over 50 operating through the US spreading the love of communism (and organizing protests). ICE protests are not organic. Antifa is still well organized and funded. If something “happens” in your community, expect them to get mobilized and saturate your area. If China goes after Tiawan, domestic hell will break loose. The Chinese are imbedded and positioned to impact various electric grids, transportation assets, economic centers, Internet and mobile networks, and other defense critical infrastructure. They’re already here and the heat map I saw would make your jaw drop. Iran is just an opportunity to change their trajectory as a nations state sponsor of terrorism. We won't need conventional boots on ground, there's a lot of ways we can help influence them in the right direction... I work with the DoD in cybersecurity. Our area would be a target considering the three-letter agency we work with. If not, I would probably work as normal but as a contractor these days, if it heats up too much, I can just quit and go hunker down at home. My personal fear is significant scope and scale of domestic disruptions that the government is forced to mobilize a massive lockdown to find/defeat the threats and recover. Switch the political party in government and it becomes Apocalyptic. It won’t happen overnight, but it will be a fast transition like Covid where the Constitution takes a back seat and if the wrong government is in charge, their perception of the “enemy” will look a lot like you and me. What will most likely happen is attention taken from federate, state, county, and maybe even most of your local PD and emergency services. You’re last on the list for assistance and I expect crime and local threats to escalate. On the brighter side, I have a lot of home projects I could get done with some time off! ROCK6 Well said. |
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Originally Posted By Daggertt: I swear, some of you guys need to... as the kids say... "Touch some grass." Put down the phone, turn off the TV, disconnect from the MSM/twitter doom and gloom for a couple weeks. Stay out of GD. The world isn't about to explode. Everyone in the 24 hour news cycle is going for clicks so the drama is cranked up to 11. We've been closer to catastrophe than we are today. Might there be a civil war soon? Sure but if the current political polarization turns kinetic, we're looking at the Irish troubles more than Serbia or the US civil war. Small, sporadic bouts of violence that don't impact the day to day of most people unless you are unlucky enough to get caught in the crossfire. No one is going to invade us. The markets aren't going to fall apart. Life isn't going to substantially change any time soon. I mean how many of these Y2K, nuclear war doomsday, global pandemic, recession/housing market crash impending doom scenarios do we have to live through before we learn that life just keeps moving? Even when something actually happens, it's never as bad as everyone said it would be and life just continues. Maybe we wear face diapers for a couple years, and yeah SOME people end up having a really hard time but overall, the population as a whole just carries on. So prep the stuff you're going to prep, which can be guns, food, or an emergency fund, etc and then be ready to adapt and just ride out the rest. And in the meantime, enjoy your life while the sailing is smooth. The likelihood of a catastrophic event are low despite how scary such events seem. It's a trick our brains play on us where they dramatically increase the perceived likelihood of events that are scarier. So people are scared of shark attacks but not driving on the freeway to get to the beach despite the statistics being clear on which is more likely to kill you. You can't live your life under the weight of existential dread. This^^^^^^^^^^ Just relax. I’ve heard these end of the world scenarios my whole 65 years. The worst that could happen is I’ll be dead. ![]() Live your life. |
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Originally Posted By ROCK6: If you’re a prepper, be thankful for Trump. He’s going to delay most catastrophic scenarios while he’s in office. With him seeming (or being) bombastically unhinged keeps enemies paralyzed in their execution plans. We are still focused on 2027 from strategic planning. I think as long as Trump is in office, that gets deferred…if not, expect disruptions within the homeland (see below for DOOM estimates). Again, I think the current climate and geopolitical environment is going to delay this for a few years. My advice, whittle away at debt, purchase smart hard assets, enjoy our improving economy, and focus on your mental and physical fitness. I do have some domestic concerns, but that’s a political fight with mobilized fanatics…avoid Democrat run cities, if you can’t find out if there are any planned protests and avoid those areas. Keep your head on a swivel when traveling, maintain OPSEC, and keep a low profile. Sure, I like Trump, but I’m not wearing a MAGA hat in downtown Atlanta on a weekend. It’s already here. It’s not “hot” yet, but it’s definitely Luke-warm. We have so many foreign adversarial organizations on our soil it would blow you mind. 53 Mexican consulates supporting pro-immigration protests and anti-ICE activities. China has their communist “Confucious Institutes” imbedded in dozens of universities and over 50 operating through the US spreading the love of communism (and organizing protests). ICE protests are not organic. Antifa is still well organized and funded. If something “happens” in your community, expect them to get mobilized and saturate your area. If China goes after Tiawan, domestic hell will break loose. The Chinese are imbedded and positioned