Posted: 3/16/2011 6:15:53 PM EDT
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Where's the Jet ?? Current Jetstream Animated Loops http://virga.sfsu.edu/scripts/nhemjetstream_model.html 300 mb is approx 30,000 feet. Zulu time: EDT + 4 hours CDT + 5 hours etc... I've heard some reports of PD and FEDS moving / issuing radiation detection equipment to Western US. One civilian report in Bakersfield CA. of radiation ( uploaded on youtube approx 5:30PM CDT ). Also: High Risk - West Coast Quake 19th - 26th ( Foxnews on youtube ) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQXDt4VdS0E&NR=1 |
Interesting. That said, I wouldn't necessarily panic. The Pacific Ocean is a large expanse...what is it...like 5000 miles or so from Japan to California? Winds can shift a lot between here and there, as well as disperse a lot of radioactive particles...assuming there are a lot being carried in the wind. To that end, also keep in perspective that nukes have been detonated a lot closer to us than Japan when they tested them back in the 40's and 50's on US soil in the southwest. I'm not an expert by any means on radiation and such, but I'd be less apt to worry about said fallout from that far away. I take if for what it's worth...the press somewhat justifying their existence with sensational stories of gloom, doom, and the sky is falling. 
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Quoted: Interesting. That said, I wouldn't necessarily panic. The Pacific Ocean is a large expanse...what is it...like 5000 miles or so from Japan to California? Winds can shift a lot between here and there, as well as disperse a lot of radioactive particles...assuming there are a lot being carried in the wind. To that end, also keep in perspective that nukes have been detonated a lot closer to us than Japan when they tested them back in the 40's and 50's on US soil in the southwest. I'm not an expert by any means on radiation and such, but I'd be less apt to worry about said fallout from that far away. I take if for what it's worth...the press somewhat justifying their existence with sensational stories of gloom, doom, and the sky is falling. i kinda said the same to someone a few days ago. i said. did we go into "OMG the worlds gonna be glowing" mindset when.... our nuke facilties melted down,when russias did....when we turned a few tropical islands into coral rock sand bars, or when we tested on our own soild? what about other countries and their nuke test? Now this doesnt mean not to stay alert and concerned(if anything use it as a chance to get educated and awake), but by no means should everyone be rushing out to by complete NBC outfits and what ever KI they can get their hands on. Little late for that. But hey,,according to the news on TV tyvek suits keep radiation off you...............if were gonna believe them about radioactive death clouds taht will kill us....... may as well listen to what they say will save us  eta: in bed the other night i told my wife ,as we were talking about all this. I said.. " Babe....rad scares people....its been near 30 years since our populace has been scared of rad....wanna know why.....you cant smell it, taste it,touch it and most of all SEE it. This is why we will see people go into spaz mode so so much faster than anyother event....lend a foil hat to the idea that some flase flag reporting...to not let a good disaster go to waste and all that......" |
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A nuclear bomb has what 200lbs of nuclear fuel? How much nuclear fuel is at risk at these Japanese plants. Something like four million pounds?
