Posted: 1/7/2011 12:26:16 PM EDT
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I didnt want to hijack the other thread . Im glad Im not the only one that finds it annoying , I had a whole rant planed out but got an emergency call and have to roll out . |
I've done it twice, inadvertently. Grabbing stuff including the HT, then re-grabbing the HT when stuff feels like it's slipping. Of course one of my fingers was hitting the PTT. Re-keyed and identified, listened for a few minutes and then called clear. I'm a bit more careful with moving the HT around now. (Yeah - still a relative noob  to all of this.)Don't hear much of it locally. |
Mainly I don't mind it simply because it happens so much. If I let it bug me, I'd go nuts The only time it really bugs me is when I'm scanning the local valley repeaters and they key up the first one *kerchunk*.... 2 seconds later, there goes the next one in sequence *kerchunk*.... few more seconds....you guessed it, third repeater *kerchunk* and so on and so forth all down the list  While I don't begrudge someone a quick one to tell if they have their radio transmitting without wanting to engage in conversation, the need to key them all up in sequence can be rather irritating 
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I think it's kind of funny that HAMS get so annoyed by it. If you would listen to some police bands, you'd be suicidal. And there's nothing like somebody sitting on their radio. So you have FF and PO that play with their radios and your OK with this? Sitting on a mic is an accident. |
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I had a whole rant planed out but got an emergency call and have to roll out . 0/10. ar-jedi
ps: here is how you do an effective rant, btw: i would like to RANT NOW –– about DUCT TAPE |
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I think it's kind of funny that HAMS get so annoyed by it. If you would listen to some police bands, you'd be suicidal. And there's nothing like somebody sitting on their radio. So you have FF and PO that play with their radios and your OK with this? Sitting on a mic is an accident. No, but if you give a dozen or so guys a bunch of radios and they've moving around, working, they're gonna get bumped, knocked around, dropped, etc., and you hear it. Not everyone sits at a desk. |
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LOL if you would have heard my rant that I expelled once I got to the emergency call you would have gave me a 100/10 . I used up all my rant on that one call so Im out for a while . Cliff notes on the call , I had to go work on a diesel dispenser that a guy hit with his truck breaking the shear valve underneath it which the was no visible damage to the dispenser . He then goes inside doesnt tell anyone that he hit it but proceeds to prepay for his fuel , returns to the truck puts the nozzle in it and tries to pump his diesel , none comes out because its coming out of a 1.5 inch line that is now broke into with 40 psi on itin the sump below the dispenser. Well he sees its not pumping so he just walks in leaving the dispenser/pump on so the 30 gal sump is filling up then begins to over flow at a very high rate . A minute or 2 passes he returns to a river of diesel crossing the parking lot very fast , this is when the emergency stop is hit , fire department called , we were called and a clean up company called . The fire department ropes off the area dumps about 300 pounds of litter on the spill and cuts off the closest tank valve to the dispenser about this time the clean up company arrives and the FD leaves . The clean up company then figures it safe to turn on the pumps again since the line is shut off , they fire every thing back up including the diesel because this station has a truck island out back . What they did not check or know was that the line was shut down was the premium line , even though it was properly color coded no one caught it the site also had 2 connected diesel tanks and pumps so even if they got the right one originally the fuel would have back flawed from the other . So when the first truck pulled to the truck island and got diesel 2 high flow pumps fired up causing a wave of diesel to cross the parking lot again pushing saturated litter to roll with it like a mini mud slide . The guys see it and instead of hitting the emergency stop they run inside and shut down the breakers to the diesel which took a bit longer then the E stop would have so theres a bunch of new diesel on the spill . They get looking around and cant figure out what happened , so at this point they find a diesel tank and shut the line down to the pump and turn back on the premium so they do some clean up ,then reopen the truck island which again caused another spill because the 2nd tank/pump so they shut down diesel again. I pull up about this time to a T Total CF , take pics talk and get what happened . I call our vac truck to have the lake of diesel that they managed to get damned in removed , by this this the clean up company has used 6 barrels of litter / zip sorb and has more inbound . I locate the cross over line between the 2 tank