[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Survival Kit (Page 1 of 3)
Posted: 1/28/2015 4:51:09 PM EDT
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How would you fill a condom with water?
Have you ever snared anything with snare wire? If no, then you aren't going to learn in time to do yourself any good in an emergency. It's too late to learn how to swim once the boat has sunk. A chain saw blade weighs a pound and won't do anything for you unless it's attached to a chainsaw. I had a lot of fun making up survival "kits" when I was a Boy Scout and all, but they rarely got opened. Now instead of dedicated "kits", I like to just have stuff in my pockets or day packs that I use all the time. The exception is a medical kit. And some gauze and tape are all you really need in that. Keep it in your truck when you're using an axe or a chainsaw. Always have a knife. Maybe even more than one. Always have a way to make fire, and a little tinder. A ferrocerium rod and a magnesium bar on a loop of paracord is almost always attached to a belt loop and in my pocket. Those are the two essentials. Next comes a pot, cordage, and shingling material, like a sil-nylon tarp or a drum liner. Everything else is gravy, specific to the time of year and your geographical area. A headlamp is nice. Tweezers and a magnifying glass are almost essentials if you're around cacti. A mirror in case you get something in your eye and to signal with. A knife sharpener. Chapstick. |
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For what use?
Size/weight available and expected conditions change a lot. When flying in a small plane, your options are kind of limited, and what you have on you is all you are likely to have, if you have to bail out. In that case, a small pelican case with matches, tinder, a knife, a couple zip-lock bags, tin foil, and a mirror were about all my pocket could handle. I kept a small water bottle in the other pocket. In a car? Heck you can keep an Action-Packer or full up ruck-sack full of gear...or both! ...550 cord doesn't offer much protection from the elements. |
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What's in your survival kit? Pics? Opinions? 7 Survival needs for kit: Fire- Tinder, Fire striker Warer- container(condom), purification (iodine tables) Food- tin cooking container, snare wire, 550 cord Signaling- smoke, reflective tin container Medical- temp cavity filler, sewing needle Shelter- chain saw blade, 550 cord Miscellaneous- tin container, sewing kit You don't say if that's your 'everyday carry' stuff, or for your basic 'The Book Of Eli' scenario? I'm in a big city and when I leave the house, I have a gun on me, a SAK, a flip phone, pack of gum, flashlight, keys with the SAK Classic and coin cell light and finally my wallet. I have a camping/SHTF setup that I can break out in a disaster, like a hurricane blowing through Miami. Things like a 4 person Coleman tent, two 40* US Army (r) sleeping bags, 60w solar charging rig, propane/dual fuel lanterns and stove burners, minor FAK, canned food...stuff like that. I don't carry that with me, but it's something that I can toss into the truck with not a lot of effort if I have to scram out of town on a dime. Carrying around some of your items, on a daily basis, doesn't make too much sense for a city slicker. Chris |
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Before anyone goes to pass judgment on my ideas or knowledge on the subject here is a little background on what I know/ have done. I have been in the USMC infantry for over 6yrs now. Graduated SERE, Scout Sniper Basic Course as well as Mountain Sniper. The reason I put up this topic is because everyone is all about carrying guns but not many know about fieldcraft.