to impact various electric grids, transportation assets, economic centers, Internet and mobile networks, and other defense critical infrastructure. They’re already here and the heat map I saw would make your jaw drop. Iran is just an opportunity to change their trajectory as a nations state sponsor of terrorism. We won't need conventional boots on ground, there's a lot of ways we can help influence them in the right direction... I work with the DoD in cybersecurity. Our area would be a target considering the three-letter agency we work with. If not, I would probably work as normal but as a contractor these days, if it heats up too much, I can just quit and go hunker down at home. My personal fear is significant scope and scale of domestic disruptions that the government is forced to mobilize a massive lockdown to find/defeat the threats and recover. Switch the political party in government and it becomes Apocalyptic. It won’t happen overnight, but it will be a fast transition like Covid where the Constitution takes a back seat and if the wrong government is in charge, their perception of the “enemy” will look a lot like you and me. What will most likely happen is attention taken from federate, state, county, and maybe even most of your local PD and emergency services. You’re last on the list for assistance and I expect crime and local threats to escalate. On the brighter side, I have a lot of home projects I could get done with some time off! ROCK6 Pretty good analysis. I’m not as concerned of a Democrat elected president as you because we have lived it. Clinton, Obama, and Biden in recent memory. And we survived it. They weren’t good for America but we survived them. We will survive the next one too. Not directed at the poster I am quoting….just a general purpose comment… Don’t get too excited about military planning being proof something will actually happen. Military planners JOB is to plan worst case scenarios. We would rather go into the next war over prepared than under prepared. Military planners are a lot like preppers. They are looking for all worst case scenarios. Lots of preppers will post about the next doom and gloom situation but they rarely come true. Same or similar for military planners. Doesn’t mean military planners (or preppers) are wrong. It just means that’s their primary focus. It’s a plan, not a guarantee. One thing to remember about ALL tyrannical forms of government. The head of the government NEVER gets accurate info. Tyrannical leaders ALWAYS demand those below them tell them what they want to hear. Those below the head of state don’t want THEIR head knocked off, so they just feed the head of state bullshit. The bullshit makes the head of state happy, and everyone is happy. Until war breaks out and they get crushed. Now the danger there is, if they had a non tyrannical leader, they would tell him (or her) “we can’t take on the US given our abilities”. A tyrant gets fed a line of bullshit and decides to take action that a non tyrannical leader never would have done even if they had the same end goals. They still get crushed but sometimes a tyrannical leader increases the risk of war, not that they would have ever succeeded, but the leader’s subordinate people have blown so much smoke up his ass so he takes failing action because he’s planning using faulty information. |
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Originally Posted By heat762: Fuck Ukraine Fuck Taiwan Fuck Iran We good, thanks How about you keep this nonsense in GD? Then we will be good here. Thanks |
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Originally Posted By Daggertt: I swear, some of you guys need to... as the kids say... "Touch some grass." Put down the phone, turn off the TV, disconnect from the MSM/twitter doom and gloom for a couple weeks. Stay out of GD. The world isn't about to explode. Everyone in the 24 hour news cycle is going for clicks so the drama is cranked up to 11. We've been closer to catastrophe than we are today. Might there be a civil war soon? Sure but if the current political polarization turns kinetic, we're looking at the Irish troubles more than Serbia or the US civil war. Small, sporadic bouts of violence that don't impact the day to day of most people unless you are unlucky enough to get caught in the crossfire. No one is going to invade us. The markets aren't going to fall apart. Life isn't going to substantially change any time soon. I mean how many of these Y2K, nuclear war doomsday, global pandemic, recession/housing market crash impending doom scenarios do we have to live through before we learn that life just keeps moving? Even when something actually happens, it's never as bad as everyone said it would be and life just continues. Maybe we wear face diapers for a couple years, and yeah SOME people end up having a really hard time but overall, the population as a whole just carries on. So prep the stuff you're going to prep, which can be guns, food, or an emergency fund, etc and then be ready to adapt and just ride out the rest. And in the meantime, enjoy your life while the sailing is smooth. The likelihood of a catastrophic event are low despite how scary such events seem. It's a trick our brains play on us where they dramatically increase the perceived likelihood of events that are scarier. So people are scared of shark attacks but not driving on the freeway to get to the beach despite the statistics being clear on which is more likely to kill you. You can't live your life under the weight of existential dread. This should be the first post of every one of these type of threads |