lines and valve in a lot sump , shut it off , then turn back on the tank that is not directly connected to the damaged dispenser so the site could reopen the the truck island . The vac truck cleaned all the diesel floating around then we locate and fix the damaged line , turn every thing back on and they were good to go . Thats the short version , theres alot missing there but I had to use alot of my rant up on people there to get to the bottom of it because every one was tring to cover there rear so it took reviewing video and talking to people over and over to get the whole story . If this would have been a gas dispenser all it would have took one person walking by in a fuzzy sweater to have it turn out really really bad with the amount of people around. Quoted: Quoted: I had a whole rant planed out but got an emergency call and have to roll out . 0/10. ar-jedi ps: here is how you do an effective rant, btw: i would like to RANT NOW –– about DUCT TAPE |
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Just figured out there's a good use for kerchunking - figuring out that somebody else is on the HF repeater
I just worked a station on a 10 meter repeater for the first time. I never would have known anybody was monitoring if the other guy hadn't kerchunked a few times 
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I kerchunk the repeater when I am going to talk, I hate trying to talk over the repeater ID, rather just let it do its thing and then say something. also when I hear it ID, I usually pay attention to what may soon come over the air. the kerchunks with out talking dont bother me.
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I think it's kind of funny that HAMS get so annoyed by it. If you would listen to some police bands, you'd be suicidal. And there's nothing like somebody sitting on their radio. this, plus one. I removed the emt/fire frequicies from my scanner, cause I live so close to the hospital every hour I heard about the next patient arriving and what they were suffering from...kinda depressing. The police radio bores me sometimes, cause its all 10 codes related to traffic stops. |
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I think it's kind of funny that HAMS get so annoyed by it. If you would listen to some police bands, you'd be suicidal. And there's nothing like somebody sitting on their radio. this, plus one. I removed the emt/fire frequicies from my scanner, cause I live so close to the hospital every hour I heard about the next patient arriving and what they were suffering from...kinda depressing. The police radio bores me sometimes, cause its all 10 codes related to traffic stops. according to fed rules they are not suppose to be using 10 codes any more. they should be following NIMS training. you should be able to find the list of 10 codes online though. just in case your interested. |
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according to fed rules they are not suppose to be using 10 codes any more. they should be following NIMS training. i will inform my local PD of this. what federal law can i have them charged under? 
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you should be able to find the list of 10 codes online though. just in case your interested. 10 codes vary from municipality to municipality. there is no "standard". ar-jedi |
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according to fed rules they are not suppose to be using 10 codes any more. they should be following NIMS training. i will inform my local PD of this. what federal law can i have them charged under?
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you should be able to find the list of 10 codes online though. just in case your interested. 10 codes vary from municipality to municipality. there is no "standard". ar-jedi But some are funnier than others...Spooky Blue - Indiana 10 Codes
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according to fed rules they are not suppose to be using 10 codes any more. they should be following NIMS training. i will inform my local PD of this. what federal law can i have them charged under?
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you should be able to find the list of 10 codes online though. just in case your interested. 10 codes vary from municipality to municipality. there is no "standard". ar-jedi might want to check your sources there AR. DHS through NIMS/ICS has fazed out 10 codes if you want fed moneys. trust me, i do it for a living. fed has set a standard of "plain text" or "plain english" because of all the variances in 10 codes not only state to state but even county to county. its part of there whole inter-op plans that rolled out a few years ago. most 10 code list can still be found on the web. the "no standard" thing you mention is why DHS implemented this plan. if your not NIMS/ICS compliant then your dept can NOT get fed funding anymore. several of the local FD's found this out last grant cycle. |
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Dallas still does it too. I've heard the dispatchers complain a time or two, but they all still use it.