For me, I feel the 2A is about protecting yourself in the worst conditions possible. If your not ready for that then you may as well be one of the ones that say "why carry a gun when we have police?" So about the survival kit. They are pocket sized kits that contain all 7 survival needs to get you by until you can get back home. Sure a backpack of all the bigger items would be preferred, but that's not something you can have on your body at all times. The chainsaw blade I use has handles on both ends and works very well for trees/branches up to 6". The condom is large enough to carry water with you to drink when needed. And the 550 is to tie vegetation or materials together for a shelter. |
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Fire- Tinder, Fire striker
Warer- container(condom), purification (iodine tables) The USAF survival kit has these as a water bag. Make suire they the the non lubed.... Food- tin cooking container, snare wire, 550 cord I use the metal fishing leaders they work well Signaling- smoke, reflective tin container Star bust signal mirror and the basic US mil whistle Medical- temp cavity filler, sewing needle Shelter- chain saw blade, 550 cord I have the gigli saw, It is a bone bone and they run 6-9 bucks apiece stay away from the cheap one from C hina Miscellaneous- tin container, sewing kit The last thing you should consider is the survival deck of card they include these in the USAF kit as well |
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...The condom is large enough to carry water with you to drink when needed... Unless you have pressurized water coming out of a faucet, how would you fill a condom? When the military puts condoms in survival kits, they aren't REALLY intended for use as water balloons. |
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What's in your survival kit? Pics? Opinions? 7 Survival needs for kit: Fire- Tinder, Fire striker Bring some storm matches. Much easier to use in an emergency. This is a kit to use in an emergency, not one for building skills. Give yourself the most advantages you can. Warer- container(condom non lubricated), purification (iodine tables) Dumbest idea ever. This idea is promoted by people as a marketing gimmick, rather than anything serious. Get a 24 or 32 oz SS water bottle. Food- tin cooking container, snare wire, 550 cord, fishing kit More gimmicks. You can cook in your water bottle if you have to. The reality of survival is that the chances of you catching a fish with your fishing kit approaches zero, and your chances of snaring anything with a few feet of wire is even lower. The 550 cord and wire have other uses though, so they are not a bad thing to have. Skip the altoids container though. Way too small to be of any real use. Signaling- smoke, reflective tin container Ever try a "reflective" tin container as a signaling mirror? If you had, you would not be advocating it as a way of keeping yourself alive. Get a real signaling mirror. They can be had for well under $10 on eBay. I don't know what you mean by "smoke". Not something you can carry. Most environments you can make smoke. It takes a lot of smoke though to do any good. Medical- temp cavity filler, sewing needle A small first aid kit is useful, but the idea that you are going to sew your wounds up is silly. A couple of handkerchiefs or bandanas work pretty well as improvised bandages, and have other uses. Shelter- chain saw blade, 550 cord A chain saw blade will do nothing for you. Normal chain saw blades only cut in one direction. The wire saws just break if you try to use them. Cord is always useful, but a tarp makes a better shelter than nothing. You can't even begin to understand the amount of work it takes to make an improvised shelter that actually works. The illustrations in survival books make it look easy, but they are very hard to construct with the minimal tools you will have. Miscellaneous- tin container, sewing kit, knife sharpener Sewing kit - good. Knife sharpener - good. Tin container - dubious. If you are looking for a kit to impress you friends with how woodsy you are that you can survive with just what is in an altoids container, it really does not matter all that much what is in it. I you are a good BSer, you can con people into believing a box of crayons is the ultimate survival kit. if you want something that will actually help keep you alive, you should give it more thought. |
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Before anyone goes to pass judgment on my ideas or knowledge on the subject here is a little background on what I know/ have done. I have been in the USMC infantry for over 6yrs now. Graduated SERE, Scout Sniper Basic Course as well as Mountain Sniper.. Then you should know just how useless the kit is that you are advocating. |
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So you obviously have no idea what your talking about. What training/ knowledge do you have on this subject? What do you use? This is my actual kit that I have used many times and have found this to be very successful in performing any field survival. Sure you can replace the chain saw blade with a actual chain saw, a condom with a nalgene, or a fishing kit with a fish boat, but that's not very practical now is it?
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So you obviously have no idea what your talking about. What training/ knowledge do you have on this subject? What do you use? This is my actual kit that I have used many times and have found this to be very successful in performing any field survival. Sure you can replace the chain saw blade with a actual chain saw, a condom with a nalgene, or a fishing kit with a fish boat, but that's not very practical now is it? Quoted:
So you obviously have no idea what your talking about. What training/ knowledge do you have on this subject? What do you use? This is my actual kit that I have used many times and have found this to be very successful in performing any field survival. Sure you can replace the chain saw blade with a actual chain saw, a condom with a nalgene, or a fishing kit with a fish boat, but that's not very practical now is it? Those silly chain saws with toggle handles are almost useless, and they don't weigh any less than a small arborist's saw, like a Silky, for example. You would know this if you had actually used them much. And you've never filled a condom with water. Go try it, right now. I'll wait. There, see? Condoms are for fun, bottles are for water. If you need a collapsible bottle that doesn't take up much room until it's filled, buy a Platypus. I agree with you about the fishing kit. A few #8 and #10 hooks and some line are worth having. But since I'm calling BS on the chain saw and the condom, here's something else I've been wondering about: Quoted:
Before anyone goes to pass judgment on my ideas or knowledge on the subject here is a little background on what I know/ have done. I have been in the USMC infantry for over 6yrs now. Graduated SERE, Scout Sniper Basic Course as well as Mountain Sniper... When and where did you go through SERE? |
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A SERE instructor specifically said something about the condom and yeah its not very durable but with 2 you can hold about a bottle worth of water. So in a survival kit its worth having and takes up no space. Again. Yeah a nalgene or platypus works better but it doesn't fit in a small kit. This is strictly for survival. As for the chain saw. Besides the fire steel rod this will be the next best piece of gear in my kit. If your thinking the thin wire ones, I could agree with that but it would still be better than nothing. But the one I'm talking about is a actual chain saw blade. The cheap nylon handles broke from use but I took them off and replaced it with 550 loops. And if you think this is a junk piece of gear you have never used one. I can cut branches and small trees with no effort.