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Originally Posted By JaredC1: This should be the first post of every one of these type of threads Originally Posted By JaredC1: Originally Posted By Daggertt: I swear, some of you guys need to... as the kids say... "Touch some grass." Put down the phone, turn off the TV, disconnect from the MSM/twitter doom and gloom for a couple weeks. Stay out of GD. The world isn't about to explode. Everyone in the 24 hour news cycle is going for clicks so the drama is cranked up to 11. We've been closer to catastrophe than we are today. Might there be a civil war soon? Sure but if the current political polarization turns kinetic, we're looking at the Irish troubles more than Serbia or the US civil war. Small, sporadic bouts of violence that don't impact the day to day of most people unless you are unlucky enough to get caught in the crossfire. No one is going to invade us. The markets aren't going to fall apart. Life isn't going to substantially change any time soon. I mean how many of these Y2K, nuclear war doomsday, global pandemic, recession/housing market crash impending doom scenarios do we have to live through before we learn that life just keeps moving? Even when something actually happens, it's never as bad as everyone said it would be and life just continues. Maybe we wear face diapers for a couple years, and yeah SOME people end up having a really hard time but overall, the population as a whole just carries on. So prep the stuff you're going to prep, which can be guns, food, or an emergency fund, etc and then be ready to adapt and just ride out the rest. And in the meantime, enjoy your life while the sailing is smooth. The likelihood of a catastrophic event are low despite how scary such events seem. It's a trick our brains play on us where they dramatically increase the perceived likelihood of events that are scarier. So people are scared of shark attacks but not driving on the freeway to get to the beach despite the statistics being clear on which is more likely to kill you. You can't live your life under the weight of existential dread. This should be the first post of every one of these type of threads
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I walked outside to touch the grass this morning...it was frozen Still, it's sound advice. Planning is just that. Planning for contingencies. I know this is a focus on "worse-case", but the reality is that the probability of SHTF will likely be personal and local; not necessarily global. I always tell those who get into the "hobby" of preparing is that it's a marathon, not a destination or task completion. For many, it's simply a lifestyle, but in the end, don't forget to enjoy the life we live now and don't mortgage that enjoyment for a very unpredictable future. Find that balance or you'll be really disappointed later in life.Originally Posted By TNC: (3) For a long time I've wondered why adversaries don't attack our infrastructure. There have been small scale attacks that look like trial runs. The targets are so soft, the absence of attacks is notable. I believe (2) is the reason, we paid organizations to provide a boogy man but not make actual attacks on US soil. Trump's belligerence may change that, and I don't think that's a bad thing. Paying extortion for perceived safety is no better than direct, decisive conflict. Refer to Venezuela. Originally Posted By TNC: (3) For a long time I've wondered why adversaries don't attack our infrastructure. There have been small scale attacks that look like trial runs. The targets are so soft, the absence of attacks is notable. I believe (2) is the reason, we paid organizations to provide a boogy man but not make actual attacks on US soil. Trump's belligerence may change that, and I don't think that's a bad thing. Paying extortion for perceived safety is no better than direct, decisive conflict. Refer to Venezuela. So, the prevailing think-tankers make the assumptions that if China invades Tiawan, any extended response for the US will require production, a functional supply chain, and transportation. Electric grids, military industrial bases, ports, etc. are what would be targeted to delay those efforts. Military history has proven that it takes the US about 6-9 months to ramp up for a war from a strategic perspective. That's already way too long for any future conflict... Originally Posted By TNC: All these things will not happen in a hot peer-peer war. And other unanticipated things will. It will be messy. Several strategic planners I know estimate that any future peer-to-peer war will be over in less than 30 days. That doesn't mean nukes or occupation. It means the ability to disable and destroy a country's military industrial base, supply chains, economy, banking, power-grids, key critical infrastructure, etc. would cause a government to capitulate and make concessions. Kinetic war may never even really take off, and the war will be lost. Granted, this is all strategic level discourse and hypothetical thinking, but it's what's necessary to plan for most likely to worse-case scenarios. I honestly think Trump in office will push any of China's 2027 plans into the next decade. They want Tiawan, but they can't afford to do it against a capable adversary like the US. Even Venezuela has likely scared the shit out of many nation-state enemies. So, we have some breathing room if that was any concern, that's my opinion. The only major changes I would be concerned about would be a Democrat controlled POTUS and congress in 2028 and that's more domestic than global concerns. ROCK6 |
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War is what happens when the world economy tanks. Globalization is killing our economies. As for me, I have zero debt, some physical assets including a little gold and sliver, probably a year of food, and heirloom seeds. I'm on this site so let's just save if this was the Civil War and I had to arm a regiment, I'd be a colonel. |