I am no expert and really don't know much on this subject but it comparing a nuke bomb to a melt down is apples to oranges. As far as fallout is concerned |
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A nuclear bomb has what 200lbs of nuclear fuel? How much nuclear fuel is at risk at these Japanese plants. Something like four million pounds? I am no expert and really don't know much on this subject but it comparing a nuke bomb to a melt down is apples to oranges. As far as fallout is concerned do some homework and look up the aftermath of Chernobyl. you will see that even if this does turn into a level 7 event the WC of the US isnt really in any danger. |
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A nuclear bomb has what 200lbs of nuclear fuel? How much nuclear fuel is at risk at these Japanese plants. Something like four million pounds? I am no expert and really don't know much on this subject but it comparing a nuke bomb to a melt down is apples to oranges. As far as fallout is concerned The big difference is the bomb explodes and throws the uranium everywhere - including lots of dust and dirt (assuming a ground burst) and that uranium is just sitting there sizzling. kind of like a log burning in a campfire vs throwing one really hard into the campfire - the sparks (rads) are dispersed much further with the force of the explosion. |
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A nuclear bomb has what 200lbs of nuclear fuel? How much nuclear fuel is at risk at these Japanese plants. Something like four million pounds? I am no expert and really don't know much on this subject but it comparing a nuke bomb to a melt down is apples to oranges. As far as fallout is concerned do some homework and look up the aftermath of Chernobyl. you will see that even if this does turn into a level 7 event the WC of the US isnt really in any danger. totally agree. Not good for the Japanese, but not a worry for us from a radioactivity standpoint. |
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A nuclear bomb has what 200lbs of nuclear fuel? How much nuclear fuel is at risk at these Japanese plants. Something like four million pounds? I am no expert and really don't know much on this subject but it comparing a nuke bomb to a melt down is apples to oranges. As far as fallout is concerned do some homework and look up the aftermath of Chernobyl. you will see that even if this does turn into a level 7 event the WC of the US isnt really in any danger. This is what I've been trying to relay to everyone that is currently flipping out. Less than 50 people died as a direct result of chernobyl. The situation in Japan sucks - if you're in Japan. However, even the MSM reports of the super dangerous levels of radiation are nothing more than what a person would receive during various medical testing (cat scans, etc.). Long term exposure to those levels can definitely create some problems but you would have to be one of the "50" at ground zero. If you are looking for a reason to set your hair on fire and panic............start thinking about what it means to the U.S dollar that the second largest purchaser of our Treasuries is currently facing a trillion dollar rebuild / clean up and will likely no longer purchase our debt. Worry about the fact that we have a bunch of fucktard RINO Republicans that are willing to break a minor house rule 123 times but refused to do it to defund Obamacare! Worry about the fact that the same Fucktards (DEMS and REPUBS) can't agree to cut a few billion dollars FROM A 1.5 TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT! There are many reasons to worry but Japans radiation isn't even on my radar. My .02 |
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A nuclear bomb has what 200lbs of nuclear fuel? How much nuclear fuel is at risk at these Japanese plants. Something like four million pounds? I am no expert and really don't know much on this subject but it comparing a nuke bomb to a melt down is apples to oranges. As far as fallout is concerned do some homework and look up the aftermath of Chernobyl. you will see that even if this does turn into a level 7 event the WC of the US isnt really in any danger. This is what I've been trying to relay to everyone that is currently flipping out. Less than 50 people died as a direct result of chernobyl. The situation in Japan sucks - if you're in Japan. However, even the MSM reports of the super dangerous levels of radiation are nothing more than what a person would receive during various medical testing (cat scans, etc.). Long term exposure to those levels can definitely create some problems but you would have to be one of the "50" at ground zero. If you are looking for a reason to set your hair on fire and panic............start thinking about what it means to the U.S dollar that the second largest purchaser of our Treasuries is currently facing a trillion dollar rebuild / clean up and will likely no longer purchase our debt. Worry about the fact that we have a bunch of fucktard RINO Republicans that are willing to break a minor house rule 123 times but refused to do it to defund Obamacare! Worry about the fact that the same Fucktards (DEMS and REPUBS) can't agree to cut a few billion dollars FROM A 1.5 TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT! There are many reasons to worry but Japans radiation isn't even on my radar. My .02 Well put. My 12 year old and I need to have a talk....he has been having nitemares about Zombies and the end of the world....asking me questions about radiation poisoning etc. I talked with him some last night but I think he is too smart for his own good....he doesn't need to worry about this shit at 12..... |
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Well put. My 12 year old and I need to have a talk....he has been having nitemares about Zombies and the end of the world....asking me questions about radiation poisoning etc. I talked with him some last night but I think he is too smart for his own good....he doesn't need to worry about this shit at 12..... Maybe hes having preminations? 