I went to SERE a few years back in stone bay/Lejeune NC. |
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Also you seem pretty cocky for some random guy. You must have some kind of training and every day use of this topic. So lets hear your story...
The items you listed are nice and all but are impractical for a pocket sized survival kit. This post is for a survival kit that is pocket sized. Not a backpack full of gear. Also I have caught animals with a snare and fishing kits. So anyone that wants to argue any of my ideas should maybe spend more than a night or weekend in the field and try some of this out. |
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Since this isn't GD I won't say the obligatory "post count/ join date" comment.
Welcome to the SF sub forum. Word to the wise; check that ego at the door. You are in the company of some people that have vast amounts of firsthand knowledge on this subject. i am willing to accept that your background may give you some good insight on this topic as well. HOWEVER, if you get defensive when people challenge your kit you won't last long. |
| Sure, I get that but when were on the subject of a survival kit and guys are talking about headlamps, water bottles, air conditioners and refrigerators its making this post almost pointless. Just trying to get some ideas from others and give my input on the subject. When someone is completely putting down a piece of gear I know works well I'm gonna state what I know about the subject. Has nothing to do with being defensive or offended. |
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Since this isn't GD I won't say the obligatory "post count/ join date" comment. Welcome to the SF sub forum. Word to the wise; check that ego at the door. You are in the company of some people that have vast amounts of firsthand knowledge on this subject. i am willing to accept that your background may give you some good insight on this topic as well. HOWEVER, if you get defensive when people challenge your kit you won't last long. The part in red is the most important. |
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A SERE instructor specifically said something about the condom... Quoted:
A SERE instructor specifically said something about the condom... Again, try it. Post a pic when you've got it filled. Quoted:
... As for the chain saw. Besides the fire steel rod this will be the next best piece of gear in my kit. If your thinking the thin wire ones, I could agree with that but it would still be better than nothing. But the one I'm talking about is a actual chain saw blade. The cheap nylon handles broke from use but I took them off and replaced it with 550 loops. And if you think this is a junk piece of gear you have never used one. I can cut branches and small trees with no effort.... Post a video of you using one. Then I'll post a video of me using a small, light arborist's saw. We'll see which one tends to bind up and who is sweating the most when it's over. |
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I still want to know how you fill a condom with water when you come across a water source. OK, now it is full, how do you transport it? Chainsaw chain? Nope, I can get by with a sheath knife and do what need done with wood in an emergency situation, and it is vastly more useful as a multi-tasker.
These altoid kits are pretty useless for me. Primary is backpack, secondary is a belt pouch with sheath knife. Packs that are large enough to hold things that I actually use. JMO Doc |
| Here is something that I can agree with. Bring a large fixed blade. I'll take that over a saw in a survival kit any day. But its still not something that can fit into a kit. Again I'm talking about a small kit you can fit anywhere. But I'll take that. For the condom you also have a good point. I have yet to carry around a full condom in the woods but my plan was to put it in a sock to keep it from ripping. Even getting the sock wet. Then if you happen to find a bottle or other container drain it in there. |
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... I have yet to carry around a full condom in the woods but my plan was to put it in a sock to keep it from ripping. Even getting the sock wet. Then if you happen to find a bottle or other container drain it in there. Carrying around a water balloon is the easy part. Like I keep saying, show us how you're going to fill it. Before you need it. It's too late to learn to swim after your boat has sunk. Show us before your wife finds a condom in your "survival kit" and tells you to show HER. |
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What do you mean by won't last long? This is a discussion on survival not popularity.... You'd think that's the case but.... 1st welcome to the forums.... No offense but "survival " isn't just bow drills and Dakota pits....its not small team statics as a fighting force against zombies....its not country jumping...2000 pounds of beans or homesteading... Its all of that and then some. Ego /pride and swinging the "internet "dick around wont win people over. My mini kit what I carry in my fighting gear. Survival straw Mylar blanket Firesteel Matches 550 Small knife Led light Chemical light Wrist compass Small collapsible canteen. Head net and gauntlets (bug stuff) Small bandage Most stuff scavenged from older usaf survival kits. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
| I don't understand what your argument is. I have filed one up and it works. I'm not gonna waste my time to take a pic of it. Have you tried and had problems or what? I know they are delicate but it still holds water. If you have a better suggestion that will fit in a 5"x6"x1.25" tin then I'd like to hear it. I did have small trash bags before but I currently have 2 condoms. |
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So how big is this kit? What do you put it in? And if you use matches why not just have a lighter? Fire steel brand is tits BTW. Also I use a tin with tape around it to seal it from water getting in
Ego /pride and swinging the "internet "dick around wont win people over. My mini kit what I carry in my fighting gear. Survival straw Mylar blanket Firesteel Matches 550 Small knife Led light Chemical light Wrist compass Small collapsible canteen. Head net and gauntlets (bug stuff) Small bandage |
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The condom should be placed in a sock.