Of course they don't say 10-66, it's signal 66. (end of shift) The funny one that got me last week, "Dispatch, everyone at this address is signal 46". (disturbed) I always hear it for drunk (8), dead bodies (27) and suicides (34). |
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I think it's kind of funny that HAMS get so annoyed by it. If you would listen to some police bands, you'd be suicidal. And there's nothing like somebody sitting on their radio. So you have FF and PO that play with their radios and your OK with this? Sitting on a mic is an accident. we have ID'ers on our radios now, dispatch knows who gives gives in infamous crotch rubs now 
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I think it's kind of funny that HAMS get so annoyed by it. If you would listen to some police bands, you'd be suicidal. And there's nothing like somebody sitting on their radio. So you have FF and PO that play with their radios and your OK with this? Sitting on a mic is an accident. we have ID'ers on our radios now, dispatch knows who gives gives in infamous crotch rubs now I wish. I've listened to two or three incidents in the last two years where you hear wrestling, kerchunks, etc., and the dispatcher has to do a roll call to find out who is missing or is in trouble. It's really pretty frightening. There's TONS of great radio technology out there, but not everyone has purchased it yet. |
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according to fed rules they are not suppose to be using 10 codes any more. they should be following NIMS training. i will inform my local PD of this. what federal law can i have them charged under?
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you should be able to find the list of 10 codes online though. just in case your interested. 10 codes vary from municipality to municipality. there is no "standard". ar-jedi might want to check your sources there AR. DHS through NIMS/ICS has fazed out 10 codes if you want fed moneys. trust me, i do it for a living. fed has set a standard of "plain text" or "plain english" because of all the variances in 10 codes not only state to state but even county to county. its part of there whole inter-op plans that rolled out a few years ago. most 10 code list can still be found on the web. the "no standard" thing you mention is why DHS implemented this plan. if your not NIMS/ICS compliant then your dept can NOT get fed funding anymore. several of the local FD's found this out last grant cycle. Police and fire around here still use 10 codes for everything. They're still on plain old analog FM radios in the VHF band too. |
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according to fed rules they are not suppose to be using 10 codes any more. they should be following NIMS training. i will inform my local PD of this. what federal law can i have them charged under?
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you should be able to find the list of 10 codes online though. just in case your interested. 10 codes vary from municipality to municipality. there is no "standard". ar-jedi might want to check your sources there AR. DHS through NIMS/ICS has fazed out 10 codes if you want fed moneys. trust me, i do it for a living. fed has set a standard of "plain text" or "plain english" because of all the variances in 10 codes not only state to state but even county to county. its part of there whole inter-op plans that rolled out a few years ago. most 10 code list can still be found on the web. the "no standard" thing you mention is why DHS implemented this plan. if your not NIMS/ICS compliant then your dept can NOT get fed funding anymore. several of the local FD's found this out last grant cycle. Police and fire around here still use 10 codes for everything. They're still on plain old analog FM radios in the VHF band too. I have no idea what they're on now, but when I was a kid the county police in my home town were on 39.98 MHz FM
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I have no idea what they're on now, but when I was a kid the county police in my home town were on 39.98 MHz FM Our state police (Highway Patrol) is still around 42. The guy who installed my antenna mount at the local radio shop said they run 200 watt radios. |
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might want to check your sources there AR. my local PD uses 10 codes all the time. are you saying that i am not hearing this correctly? ar-jedi could be they have just not adapted NIMS/ICS or havent had the traning. even my little podunk county SO and 911 center has switched from 10 codes. we still use 10-4 but other than that its plain english. if its something they dont want on the air they ask us to call the EOC. |
A couple weekends ago I accidentally kerchunked the local repeater while sitting on the damn mic after digging my wallet out of my pocket at a toll booth. After realizing what I had done I keyed up again, identified, and apologized. Three different guys chimed in laughing like hell-apparently I was the only ham in the history of that repeater to ever actually apologize for an accidental "kerchunk" 
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The other day some guys in my local club found the source of a kerchunk that lasted 4 days. The guy had a desk mic with a locking key and grandchildren in the same house. Turns out he's new to the area and hopefully he'll start coming to club meetings.
The talk amongst the club guys seems to be focused on finding out what kind of gear he has that will transmit for 4 days solid without shutting down so they can buy one too.
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