On a more serious note does he play call of duty? I would look to limit his intake of video games if he did. Probably help. My daughter saw me play the zombie mode on night on multiplayer after she got up from bed. . . . had a rough night sleeping afterwards. |
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A nuclear bomb has what 200lbs of nuclear fuel? How much nuclear fuel is at risk at these Japanese plants. Something like four million pounds? I am no expert and really don't know much on this subject but it comparing a nuke bomb to a melt down is apples to oranges. As far as fallout is concerned do some homework and look up the aftermath of Chernobyl. you will see that even if this does turn into a level 7 event the WC of the US isnt really in any danger. This is what I've been trying to relay to everyone that is currently flipping out. Less than 50 people died as a direct result of chernobyl. The situation in Japan sucks - if you're in Japan. However, even the MSM reports of the super dangerous levels of radiation are nothing more than what a person would receive during various medical testing (cat scans, etc.). Long term exposure to those levels can definitely create some problems but you would have to be one of the "50" at ground zero. If you are looking for a reason to set your hair on fire and panic............start thinking about what it means to the U.S dollar that the second largest purchaser of our Treasuries is currently facing a trillion dollar rebuild / clean up and will likely no longer purchase our debt. Worry about the fact that we have a bunch of fucktard RINO Republicans that are willing to break a minor house rule 123 times but refused to do it to defund Obamacare! Worry about the fact that the same Fucktards (DEMS and REPUBS) can't agree to cut a few billion dollars FROM A 1.5 TRILLION DOLLAR DEFICIT! There are many reasons to worry but Japans radiation isn't even on my radar. My .02 I live 15miles from the Hanford Nuclear Reservation and know more than one Nuclear engineer and they are very concerned about fallout here on the West coast. |
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I live 15miles from the Hanford Nuclear Reservation and know more than one Nuclear engineer and they are very concerned about fallout here on the West coast. I wonder why. Is the potential fallout reaching the West coast much worse than the fallout we received from the bombs detonated near Hiroshima and Nagasaki (was there any)? |
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I live 15miles from the Hanford Nuclear Reservation and know more than one Nuclear engineer and they are very concerned about fallout here on the West coast. then i would never trust him again. get him to explain how radiation from a level 7 even only covered 2400 miles so how is this going to travel to the west coast. last i checked its more than 5000 miles from Japan to the west coast. over double the distance than the entire area effected(read as detected a rise in radio active particles not actually creating a medical problem) have him explain his reasoning on why he is concerned. |
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People need not to freak out over fall out on the west coast or anywhere in the USA. I seriously doubt there will be any radioactive particles in the air by the time it crosses the vast ocean. The US ships off the coast of Japan just picked up minute levels. I work in nuclear power plant , so I deal with this stuff on a daily basis. I know how it works and the different types. Dont let the radical media brain wash you or your family.
US Nuclear Regulatory Commission allows US radiation workers to receive up to 5 Rem per year or 5,000 Mrem. According to the American Nuclear Society, the following are the typical dose levels from various medical tests: * Extremity (arm, leg, etc) Xray: 1 mrem * Dental Xray: 1 mrem * Chest Xray: 6 mrem * Nuclear Medicine (thyroid scan): 14 mrem * Neck/Skull Xray: 20 mrem * Pelvis/Huip Xray: 65 mrem * CAT Scan: 110 mrem * Upper GI Xray: 245 mrem * Barium Enema: 405 mrem The average total dose rate for the USA is 360 mrem a year. It has been estimated that your chance of dying from cancer increases 10% if you accumulate a total of 250,000 mrem. This would be over 3,000 mrem a year over 80 years, for example. This estimates presumably assume a linear risk factor between dose and the chance of getting cancer, and there are those who now dispute such assumptions, which means the risks from low levels of radiation may be overstated. A single dose of around 450 R (450,000 mR) is usually considered produce death in 50% of the cases. |