Place it the water and run it back and forth to to force the water in. The condom will actually hold a lot of water and the sock gives it support and a little protection. If you were going deep in the backwoods it could be useful in an emergency. If around populated ares,then there is enough trash water and soda bottles laying in ditches and everywhere else for that mater to have plenty of containers for water. In my area, the problem would be finding water to put in the container no matter what it was. |
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You'd think that's the case but.... 1st welcome to the forums.... No offense but "survival " isn't just bow drills and Dakota pits....its not small team statics as a fighting force against zombies....its not country jumping...2000 pounds of beans or homesteading... Its all of that and then some. So how big is this kit? What do you put it in? And if you use matches why not just have a lighter? Fire steel brand is tits BTW. Ego /pride and swinging the "internet "dick around wont win people over. My mini kit what I carry in my fighting gear. Survival straw Mylar blanket Firesteel Matches 550 Small knife Led light Chemical light Wrist compass Small collapsible canteen. Head net and gauntlets (bug stuff) Small bandage Most stuff scavenged from older usaf survival kits. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quoted:
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What do you mean by won't last long? This is a discussion on survival not popularity.... You'd think that's the case but.... 1st welcome to the forums.... No offense but "survival " isn't just bow drills and Dakota pits....its not small team statics as a fighting force against zombies....its not country jumping...2000 pounds of beans or homesteading... Its all of that and then some. So how big is this kit? What do you put it in? And if you use matches why not just have a lighter? Fire steel brand is tits BTW. Ego /pride and swinging the "internet "dick around wont win people over. My mini kit what I carry in my fighting gear. Survival straw Mylar blanket Firesteel Matches 550 Small knife Led light Chemical light Wrist compass Small collapsible canteen. Head net and gauntlets (bug stuff) Small bandage Most stuff scavenged from older usaf survival kits. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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I don't understand what your argument is. I have filed one up and it works. I'm not gonna waste my time to take a pic of it. Have you tried and had problems or what? I know they are delicate but it still holds water. If you have a better suggestion that will fit in a 5"x6"x1.25" tin then I'd like to hear it. I did have small trash bags before but I currently have 2 condoms. Your simple problem is that you don't give any 'context' to your survival kit, or your personal circumstances. You make a blanket statement about carrying X, Y or Z and then you fail to provide certain details about the 'whys and wherefores' of your selections. You intimate that your kit can help you survive until you get home, if you're stranded away from it, but how far are we talking about and what type of area do you live in? For me, 5 out of your 7 categories are pretty much a joke, if I find myself stranded even 30 miles from home. If your suggestions are meant to take care of a doomsday type scenario, then they're woefully short in valuable items. Really, a chainsaw blade? Chris |
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What do you mean by won't last long? This is a discussion on survival not popularity.... This forum is for exchange of ideas as well as opinions on the subject matter. I hope everyone that comes here does so with that intent and even if it's a little or a lot different then the thought process of some or most here are still welcomed. I've learned things from kids on this as well as other subjects so any new ideas should be welcomed and keep an open mind kept. I'd hate to see potential contributors to this forum leave because their thought process was along forum lines and were pushed out. At the same time new members to this forum should keep their minds open to the experience of others, especially if they actually use and practice the subject matter. |
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Quoted: ... for a pocket sized survival kit.
