Posted: 5/17/2012 9:58:33 PM EDT
| I always hear of people talking about how great the 10/22 is for a SHTF survival rifle. I own three of them and not a single one is as reliable as my smith m&p 15-22 I bought last year. Has any one else had this experience? I love the Rugers but I think I will be packing the Smith if anything ever goes down. |
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I've only got one 10-22 and it's closing on 30 years old, if I remember correctly when I got it (used, so it may be even older than I think) In all of those years, I can't think of a single time it failed to go bang. I think I've detail stripped it once in all of those years, too. Now, accuracy wise, I've got better. But it shoots minute of rabbit just fine. |
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Most likely your lack of reliability is due to the mags. Even the factory mags can be a huge issue.
The second factor is ammo. They can be picky eaters stock. I am a tinkerer so i can never leave well enough alone. I have three 10/22's and they run phenomenal. I did a few simple modifications to make that happen. Mine eat everything from subsonic and match to hv. Not to mention how light a stock 10/22 is. It's a joy for women and children to shoot. If you would like we can help you get the sorted out |
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Most likely your lack of reliability is due to the mags. Even the factory mags can be a huge issue. The second factor is ammo. They can be picky eaters stock. I am a tinkerer so i can never leave well enough alone. I have three 10/22's and they run phenomenal. I did a few simple modifications to make that happen. Mine eat everything from subsonic and match to hv. Not to mention how light a stock 10/22 is. It's a joy for women and children to shoot. If you would like we can help you get the sorted out What are these modifications? In detail please. Or a link to something that covers them all. Thank you. |
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Most likely your lack of reliability is due to the mags. Even the factory mags can be a huge issue. The second factor is ammo. They can be picky eaters stock. I am a tinkerer so i can never leave well enough alone. I have three 10/22's and they run phenomenal. I did a few simple modifications to make that happen. Mine eat everything from subsonic and match to hv. Not to mention how light a stock 10/22 is. It's a joy for women and children to shoot. If you would like we can help you get the sorted out What are these modifications? In detail please. Or a link to something that covers them all. Thank you. the best mod to start with is putting a slightly larger radius on the rear of the bolt where it contacts the hammer. I scribe a line 1/8" from the bottom and 1/8" from the end and grind a 1/4" radius between the two lines. This makes the bolt contact the hammer a little higher. The result is less force to work cock the hammer and higher bolt speed. This should only be done in conjunction with using a bolt buffer. If you don't have a belt sander to do this mod you can go to Rimfirecentral.com and find lots of people who will do it for you for low cost. They will reset the headspace and slick up the bolt for you too. Very worth the money. I like to sand and polish the hammer face as well. Makes things move slicker. |
| I bought both of my 10/22 used. put 1000s of rounds through them, other than the occasional jam, I have never had a problem. I have never replaced anything and its still accurate. for longevity I think its well worth the money. plus they are everywhere if you need parts. |
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Depending on the barrel, but usually aftermarket barrels are the culprit alot of times. The best thing to do is take a box of your favorite .22lr ammo. take the barrel off and hand fit a dozen or so rounds into the chamber. You may find that some dont fit down in the chamber freely. Take the tightest shell and use that as your gauge.
Then get a dremel tool with cotton buffer attachment and with some Flitz polishing compound start micro polishing inside the chamber area, this will take awhile and I used my dremel on high to really get in there. after a few minutes keep putting the .22lr shell in until it drops freely into the chamber. I did this simple mod and my 10/22 w/ butler creek barrel became 100% reliable. Also 10/22s along with many other .22 rifle and pistols , especially semi autos, dont like to be extemely dirty. Alot of times a few drops of CLP will cure alot of issues. and then a good cleaning really should help. |
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Mine jams, stove pipes, FTF, and short strokes all the time on Remington ammo. Never has any problems at all on any other mfr of ammo Change the extractor. This should be done to every 10/22. Use a sharper aftermarket extractor from one of the big names. I have two of these rifles. Even 20 years after purchase, I called Ruger with a bad mag. They sent me a free one. |
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I prefer the Marlins to the 10/22, specifically the mag fed Marlins. I have an older 995SS stainless version that is extremely light, and very accurate. I also have a Papoose, the take down model, also extremely lightweight. And a pair of Model 60's, which are tube fed guns. The mag fed guns are slightly more reliable than the tube fed guns, but have the issue of potential lost magazines.
I also have a couple of 10/22s, including one of the new takedowns. Time will tell if the 10/22TD becomes my new favorite. |
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Like others I've owned several Ruger 10-22's that were all great performers.