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People need not to freak out over fall out on the west coast or anywhere in the USA. I seriously doubt there will be any radioactive particles in the air by the time it crosses the vast ocean. The US ships off the coast of Japan just picked up minute levels. I work in nuclear power plant , so I deal with this stuff on a daily basis. I know how it works and the different types. Dont let the radical media brain wash you or your family. US Nuclear Regulatory Commission allows US radiation workers to receive up to 5 Rem per year or 5,000 Mrem. According to the American Nuclear Society, the following are the typical dose levels from various medical tests: * Extremity (arm, leg, etc) Xray: 1 mrem * Dental Xray: 1 mrem * Chest Xray: 6 mrem * Nuclear Medicine (thyroid scan): 14 mrem * Neck/Skull Xray: 20 mrem * Pelvis/Huip Xray: 65 mrem * CAT Scan: 110 mrem * Upper GI Xray: 245 mrem * Barium Enema: 405 mrem The average total dose rate for the USA is 360 mrem a year. It has been estimated that your chance of dying from cancer increases 10% if you accumulate a total of 250,000 mrem. This would be over 3,000 mrem a year over 80 years, for example. This estimates presumably assume a linear risk factor between dose and the chance of getting cancer, and there are those who now dispute such assumptions, which means the risks from low levels of radiation may be overstated. A single dose of around 450 R (450,000 mR) is usually considered produce death in 50% of the cases. I would not call concern ,freaking out! Thanks for your opinion good to hear from someone in the know. |
Sorry. People on this forum may not be freaking out. But I have the news on right now and people are "freaking out" on the west coast. One guy had KI pills in a candy jar sitting on his dining room table 
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People need not to freak out over fall out on the west coast or anywhere in the USA. I seriously doubt there will be any radioactive particles in the air by the time it crosses the vast ocean. The US ships off the coast of Japan just picked up minute levels. I work in nuclear power plant , so I deal with this stuff on a daily basis. I know how it works and the different types. Dont let the radical media brain wash you or your family. US Nuclear Regulatory Commission allows US radiation workers to receive up to 5 Rem per year or 5,000 Mrem. According to the American Nuclear Society, the following are the typical dose levels from various medical tests: * Extremity (arm, leg, etc) Xray: 1 mrem * Dental Xray: 1 mrem * Chest Xray: 6 mrem * Nuclear Medicine (thyroid scan): 14 mrem * Neck/Skull Xray: 20 mrem * Pelvis/Huip Xray: 65 mrem * CAT Scan: 110 mrem * Upper GI Xray: 245 mrem * Barium Enema: 405 mrem The average total dose rate for the USA is 360 mrem a year. It has been estimated that your chance of dying from cancer increases 10% if you accumulate a total of 250,000 mrem. This would be over 3,000 mrem a year over 80 years, for example. This estimates presumably assume a linear risk factor between dose and the chance of getting cancer, and there are those who now dispute such assumptions, which means the risks from low levels of radiation may be overstated. A single dose of around 450 R (450,000 mR) is usually considered produce death in 50% of the cases. I would not call concern ,freaking out! Thanks for your opinion good to hear from someone in the know. |
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Sorry. People on this forum may not be freaking out. But I have the news on right now and people are "freaking out" on the west coast. One guy had KI pills in a candy jar sitting on his dining room table
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People need not to freak out over fall out on the west coast or anywhere in the USA. I seriously doubt there will be any radioactive particles in the air by the time it crosses the vast ocean. The US ships off the coast of Japan just picked up minute levels. I work in nuclear power plant , so I deal with this stuff on a daily basis. I know how it works and the different types. Dont let the radical media brain wash you or your family. US Nuclear Regulatory Commission allows US radiation workers to receive up to 5 Rem per year or 5,000 Mrem. According to the American Nuclear Society, the following are the typical dose levels from various medical tests: * Extremity (arm, leg, etc) Xray: 1 mrem * Dental Xray: 1 mrem * Chest Xray: 6 mrem * Nuclear Medicine (thyroid scan): 14 mrem * Neck/Skull Xray: 20 mrem * Pelvis/Huip Xray: 65 mrem * CAT Scan: 110 mrem * Upper GI Xray: 245 mrem * Barium Enema: 405 mrem The average total dose rate for the USA is 360 mrem a year. It has been estimated that your chance of dying from cancer increases 10% if you accumulate a total of 250,000 mrem. This would be over 3,000 mrem a year over 80 years, for example. This estimates presumably assume a linear risk factor between dose and the chance of getting cancer, and there are those who now dispute such assumptions, which means the risks from low levels of radiation may be overstated. A single dose of around 450 R (450,000 mR) is usually considered produce death in 50% of the cases. I would not call concern ,freaking out! Thanks for your opinion good to hear from someone in the know. well to be honest the thought of buying a couple extra rolls of duct tape and plastic has crossed my mind  .