You can see the sail needle in the front of the wallet at the top of it. I just took this stuff out of my pockets/off my wrist to take the pic Are we also required to post up our training? What about practical use and field experience? Fieldcraft pictures? Stalk pictures? |
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Kit fits in a cargo pocket. Est. Size is 1-1.5 thick by 4 square. Its in the rubberized belt looped pouch air force kits come in. Then in a zip lock. The collapsible canteen means redundancy in water. The matches are water proofed...and I may have a BIC in there Im going off memory and I'm at work.
Its made to cover fire...shelter...water...stuff to keep my ass alive if need be. I've got several kits and original non scavenged kits that reside in my load outs. IMHO most items are junk in mini kits. Which is why mine has what it has. Id have to.lose my pack...belt kit...fighting kit before that kit gets torn into...since its redundant to what's in the other kits already. I don't carry "mini "kits daily...they are there as "Ohhh fuck the zombies ate my pack....the Russo -Cuban paratroopers took my fighting kit...and that bear ripped my belt kit off..." Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Your simple problem is that you don't give any 'context' to your survival kit, or your personal circumstances.
You make a blanket statement about carrying X, Y or Z and then you fail to provide certain details about the 'whys and wherefores' of your selections. You intimate that your kit can help you survive until you get home, if you're stranded away from it, but how far are we talking about and what type of area do you live in? For me, 5 out of your 7 categories are pretty much a joke, if I find myself stranded even 30 miles from home. If your suggestions are meant to take care of a doomsday type scenario, then they're woefully short in valuable items. Really, a chainsaw blade? If you want me to explain each item I can but I think most are self explanatory. I understand your questioning on the condom but I'm. Pretty confident in the rest as I have used all of it and it works fine for the application of this specific situation/ purpose. For the scenario I guess I made it for combat scenario or just out backpacking and lost in the woods. Likely around where I backpack I'd never be in that situation but no sense in not being prepared. |
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I just took this stuff out of my pockets/off my wrist to take the pic
Are we also required to post up our training? What about practical use and field experience? Fieldcraft pictures? Stalk pictures? So you keep all this gear in your pockets at all times? I am interested in what you do if so. |
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Guys, lets give the new guy a little slack. It takes some time to learn the way things work around here. I think that most people are being polite, but folks need to at least provide some sort of reasoning and backround when they proclaim X, Y or Z (especially in a specialty/technical forum,) even if it's only a sentence or two and we didn't get that at first. Then we get the whole 'I've been to SERE...' schtick' from a new guy and it appears that the Rhinestone Cowboy has just ridden into town on his pet pony, firing his cap guns into the air. Chris |
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Quoted: I just took this stuff out of my pockets/off my wrist to take the pic Are we also required to post up our training? What about practical use and field experience? Fieldcraft pictures? Stalk pictures? So you keep all this gear in your pockets at all times? I am interested in what you do if so. Watch and bracelet on my wrists. Light and multitool in my support side pocket, pocket knife in my strong side pocket, and Israeli bandage is my support side cargo pocket. Wallet in my strong side back pocket. |
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I think that most people are being polite, but folks need to at least provide some sort of reasoning and backround when they proclaim X, Y or Z (especially in a specialty/technical forum,) even if it's only a sentence or two and we didn't get that at first.
Then we get the whole 'I've been to SERE...' schtick' from a new guy and it appears that the Rhinestone Cowboy has just ridden into town on his pet pony, firing his cap guns into the air. OK bud. I haven't been trying to be a dick about anything I have said. I started this thread just asking folks about what they use and there input/experience on the subject. Then here you go bashing the whole concept of having a pocket sized kit that could keep you alive. And you don't need a scenario to build a basic survival kit. Situation will influence it but the 7 basic needs are still there. Situation will just weigh heavier one or more or the items. |
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If you want me to explain each item I can but I think most are self explanatory. I understand your questioning on the condom but I'm. Pretty confident in the rest as I have used all of it and it works fine for the application of this specific situation/ purpose. For the scenario I guess I made it for combat scenario or just out backpacking and lost in the woods. Likely around where I backpack I'd never be in that situation but no sense in not being prepared. Context. Your original post lacks it. Are we talking about going out hunting in the woods for a few hours, falling down and hitting our head, only to wake up not knowing who, or where we are? Camping for a few days? Driving through a forested area and having our auto break down? Do you think that SERE suggests the same gear for their Florida scenario, as the Marines do for their winter mountain training? That's my only nit with your post. Most of the people in this country live in, or next to, big urban population centers. Will their 'kits' be made up of more practical items than the kits that rural-living people might have? Chris |
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SS0317, All we are saying is that we can't have a conversation about specifics of the kit until you've defined it's purpose. You could have explained to us that your kit is meant for a daily pocket carry, and we could have gone directly into discussions about it's contents. We probably all have a different idea of what a "survival kit" is. As you know, being a Marine, our gear is setup in layers or lines. I have a backpack that I carry which is a full three day food/water/shelter, etc. What's on my person is in case I get separated from my pack. I also have a box in my truck with more food/water/ammunition/clothing/shelter, etc. The pack is in case I get separated from my truck. etc, etc. We're just saying that we need a definition of purpose before we starting talking details. No big deal brother.