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I think it would shock the world what the US could do to an enemy country in a 30 day war with conventional weapons. Nobody has seen unrestricted US military capability in half a century and it seems like nobody else has paid any attention to their own doctrine, tactics, and technology for at least 30 years. Countries like China and others who were under the Soviet influence umbrella are finding out that the doctrine they were given by Russia not only wasn’t very effective when conceived but doesn’t adapt well to modern tactics and doctrine no matter how many of Russia’s and their domestic high tech weapons and electronic warfare they integrate with their militaries. It would take a top-down total teardown and rebuild of virtually every military in the world to create a near-peer adversary and take 30 years to build it out. This, of course, assumes that you could successfully keep graft and corruption out of it, which is difficult because of the ingrained cultural norms of places like Russia and China. If the conventional wisdom is anything to go by, Russia has shot its wad in Ukraine and China has a narrow window to to any expansion in their own part of the world before a demographic bomb goes off and they are unable to source enough bodies to put in uniform to achieve and hold their goals. If I were Russia, I would be very worried about Chinese invasion of their eastern border to secure oil…. |
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Originally Posted By TheOtherDave: I think it would shock the world what the US could do to an enemy country in a 30 day war with conventional weapons. Nobody has seen unrestricted US military capability in half a century and it seems like nobody else has paid any attention to their own doctrine, tactics, and technology for at least 30 years. Countries like China and others who were under the Soviet influence umbrella are finding out that the doctrine they were given by Russia not only wasn't very effective when conceived but doesn't adapt well to modern tactics and doctrine no matter how many of Russia's and their domestic high tech weapons and electronic warfare they integrate with their militaries. It would take a top-down total teardown and rebuild of virtually every military in the world to create a near-peer adversary and take 30 years to build it out. This, of course, assumes that you could successfully keep graft and corruption out of it, which is difficult because of the ingrained cultural norms of places like Russia and China. If the conventional wisdom is anything to go by, Russia has shot its wad in Ukraine and China has a narrow window to to any expansion in their own part of the world before a demographic bomb goes off and they are unable to source enough bodies to put in uniform to achieve and hold their goals. If I were Russia, I would be very worried about Chinese invasion of their eastern border to secure oil . |
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Three months from now? April, so we'd be past the worst of winter. Money is fine, food is fine, enough ammo to last out a siege Short of an asteroid landing on my head, I'm good. |
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Originally Posted By tc556guy: Three months from now? April, so we'd be past the worst of winter. Money is fine, food is fine, enough ammo to last out a siege Short of an asteroid landing on my head, I'm good. YOU have ammo left????? I find that very hard to believe. |
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Originally Posted By ColtRifle: You said the markets continue to rise “for now”. What do you think causes the markets to fall? I’m assuming you mean a major drop not the normal rise and fall of natural bull and bear markets. If I’m mistaken feel free to correct me. Do you have any investments in the market? If you do, I’m not asking how much you have invested as that doesn’t matter. If not…why not? What is your prediction for the market in the next year, 2 years, 5 years or however long you wish to predict. I realize it’s just a guess and no one knows what the future holds. But, all decisions we make (not just money decisions) are based on (hopefully) educated guesses on what we think will happen. So, it appears to me you have put some thought and presumably research into it. What’s your educated guess? I would expect the markets to fall (not limiting this to only the US markets) if there was a significant decline in the average persons faith in the US dollar as a stable means of value transfer - meaning it will hold value relative to what it is being used to purchase. I think many people worldwide (including Americans affected by inflation) feel that it is loosing that stability, and that it is only the historical tradition of using it and the US govt forcing it's use (as best as they can) that it keeping it alive. The US govt requires dollars for taxes & duties, as well as requiring employees in the US to be paid in US dollars. These are some of the ways that it's use is forced. For years oil was traded in dollars by agreement. That is no longer always the case, and the US govt is limited in it's ability to enforce that. As for investing, I do hold some mutual funds, not a lot of value there, but a limited portion of my investments - mostly in Roth tax accounts. It seems only prudent to diversify, and who really knows when something may happen. It seems overdue to me, but I have felt that way for years. I could continue to be wrong, just as I have in the past. The vast majority of my personal investments are in our home farm, our family business, and in family. The family part comes from a simple lifestyle with Mom at home raising the children and dad working. Income is limited, but family works together to make up the difference. Personally, I am not concerned about my retirement income, I hope to work with my family as long as possible, and die simply at home. I have no desire to retire so that I can travel or vacation, I still work with my parents (83 & 81) & children every day and that is enjoyable enough for me. This is the path my family has taken for generations, and I believe that even in this modern era with all of it's new ideas and fads that it is still the best option for my family. |
