Posted: 10/12/2010 10:29:02 PM EDT
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I plan on washing my clothes properly and all, but I know that once I start sweating my scent will start building. I've read some good reviews on this stuff here and was looking for some feedback:
http://www.midwayusa.com/viewProduct/?productnumber=521922 Anyone have other experiences with covering scent? |
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The scent wafers work well and I know a lot of people that use them. I also like to use a cedar cover scent. I'm not sure if it helps that much but I like the way it smells.
As far as bug repellents, I don't use them and I don't allow anyone that might be going out with me to use them. You can smell bug repellent from a mile away so if the bugs are out I just grin and bear it. |
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Oh and what about insect repellent? I mean if I put that on...wouldn't pretty much defeat any scent control? I use mosquito head netting (which the world has forgotten about) to keep bugs and stinger bugs (wasps bees) and stuff away. Also stops poison ivy and stuff from brushing on your face. I am very allergic to both stings and ivy. Also use this to clear my moms yard in summer when both poison ivy and wasps/bumble bees are everywhere. http://www.google.com/search?q=mosquito+head+net&hl=en&prmd=ivs&source=lnms&tbs=shop:1&ei=uuO1TMT1B4WclgfEyOTvBQ&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&ved=0CCoQ_AU It also acts as camoflague by breaking up facial features and providing a brown see thru shade across face. You can find for $1.99 or less. Look at ebay, too. Old school but effective. |
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Have you tried the insect repellents designed for hunters? All of the ones I've seen I have been able to smell. If I can smell it then the animals have to be able to smell it. Maybe it's some kind of designer smell that they don't care about but I didn't test it out, I just decided to skip it. |
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PICARIDIN is supposed to odorless alternative to DEET and supposedly works: http://www.amazon.com/Cutter-Advanced-Insect-Repellent-Spray/dp/B00324DAQC/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1287007751&sr=8-2-fkmr0 I might try that out. A buddy had that last weekend. It may have less odor, but it still wasn't odorless. |
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You might want to look into the Thermacell for hunting with the cover scents. I think that would probably be your best bet. I have never used thermacell but everyone online talks about it when hunting. Am I correct on this? Thermacell only works if you are in one place and not on the move. If in a blind, will work and not odor. If on the move like a stalk, wont work. |
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You might want to look into the Thermacell for hunting with the cover scents. I think that would probably be your best bet. I have never used thermacell but everyone online talks about it when hunting. Am I correct on this? Thermacell only works if you are in one place and not on the move. If in a blind, will work and not odor. If on the move like a stalk, wont work. A thermacell contains a little gas powered heater that heats up a chemical into a vapor that repels bugs. If you're on the move then it might not work as well since the vapor isn't going all around you. When I stalk I'm going very slowly most of the time so it would probably work ok but it probably wouldn't be much help at a normal walking pace. I'm not 100% sure on this though because I've never used one, but a couple of friends have them and I was looking at one of theirs last week. In any case, it's something I would at least look into if I decided to use some kind of bug repellent. |
| Something I was thinking about: since I'm taking all these measures to not smell...but the bottom line is my gun will still smell like solvents and oil...so is it the concept of a chain being only as strong as its weakest link and your gun is the weakest link? |
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I shot a doe last sunday late afternoon. 12 yards away, I was sitting on a log, smoking a cigarette surfing the net on my Iphone. Stubbed out my cig, put down the phone, picked up the bow, drew and shot.
I dont use any sent control........ But I do know where the deer superhighways are...... |
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Something I was thinking about: since I'm taking all these measures to not smell...but the bottom line is my gun will still smell like solvents and oil...so is it the concept of a chain being only as strong as its weakest link and your gun is the weakest link? You're never going to control all of the scents and you're going to drive yourself crazy if you attempt to. I just try not to spray a bunch of stinky stuff all over me right before I go hunting. |
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After 40 yrs of traditional bow-hunting (meaning up close)….I have learned a few hard lessons concerning scent control.
Here is what I have found works: 1. Always use the wind/thermals to your best advantage. Although I am a stickler for getting clean and scent free (as much as is possible), the fact is…..as long as you are downwind of your quarry, you could smell like the county dump and the animal would never know. 2. “Cover up” scents are basically worthless when used for hunting Deer, Hogs, Coyotes, Elk, or any other animal with a sensitive olfactory system. Hogs have the best nose in the business and can literally detect several parts per million of scent (I.E. distinguish one smell from another). So you aren’t going to “cover up” scent, you are just contributing to the quarterly sales of some company. 3. Scent Eliminators (NOT to be confused with cover up scents)….can actually work pretty well under certain conditions and are a viable tool in some instances. 4. The best thing you can do is simply try to remain as odor free as conditions allow… and always pay attention to the wind (or thermals). As concerns hogs: Most places that hogs are abundant (and hunted)….they will be used to coming across human scent. What matters to a hog is how FRESH/strong the scent is. They process that stimulus very simply: Strong, fresh odor = Something in close proximity to them, or has recently passed. It is SURE to get their attention. Weak, faint odor = Hog will notice….but most likely NOT be unduly alarmed. Unfamiliar odor = Hog (if mature)…will probably exercise some amount of caution and will often try to circle downwind to identify. Immature hogs….might be alerted but can actually come in and investigate. How much effort you put into controlling your scent…..should be dictated by the type of hunting you plan to do. If you are perched 25’ up in a box stand in South Texas, looking at a group of hogs feeding 200 yds. down a Sendero (the wind blowing in your face), then yeah…..you can be in 3 day old clothes, smoking a cigarette, recycling those baked beans….and still manage to kill a hog. But, under most situations…..you’ll be well served by doing your best to eliminate ALL scent(s)….or at least keep them to a minimum. The only scents I use when hog hunting….are Sow in Heat and Raccoon scent. Both used sparingly and only at the appropriate time. Good luck on your hunt. Flint. |
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Animals are concerned about the scent of predators.