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| OK I can deal with that but if that's the issue then why are some guys bashing the idea of using pocket sized items? My basic discussion was just over survival kit period. I included the 7 basic survival needs and what I had in my pocket size kit. If someone wants to put up a full kit, bug out bag, or peppers getaway that's fine. But it doesn't have to be a specific purpose, size or situation. Just their kit for their use. I'll fix this on the topic. Thank you. |
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Quoted: OK I can deal with that but if that's the issue then why are some guys bashing the idea of using pocket sized items? My basic discussion was just over survival kit period. I included the 7 basic survival needs and what I had in my pocket size kit. If someone wants to put up a full kit, bug out bag, or peppers getaway that's fine. But it doesn't have to be a specific purpose, size or situation. Just their kit for their use. I'll fix this on the topic. Thank you. I think it's pretty silly to bash the idea of pockets sized items. I see there is some discussion about a pocket water container. There are a few common options, but the condom is for sure a very small, and well accepted method for transporting water. There are some other options, but very few that are as small as a condom. You could use a ziplock sandwich bag folded up, or something like this: http://www.amazon.com/Survival-Water-Bags-Outdoors-Emergency/dp/B004TORQ5A/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1422552233&sr=8-4&keywords=water+bag |
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I think that most people are being polite, but folks need to at least provide some sort of reasoning and backround when they proclaim X, Y or Z (especially in a specialty/technical forum,) even if it's only a sentence or two and we didn't get that at first. Then we get the whole 'I've been to SERE...' schtick' from a new guy and it appears that the Rhinestone Cowboy has just ridden into town on his pet pony, firing his cap guns into the air. OK bud. I haven't been trying to be a dick about anything I have said. I started this thread just asking folks about what they use and there input/experience on the subject. Then here you go bashing the whole concept of having a pocket sized kit that could keep you alive. And you don't need a scenario to build a basic survival kit. Situation will influence it but the 7 basic needs are still there. Situation will just weigh heavier one or more or the items. You also asked "opinions" in the first post. Then when you started to get peoples opinions you got all butthurt. No need to take offence. You just might learn something from some of the older folks here who have a little more experience. My "opinion" is to soak up all the knowledge you can and make a kit that will fit your geographic location and time of year that fits you. |
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Quoted: Here is something that is useful. Thanks for that idea. I guess this or maybe even a MRE beverage bag might do better. This is one thing that I could improve on my kit with. Another thing to mention adding, is an expired credit card wrapped in duct tape. You could use rubber bands to attach it to the tin container rest of the kit. (adding rubber bands would add some versatility too) I've used gorilla tape to re-attach a ruck strap before. You could really wrap it around anything you already have, like your saw blade or something. |
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Quoted: So how big is this kit? What do you put it in? And if you use matches why not just have a lighter? Fire steel brand is tits BTW. Also I use a tin with tape around it to seal it from water getting in Ego /pride and swinging the "internet "dick around wont win people over. My mini kit what I carry in my fighting gear. Survival straw Mylar blanket Firesteel Matches 550 Small knife Led light Chemical light Wrist compass Small collapsible canteen. Head net and gauntlets (bug stuff) Small bandage |
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If I knew how to post pics I would show what I ahve . but it wants me to put in a web site Got to PhotoBucket.com, which is a free image hosting, or something similar and upload your pics there. Then get the URL link the specific picture and use the 'mountain/sun' picture button down below the text body window, where we type out text. Paste link into the pop-up box. Preview to see that you got it right. Chris |
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Quoted: Unless you have pressurized water coming out of a faucet, how would you fill a condom? When the military puts condoms in survival kits, they aren't REALLY intended for use as water balloons. Quoted: Quoted: ...The condom is large enough to carry water with you to drink when needed... Unless you have pressurized water coming out of a faucet, how would you fill a condom? When the military puts condoms in survival kits, they aren't REALLY intended for use as water balloons. |



You could really wrap it around anything you already have, like your saw blade or something.