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Originally Posted By lumper: I would expect the markets to fall (not limiting this to only the US markets) if there was a significant decline in the average persons faith in the US dollar as a stable means of value transfer - meaning it will hold value relative to what it is being used to purchase. I think many people worldwide (including Americans affected by inflation) feel that it is loosing that stability, and that it is only the historical tradition of using it and the US govt forcing it's use (as best as they can) that it keeping it alive. The US govt requires dollars for taxes & duties, as well as requiring employees in the US to be paid in US dollars. These are some of the ways that it's use is forced. For years oil was traded in dollars by agreement. That is no longer always the case, and the US govt is limited in it's ability to enforce that. As for investing, I do hold some mutual funds, not a lot of value there, but a limited portion of my investments - mostly in Roth tax accounts. It seems only prudent to diversify, and who really knows when something may happen. It seems overdue to me, but I have felt that way for years. I could continue to be wrong, just as I have in the past. The vast majority of my personal investments are in our home farm, our family business, and in family. The family part comes from a simple lifestyle with Mom at home raising the children and dad working. Income is limited, but family works together to make up the difference. Personally, I am not concerned about my retirement income, I hope to work with my family as long as possible, and die simply at home. I have no desire to retire so that I can travel or vacation, I still work with my parents (83 & 81) & children every day and that is enjoyable enough for me. This is the path my family has taken for generations, and I believe that even in this modern era with all of it's new ideas and fads that it is still the best option for my family. I don’t really agree with your views on the dollar but I can at least understand where you are coming from. Appreciate your perspective though. |
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Originally Posted By ColtRifle: I don’t really agree with your views on the dollar but I can at least understand where you are coming from. Appreciate your perspective though. I have been wrong on the collapse of the US Dollar for many years, and hope to continue to be wrong for many more years. What I believe I am correct on is placing significant investment, effort and value on a simple lifestyle that revolves around family striving together for the betterment of each member, and to a lesser extent, having the ability by those efforts to be a value to the community in which we live. |
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Here in Minnesota I was just notified by my electric co-op that MISO (Midcontinent Independent System Operator) declared a "maximum generation emergency event”. They are calling on everyone to reduce electric demand as much as possible. Local communities last night were also asking people to turn down their thermostats because the natural gas supply was getting up in the red zone. MISO has been warning for a couple years that due to increased reliance on renewable energy, the grid is becoming more vulnerable. There is less switchable power on reserve, and renewable sources aren't good at maintaining frequency. Unless we wake up, our enemies won't have to lift a finger, we're going to commit suicide in the name of climate change. |
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Originally Posted By dairyfarmer: Here in Minnesota I was just notified by my electric co-op that MISO (Midcontinent Independent System Operator) declared a "maximum generation emergency event”. They are calling on everyone to reduce electric demand as much as possible. Local communities last night were also asking people to turn down their thermostats because the natural gas supply was getting up in the red zone. MISO has been warning for a couple years that due to increased reliance on renewable energy, the grid is becoming more vulnerable. There is less switchable power on reserve, and renewable sources aren't good at maintaining frequency. Unless we wake up, our enemies won't have to lift a finger, we're going to commit suicide in the name of climate change. I don't work in the power generation field but from my understanding, there are base load power plants and then supplemental load plants. The only renewable base load plant is hydroelectric via dams. The remainder of the base load plants are coal and nuclear. I believe there are some natural gas base load plants but natural gas also make ideal supplement plants that can ramp up quickly when load exceeds the base load capacity. Solar and wind are nice but they can't be base load plants. They don't produce power consistently. Renewables are nice in theory but can't reliably produce power. Base load plants will always be needed. Too bad the US can't add more hydroelectric capacity. It's a good thing we