The press is just trying to sell commercial time thats why they are freaking out. When the sunami hit Japan i heard a weatherman on CNN saying that the waves that were about to hit the West coast was the worst thing to ever happen to the U.S. |
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People need not to freak out over fall out on the west coast or anywhere in the USA. I seriously doubt there will be any radioactive particles in the air by the time it crosses the vast ocean. The US ships off the coast of Japan just picked up minute levels. I work in nuclear power plant , so I deal with this stuff on a daily basis. I know how it works and the different types. Dont let the radical media brain wash you or your family. US Nuclear Regulatory Commission allows US radiation workers to receive up to 5 Rem per year or 5,000 Mrem. According to the American Nuclear Society, the following are the typical dose levels from various medical tests: * Extremity (arm, leg, etc) Xray: 1 mrem * Dental Xray: 1 mrem * Chest Xray: 6 mrem * Nuclear Medicine (thyroid scan): 14 mrem * Neck/Skull Xray: 20 mrem * Pelvis/Huip Xray: 65 mrem * CAT Scan: 110 mrem * Upper GI Xray: 245 mrem * Barium Enema: 405 mrem The average total dose rate for the USA is 360 mrem a year. It has been estimated that your chance of dying from cancer increases 10% if you accumulate a total of 250,000 mrem. This would be over 3,000 mrem a year over 80 years, for example. This estimates presumably assume a linear risk factor between dose and the chance of getting cancer, and there are those who now dispute such assumptions, which means the risks from low levels of radiation may be overstated. A single dose of around 450 R (450,000 mR) is usually considered produce death in 50% of the cases. Good post! When I was in the Navy on a nuclear carrier, my brother was living in Colorado near Aspen. I had a bunch of friends concerned about my rad exposure. They didn't believe me when I told them that my bro got more radiation from the sun and mountains than I did from the two reactors on board. People just don't know! K |
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I'm more concerned about the possibility of a large quake hitting the West coast in the next few days. Saw the guy that called the Loma Prieta quake back when on Fox? About 3 days ago. He says Moon, tide and whatnot are lining up. didn't catch the beginning of the interview, but Savage was interviewing this guy who predicted the above quake due to the moon and tides. what caught my interest was that the window opens 3/19 - 26..... did some googles, got Jim Berkland. Earthquake Prediction 2011 Jim Berkland |
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I'm more concerned about the possibility of a large quake hitting the West coast in the next few days. Saw the guy that called the Loma Prieta quake back when on Fox? About 3 days ago. He says Moon, tide and whatnot are lining up. didn't catch the beginning of the interview, but Savage was interviewing this guy who predicted the above quake due to the moon and tides. what caught my interest was that the window opens 3/19 - 26..... did some googles, got Jim Berkland. Earthquake Prediction 2011 Jim Berkland I've talked with Jim B. some years ago and he's a very nice guy. He later got screwed over by the city of San Jose IIRC. I'm sitting on the San Andreas fault at the moment and an earthquake from the stir-up near Japan resulting in an event here is a concern of mine. And I'm not prepped for it too much. |
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I'm more concerned about the possibility of a large quake hitting the West coast in the next few days. Saw the guy that called the Loma Prieta quake back when on Fox? About 3 days ago. He says Moon, tide and whatnot are lining up. didn't catch the beginning of the interview, but Savage was interviewing this guy who predicted the above quake due to the moon and tides. what caught my interest was that the window opens 3/19 - 26..... did some googles, got Jim Berkland. Earthquake Prediction 2011 Jim Berkland I've talked with Jim B. some years ago and he's a very nice guy. He later got screwed over by the city of San Jose IIRC. I'm sitting on the San Andreas fault at the moment and an earthquake from the stir-up near Japan resulting in an event here is a concern of mine. And I'm not prepped for it too much. roger that. if you guys have the big one, our only prep is to wax up the boards and kawabunga. me hopes that it is just interesting conversation. either way, looks like you guys may have more activity than us....... stay safe |
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I was stationed in West Germany from 1986-88. My family and I were approximately 900 miles downwind from Chernobyl when the reactor there blew up and caught fire. We took the precautions that were recommended, stayed inside whenever possible, no locally grown vegetables or milk, etc. The biggest impact was that the base commissary got low on food for a few days when they pulled all the locally grown stuff, and of course people bought up everything they could.
That was 25 years ago and so far none of us have had any ill effects whatsoever. I'm not going to lose any sleep worrying about what might drift over here from Japan. |