However, the S&W 15-22 is a great 22 rifle too, especially if you have an M4. All the controls on the S&W 15-22 are the same as on an M4 which makes it a great practice/training rifle. It's also a flawless shooter. Install a red dot and you have a baby M4. The biggest difference between the two with regard to buying is price. The S&W costs more. |
| I have owned my 10/22 for two years. Only trouble I ever had was out of a butler creek 25 round mag. Stove pipes. Other than that, it has performed flawlessly with all ammo I've fed her....which is mini-mags (RN and HP), remington "golden bullet" bulk, Federal "auto-match" bulk, and federal bulk boxes. |
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Quoted: The Marlin 60 is good and a lot cheaper. In true Arfcom fashion, I've got both. My Marlin (the 60 is/was sold under a raft of different names) is even older than my 10-22. Bog simple to take down and reassemble. The only drawback is the tube magazine. Accuracy, with decent optics, is very good, though the factory leaf is garbage. |
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huh....I'v have a atock 10/22 for years. only malfunctions are either.
after 500-1000rds depending on what ammo i'm running it will start to get gummed up and need a cleaning. or with the 2 cxheap 25 round mags with plastic feed lips. worked great at first, but the feed lips wore quickley. 25rd mags with steel lips have been flawless. shoots evey ammo that i have fed it just fine. extremely accurate. when board I often use it to ping the 1 inch wide steel fence post 50 yards out. has kill tons of squirles running through the trees as well. I have zero complaints about the rifle. |
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The Remington Golden bullet bulk ammo has been the worst stuff I ever tried to cycle through any of my 10/22's, and we have several.
It is nasty stuff, IMHO. I am working hard to get it gone, and we only have about 2k left so it won't be long. Our Ruger's have been excellent little rifles, and they are a lot of fun to fiddle with and mod. They can be turned in to tack drivers if that is your thing. |
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The Remington Golden bullet bulk ammo has been the worst stuff I ever tried to cycle through any of my 10/22's, and we have several. It is nasty stuff, IMHO. I am working hard to get it gone, and we only have about 2k left so it won't be long. Our Ruger's have been excellent little rifles, and they are a lot of fun to fiddle with and mod. They can be turned in to tack drivers if that is your thing. +1. At one point I was about to give up on my 10/22; it was so inaccurate that I couldn't consistently hit a paper plate at 50 feet. I thought the barrel was bent. Switched over to Federal bulk ammo and accuracy and consistency went *way* up. I still have one problem with it, though. It's barely on zero with the rear sight bottomed all the way out. I wish it was on target with the rear site somewhere near the middle of it's travel range, to move the sight line slightly higher off the receiver. As it is it's a little uncomfortable scrunching down low enough to get my eye in line with the sight line. Suppose I could put a taller front sight on it. |
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The Marlin 60 is good and a lot cheaper. Have this and the 10/22. The Mod. 60, (Glenfield) was my first rifle. ~1971 Love them both. 
I traded for a Marlin Glenfield Model 60 a couple years ago for an old crappy magellan gps I bought at a yard sale for one dollar! It was the same year and model as the one my father bought for me so many years ago at the local hardware store. Sure brought back memories while I was rebuilding that gun. They are great guns, and as far as I know, they are still considered the world's best-selling .22LR rifle. Even the mighty 10/22 still has to catch up to the Model 60 sales figures. Correct me if I am wrong by all means. Still, the 10/22 outshines even the Marlin in reliability, ruggedness, and shear usability/utility. For survival purposes, if anyone had to, they could easily do it all with a 10/22 in my honest opinion. They could defend themselves, get game, and do it all very cheaply with this humble little rifle. I wouldnt want to have the 10/22 as my only SHTF weapon, but if I did, I would rest easier knowing that is WAS a 10/22 and nothing else. |
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The Marlin 60 is good and a lot cheaper. Have this and the 10/22. The Mod. 60, (Glenfield) was my first rifle. ~1971 Love them both.
I traded for a Marlin Glenfield Model 60 a couple years ago for an old crappy magellan gps I bought at a yard sale for one dollar! It was the same year and model as the one my father bought for me so many years ago at the local hardware store. Sure brought back memories while I was rebuilding that gun. They are great guns, and as far as I know, they are still considered the world's best-selling .22LR rifle. Even the mighty 10/22 still has to catch up to the Model 60 sales figures. Correct me if I am wrong by all means. Still, the 10/22 outshines even the Marlin in reliability, ruggedness, and shear usability/utility. For survival purposes, if anyone had to, they could easily do it all with a 10/22 in my honest opinion. They could defend themselves, get game, and do it all very cheaply with this humble little rifle. I wouldnt want to have the 10/22 as my only SHTF weapon, but if I did, I would rest easier knowing that is WAS a 10/22 and nothing else. I feel the same. I have a model 75c that really brings back memories of my first rifle. I took my mom to Kmart and pointed out a model 60. She bought it for me and I never made her regret it. I sold it many moons ago after I bought my first 10/22. Even then I realize how much better I like the 10/22. I honestly love them both. The edge goes to the 10/22. |
| My 10/22 is now heavily cusomized and a tack driver but prior to the modifications it had problems as a stock rifle. It was only reliable if using CCI Mini Mags. Anything else used caused jams and stovepipes. Now, after about $300 in new barrel and internal parts, it goes bang every time and with any ammo I feed it and I am still using the same factory magazines in it. |
| I don't think there is another rifle with as much information freely available as the 10/22. Start with rimfire central and go from there. Provided it isn't something irreparable like a torqued receiver you should be able to get it running like a champ. With factory mags they should run like a clock with any ammo. |
| I sold my 10/22 about a year ago, one of my better gun related decisions. My Sig 522 does everything my 10/22 did except better. I also have a Marlin and a savage MK II. I don't think the 10/22 is anything special. It's a fair rifle that you can throw lots of money at, but for me, it just took up space. For SHTF I would rather have my 9422, or the .22 conversion for my AR. |