built as many dams as we did back in the 30s-60s. Too bad we didn't or couldn't build more. Canada gets a majority of their power from hydroelectric. Things are expensive in Canada but electricity is cheap due to all the hydroelectric power. The issue with natural gas in some areas is the supply is plenty in normal weather times. No issue handling the capacity. But, when the temps drop well below normal, there just isn't enough spare capacity to handle the extremely high demand. That's why I like having my wood stove and 500 gallon propane tank. I don't worry about it. Natural gas is great most of the time but if I had natural gas, I'd DEFINITELY have a backup that doesn't rely on natural gas. Some propane bottles and Buddy heaters, a kerosene tower heater, or one of those vented diesel heaters would be ideal as a back up to the home's natural gas. I'm not a big fan of the kerosene heaters (I do own one though) due to smell and the high cost of kerosene. If I wanted to have a back up heat source, I'd probably get a few of those diesel heaters and a dual hose set up to go through a window. That way, it doesn't have to be permanent |
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Originally Posted By lumper: I have been wrong on the collapse of the US Dollar for many years, and hope to continue to be wrong for many more years. What I believe I am correct on is placing significant investment, effort and value on a simple lifestyle that revolves around family striving together for the betterment of each member, and to a lesser extent, having the ability by those efforts to be a value to the community in which we live. I've read stuff from the 1970s and more recently predicting the collapse of the US and the dollar. None of those predictions have come true. I think the main thing they overlooked is the sheer massiveness of the US economy. They also seem to have overlooked the fact that the US is a manufacturing and farming powerhouse in the world. The world needs the US far more than the US needs the world. In the end, the financial stability or lack of financial stability for most people comes back to how much you spend. Planning on a simple lifestyle means less money is needed to support you later in life when working is not as easy. Lots of people criticize the Amish (and some criticism is probably deserved) but they do make caring for each other as a fundamental part of their beliefs. |
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Originally Posted By ROCK6: * * * I honestly think Trump in office will push any of China's 2027 plans into the next decade. They want Tiawan, but they can't afford to do it against a capable adversary like the US. Even Venezuela has likely scared the shit out of many nation-state enemies. Originally Posted By ROCK6: * * * I honestly think Trump in office will push any of China's 2027 plans into the next decade. They want Tiawan, but they can't afford to do it against a capable adversary like the US. Even Venezuela has likely scared the shit out of many nation-state enemies. Another reason to wear a “Trump 2028” ball cap. Keep ‘em off balance. ![]() So, we have some breathing room if that was any concern, that's my opinion. The only major changes I would be concerned about would be a Democrat controlled POTUS and congress in 2028 and that's more domestic than global concerns. ROCK6 But if it did happen, it would set off global events. Same as Biden’s disastrous Afghan withdrawal emboldened Putin to invade Ukraine and generally turned our DEI military into a laughing-stock in the eyes of our allies. To our enemies, the U.S. always appears “weak” when the Dems are in the Whitehouse. |
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Partially screwed update. I won't say completely screwed, but the wife just had major surgery (six weeks of recovery)...and diagnosed with follicular non-Hodgkins lymphoma cancer. Yes, cancer sucks. She had surgery last week and had her chemo port surgically put in on Monday. We expect to start treatment in March and it will run through August (target time for kicking the shit out the cancer and it being in remission). We have great insurance and excellent docs who are surprised she even has it considering how healthy she is, her fitness level and no other organ issues. She will need at least two years of monitoring therapy after that first six months, but should be out of the woods in August. Like my wife tells people, her cancer is like herpes (no, she’s never had herpes!); you won’t die from it, but you’ll die with it. Minor SHTF, but it’s more of life just giving you a new challenge. The wife is pissed as we had several camping trips planned now through the summer and she really wanted to do a section of trail on the AT…kind of on hold now. ROCK6 |
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Originally Posted By ROCK6: Partially screwed update. I won't say completely screwed, but the wife just had major surgery (six weeks of recovery)...and diagnosed with follicular non-Hodgkins lymphoma cancer. Yes, cancer sucks. She had surgery last week and had her chemo port surgically put in on Monday. We expect to start treatment in March and it will run through August (target time for kicking the shit out the cancer and it being in remission). We have great insurance and excellent docs who are surprised she even has it considering how healthy she is, her fitness level and no other organ issues. She will need at least two years of monitoring therapy after that first six months, but should be out of the woods in August. Like my wife tells people, her cancer is like herpes (no, she’s never had herpes!); you won’t die from it, but you’ll die with it. Minor SHTF, but it’s more of life just giving you a new challenge. The wife is pissed as we had several camping trips planned now through the summer and she really wanted to do a section of trail on the AT…kind of on hold now. ROCK6 Lord please help his wife and be with his family, in Jesus name, amen. |