No other scent will repel them if you are wanting them gone and therefore isn't going to scare them if you are hunting them. The only sure fire way to not be scented in to be downwind from where the are. I have seen pigs completely circle me and I have seen them come right in. There is no telling when they will do what. Insect repellents sprayed on a pad and put under a feeder might actually get a sniff from a pig. No solvent will scare them. you can take a piss jug and pour it under your feeder and they will still feed. They will unass the AO if they catch your scent even if you just stepped out of a shower. You still will smell like a human. Either get high, like 20 feet or more, only hunt in stands when the wind is in your favor, or enclose your scent in a building with windows. This is for bowhunting. If you are a rifle hunter, just back off as far as 200 yards, don't be directly upwind and pop their asses from that distance. |
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Flint's post is about as close to a great general set of rules as I have seen. I have tried to ward deer off of vegetable gardens with every odor/scent imaginable. At some point animals become acclimated to any scent or odor, just like they do with noise patterns. This is why so many of us shoot deer and hogs near gun ranges or airports.
If I don't have the wind, and the pigs are heavily pressured and wary, I don't hunt that spot, unless there has just been a big "hatch." Then, you have about 2-3 months where you could be in a Burger King suit blowing a party horn and kill hogs. The young ones haven't' even grown old enough to associate scent with danger because they have no predators other than humans....therefore, it takes them a little while. My experience with insect repellents has been mixed, and I have ended up using the Bug Tamer suit, and Thermacell. you can't put enough DEET or similar on you here in south Texas in the summer. The sweat washes it off in less than an hour. The Bug Tamer never wears off, and you can wear a T-shirt or no shit underneath it, so its pretty cool. It is true that the Termacell does not work well when you move, because it requires a scent cloud building up around you. |
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All responces are good...Krpind's gets my +1. But I have said that around here I could bottle my piss , sell it (spray prop. line) and it would keep the hogs out.
When I fill feeders I enter a different way and don't cover my scent...the stinkery the better, I think the hogs will relate the stink scent to 'the entruder and be on the look out for that scent' the one that caused this 'set up' When I hunt I'm covered with EVERY dead down wind product. Thermacell......We were going to use it for 10 days at the same feeder for a test....it went for 5 days with the deer snorting us out 3 and 2 days with nothing. the next 5 trips there were three nights with a kill and we seen hogs one of the other 2 nights. Dehog. Edit; Kat says I spend more money on scent killers than she does make-up....for real |
| One of the problems with evaluating scent control prods is that you would have to have identical environmental conditions to really compare apples to apples. That never happens, so one or two hunts does not a trend make. therefore, we end up back with trial and error and I think the consensus is pretty even when that's the technique for getting "data." |
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One of the problems with evaluating scent control prods is that you would have to have identical environmental conditions to really compare apples to apples. That never happens, so one or two hunts does not a trend make. therefore, we end up back with trial and error and I think the consensus is pretty even when that's the technique for getting "data." And the fact remains that different individual animals react different ways even within the same sounder. Although if one runs the others will usually follow post haste. No scent will cover your scent completely and by far the best way to control your scent is to be upwind of the animal you wish to kill. I've had a black bear at 15 yards looking dead in my eyes. I could see his nostrils flaring as he tried to wind me. I said to myself....."no way you smell me" as the wind was blowing from my left to right. I was right and he decided not to walk the few steps it would have took to get downwind. A few minutes later he had a broadhead run through him. 
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One of the problems with evaluating scent control prods is that you would have to have identical environmental conditions to really compare apples to apples. That never happens, so one or two hunts does not a trend make. therefore, we end up back with trial and error and I think the consensus is pretty even when that's the technique for getting "data." And the fact remains that different individual animals react different ways even within the same sounder. Although if one runs the others will usually follow post haste. No scent will cover your scent completely and by far the best way to control your scent is to be downwind of the animal you wish to kill. I've had a black bear at 15 yards looking dead in my eyes. I could see his nostrils flaring as he tried to wind me. I said to myself....."no way you smell me" as the wind was blowing from my left to right. I was right and he decided not to walk the few steps it would have took to get upwind. A few minutes later he had a broadhead run through him. You had up and down backwards. You want to be downwind of the animal i.e. the wind blowing from the animal toward you. |
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One of the problems with evaluating scent control prods is that you would have to have identical environmental conditions to really compare apples to apples. That never happens, so one or two hunts does not a trend make. therefore, we end up back with trial and error and I think the consensus is pretty even when that's the technique for getting "data." And the fact remains that different individual animals react different ways even within the same sounder. Although if one runs the others will usually follow post haste. No scent will cover your scent completely and by far the best way to control your scent is to be downwind of the animal you wish to kill. I've had a black bear at 15 yards looking dead in my eyes. I could see his nostrils flaring as he tried to wind me. I said to myself....."no way you smell me" as the wind was blowing from my left to right. I was right and he decided not to walk the few steps it would have took to get upwind. A few minutes later he had a broadhead run through him. You had up and down backwards. You want to be downwind of the animal i.e. the wind blowing from the animal toward you. Yeah you are right. 
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