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4/4/2026 3:32:58 PM EDT
I built a 6mm ARC with 22" Rainier barrel with plus 2" gas Tube. I have an adjustable gas block and have it all the way open and cannot get it to cycle good. It has a rifle length stock with stock buffer spring and A2 buffer with all weights taken out. I am using Duramag magazines and still just barely cycles. Has anybody have any suggestions on what I can do.
4/4/2026 6:04:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By G15:
I built a 6mm ARC with 22" Rainier barrel with plus 2" gas Tube. I have an adjustable gas block and have it all the way open and cannot get it to cycle good. It has a rifle length stock with stock buffer spring and A2 buffer with all weights taken out. I am using Duramag magazines and still just barely cycles. Has anybody have any suggestions on what I can do.
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Talk to Rainer... get their advice and guidance. See what ammo was used in their testing and why they chose the +2.

I'm just not a fan of the + type gas systems. Then again, I'm a 20" and under barrel guy.

4/4/2026 6:24:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SpeyRod][Edited] [#2]
Had very similar issues with my 20” +2 arc build. I swapped out the bcg and std buffer and spring for a JP low mass bcg and their silent capture spring with the lightest spring. Runs fantastic now.

Very soft shooting.
4/5/2026 6:04:48 PM EDT
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Thanks, I will try that.
4/5/2026 10:01:18 PM EDT
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Works perfect with factory ammo. If you are hand loading then make sure you set the shoulder back .003-5. Shorter than .003 and I ran into issues going into battery with the light spring. My target is now .004-5. Runs 100%.
4/6/2026 8:41:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: SuperJlarge][Edited] [#5]
What ammo are you running?

I’m running a 22” +2 and have zero issues with Hornady 105/108’s, or my handloads. The Hornady 80 and FGMM 108 loads have issues cycling, likely due to lower port pressure.

If you haven’t tried the Hornady 105/108’s, I’d start there. That’s the ammo most systems were built around.
4/15/2026 7:16:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: G15][Edited] [#6]
Running 108's but got it fixed. I swapped out the bcg and std buffer and spring for a JP low mass bcg and their silent capture spring with the lightest spring. Thanks to Speyrod. Runs great now. And thank you everybody else.
4/18/2026 12:29:29 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By G15:
Running 108's but got it fixed. I swapped out the bcg and std buffer and spring for a JP low mass bcg and their silent capture spring with the lightest spring. Thanks to Speyrod. Runs great now. And thank you everybody else.
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Glad to hear this. Enjoy!
4/30/2026 9:47:00 PM EDT
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I don’t understand why they are using a plus 2 gas length.  I have built 6 different 6 arcs none had any extra gas lengths or adjustable gas blocks and a 20” with a plus 1.  All ran fine and actually seemed a little under gassed ejecting in the 4-5 o’clock range.  I’m changing out a T2 weight in an A5 system to a A0 to see if I can get it to eject a little harder in a 14.5 proof I have.  

Is there a need to go with a longer system that I’m not getting here?
5/1/2026 2:53:47 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By paigecm1:
I don’t understand why they are using a plus 2 gas length.  I have built 6 different 6 arcs none had any extra gas lengths or adjustable gas blocks and a 20” with a plus 1.  All ran fine and actually seemed a little under gassed ejecting in the 4-5 o’clock range.  I’m changing out a T2 weight in an A5 system to a A0 to see if I can get it to eject a little harder in a 14.5 proof I have.  

Is there a need to go with a longer system that I’m not getting here?
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Mostly agree with you. The one variable will be the unknown gas port size. With that said. The +2 set up like the op and mine is extremely soft shooting. I shoot a lot of mid to long range with mine and appreciate that.

In general, I would not recommend a +2 unless the port is oversized or you are willing to spend the $ to set up the way we did. I really like the way mine is set up.
5/1/2026 3:01:10 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FoxValleyTacDriver][Edited] [#10]
Originally Posted By paigecm1:
I don’t understand why they are using a plus 2 gas length.  I have built 6 different 6 arcs none had any extra gas lengths or adjustable gas blocks and a 20” with a plus 1.  All ran fine and actually seemed a little under gassed ejecting in the 4-5 o’clock range.  I’m changing out a T2 weight in an A5 system to a A0 to see if I can get it to eject a little harder in a 14.5 proof I have.  

Is there a need to go with a longer system that I’m not getting here?
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Like any AR it softens recoil as you lengthen the gas system. I have an intermediate 16 in 556 AR that with the gun on a bipod it literally won't move when firing. I have a video of me shooting it where you can't see the gun move. Just hear the suppressed shot. It's cool.

Anyways gas port likely undersized for that gas length.

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