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Originally Posted By ROCK6: Partially screwed update. I won't say completely screwed, but the wife just had major surgery (six weeks of recovery)...and diagnosed with follicular non-Hodgkins lymphoma cancer. Yes, cancer sucks. She had surgery last week and had her chemo port surgically put in on Monday. We expect to start treatment in March and it will run through August (target time for kicking the shit out the cancer and it being in remission). We have great insurance and excellent docs who are surprised she even has it considering how healthy she is, her fitness level and no other organ issues. She will need at least two years of monitoring therapy after that first six months, but should be out of the woods in August. Like my wife tells people, her cancer is like herpes (no, she’s never had herpes!); you won’t die from it, but you’ll die with it. Minor SHTF, but it’s more of life just giving you a new challenge. The wife is pissed as we had several camping trips planned now through the summer and she really wanted to do a section of trail on the AT…kind of on hold now. ROCK6 Prayers for you both, brother. |
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Originally Posted By Lowdown3: Lord please help his wife and be with his family, in Jesus name, amen. Originally Posted By Lowdown3: Originally Posted By ROCK6: Partially screwed update. I won't say completely screwed, but the wife just had major surgery (six weeks of recovery)...and diagnosed with follicular non-Hodgkins lymphoma cancer. Yes, cancer sucks. She had surgery last week and had her chemo port surgically put in on Monday. We expect to start treatment in March and it will run through August (target time for kicking the shit out the cancer and it being in remission). We have great insurance and excellent docs who are surprised she even has it considering how healthy she is, her fitness level and no other organ issues. She will need at least two years of monitoring therapy after that first six months, but should be out of the woods in August. Like my wife tells people, her cancer is like herpes (no, she’s never had herpes!); you won’t die from it, but you’ll die with it. Minor SHTF, but it’s more of life just giving you a new challenge. The wife is pissed as we had several camping trips planned now through the summer and she really wanted to do a section of trail on the AT…kind of on hold now. ROCK6 Amen. |
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ROCK6. Your wife will in our prayers and we all look forward to many updates about her kicking cancers ass. 3 months huh? By then my neighbors garden will be in and we will be harvesting from the greenhouse. (I provide the heirloom seeds and all the canning supplies and we can as a group). Ammo is never in short supply around here. If society breaks down it won’t happen in a day and we will just make a retrograde movement to the farm with about 20 ish total people. It’s in a river and has a couple of huge ponds so protein won’t be an issue and last year I started a compost pile that by summer will be enough to amend a garden large enough to support everyone with enough to spare to easily carry us through winter. We should have everything for a large green house by fall so tut will Likely get built before deer season. We are not worried in the least. |
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Prayers sent ROCK6, from my family to yours. ------------------ Regarding the 'touching some grass' in this thread, don't disagree. A couple things to share big picture. This video is worth a watch starting at the 4:50 mark (Historical Cycles chapter). ![]() Training & Gear for War in the West | Is it a Waste? If you search, there has been several different discussions about The Fourth Turning at arfcom. While no one knows for sure what will happen when, I do believe it has merit... history does tend to repeat itself. "The Fourth Turning" by Strauss and Howe, describes a transformational historical cycle, typically 80 to 100 years and going back repetitively some 500 years. The Fourth Turnings in the US were the Revolutionary War, the Civil War, and the Great Depression/WWII. The Fourth Turning itself, The Crisis Turn, is here now, and its been 'happening' since about 2008 (more below). The Four Turnings First Turning - The High - Spring Period of strong institutions, unity, and confidence in collective progress. Society feels secure and optimistic, often following a major crisis. Example: Post–World War II era (1946–early 1960s) in the U.S. Second Turning - The Awakening - Summer A time of spiritual renewal and questioning of authority. People focus on personal authenticity and challenge established order. Example: The 1960s–1970s counterculture and civil rights movements. Third Turning - The Unraveling - Fall Institutions weaken, individualism peaks, and trust in government declines. Society becomes fragmented, and cynicism grows. Example: 1980s–2000s, marked by political polarization and cultural division. Fourth Turning - The Crisis - Winter A major upheaval or crisis resets the social order. Institutions are rebuilt, and a new sense of collective purpose emerges. Example: The Great Depression and World War II were the last full Fourth Turning. Where We Are Now: Late Stage Fourth Turning (approx. 2020–2030) According to Strauss and Howe’s timeline, the current Fourth Turning began around 2008 with the Global Financial Crisis, marking the end of the Unraveling (1984–2007) and the start of the Crisis phase. We are now believed to be in the later half of that crisis period, roughly two-thirds through, approaching what they would call the “climax” - the decisive event or series of conflicts that reshape institutions and national identity. Historically, each Fourth Turning culminates in a major societal “trial” — war, revolution, or systemic collapse — that clears the old order and births a new one. For reference: Revolutionary War (~1775–1790) Civil War (~1860–1875) Great Depression & WWII (~1929–1946) If that rhythm continues, our current crisis likely runs from 2008 to around 2030–2032, when it gives way to a new First Turning — the “High.” Major Phases of the Current Fourth Turning 1. Catalyst (2008–2016) Trigger: 2008 financial collapse and ensuing global recession. Institutions lost credibility; populism and nationalism surged worldwide. Events: Occupy Wall Street, Tea Party movement, Arab Spring, rise of anti-establishment politics (Trump, Brexit, etc.). 2. Regeneration / Disruption (2016–2020) Societal fragmentation intensifies; distrust deepens. Technological acceleration (social media, AI, surveillance) fuels chaos. Rising geopolitical tension: Russia, China, Middle East instability. 3. Climax (2020–2030?) COVID-19 pandemic and government lockdowns acted as the next major shock. Economic stress, inflation, supply chain fragility, and polarization widened divisions. Institutional legitimacy crisis deepened (media, political parties, courts, universities). Emerging global power realignment: U.S.–China rivalry, Russia–Ukraine war, possible Taiwan flashpoint. Generational transition of leadership: Boomers (Prophets) are aging out of power; Millennials (Heroes) are stepping into leadership and reform roles. This “climax” phase is where the future shape of the new order — political, economic, and moral — will be forged, typically under immense pressure. What Comes Next (Predicted by the Model) Outcome Window: 2025–2032 Expect either a single defining crisis (e.g., war, financial collapse, constitutional conflict), or a cascade of smaller crises that together force systemic reform. When the smoke clears, new institutions and cultural norms emerge. Following that, the next First Turning (“High”) would bring stability and optimism, roughly 2032–2050, driven by a rebuilt system led by Millennials and early Gen Z. All that said, it gives me hope that 'high times' maybe around the corner. |
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Originally Posted By GaryM: To be fair we have been on the doorstep of war for pretty most of the last few decades. Different countries demanding different things and the US always wanting to get involved. How long have we been waiting for China to attack Taiwan? Ukraine has been about 4 years now. Afghanistan-Pakistan-Turkey has been going on as long as I can remember and yes, we are eyeball deep in all those. Was really more of a humor thing... |
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Originally Posted By GaryM: To be fair we have been on the doorstep of war for pretty most of the last few decades. Different countries demanding different things and the US always wanting to get involved. How long have we been waiting for China to attack Taiwan? Ukraine has been about 4 years now. Afghanistan-Pakistan-Turkey has been going on as long as I can remember and yes, we are eyeball deep in all those. War has been going on since the dawn of time. And, it will continue long after we are dead and gone. No one should be surprised by war. Rather, we should be surprised we don’t fight more wars. And, we need to enjoy and appreciate the times of peace because just like death and taxes, war will always be looming in the future. To expect endless peace is ignorant at best and idiotic at worst. |
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Originally Posted By TheOtherDave: What would that look like for you? I’d be off work on disability from a shoulder surgery, a little caught with my pants down from a few bigger bills recently but $10k loan as far as debt goes. The crib is paid for, BOL is paid for and livable-I’d suffer a bit but not as much as most…. Things just feel Baaaaad right now, and coming to a head all at the same time-am I the only one feeling it? Financially, domestically, geopolitically, socially…… it just feels like something is about to pop off. If the economy collapses does it really matter if your home is paid off? Like if half the people on your block end up getting their home repossessed what's to stop everyone from just saying "we're staying put until things recover and we'll get back to paying then". |
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Originally Posted By WantGrape: If the economy collapses does it really matter if your home is paid off? Like if half the people on your block end up getting their home repossessed what's to stop everyone from just saying "we're staying put until things recover and we'll get back to paying then". A very risky game. Big banks usually don't "lose", they may take a while to foreclose- watched some POS near our range property sit in a foreclosed house for almost 2 years scot free, but eventually they tossed his arse. A lot of folks pushed this sentiment before Housing Bubble 1.0 around 2007'ish. |
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Originally Posted By Lowdown3: A very risky game. Big banks usually don't "lose", they may take a while to foreclose- watched some POS near our range property sit in a foreclosed house for almost 2 years scot free, but eventually they tossed his arse. A lot of folks pushed this sentiment before Housing Bubble 1.0 around 2007'ish. I dont consider that a collapse. |




