Posted: 1/10/2017 5:18:32 PM EDT
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I've been kicking around the idea of selling my Remington 700 ADL 308 with a bedded Boyds thumbhole stock for a more precision oriented rifle in the same caliber. Based on the information below what would you recommend for around $500-$600?
*I won't be competing with it. *Would like something capable of 1000 yards but 500-700 will be much more common. *Would prefer a detachable magazine. I currently handload for 308 so I would prefer to stick with that caliber. Thanks in advance! |
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Why go with something ......no aftermarket parts.......the Rem 700 is the most popular action in the military and law enforcement.........if you would like to buy a new rifle suggest
Rem 700 Tactical SPS In either the 1/12 twist or 1/10 twist AAC-SD or the nice 5R with the HS stock 308 Win good 600 yards..........300 Win Mag better for 1k yards I like the HS precision Detachable magazine kit with the HS M24 stock and Timney Trigger Or just have your action blueprinted and install a Good barrel You already have a Rem 700 just make it better........:) |
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Your best bet in that price range will probably be the Savage 10T.
The only issue you will have is someday if you want a chassis/stock you will need to make sure it accepts the bottom bolt release. I believe McRee's does but am not sure of others off the top of my head. |
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Your best bet in that price range will probably be the Savage 10T. The only issue you will have is someday if you want a chassis/stock you will need to make sure it accepts the bottom bolt release. I believe McRee's does but am not sure of others off the top of my head. How's the cheek weld on the 10T? The scope rail looks like it sits pretty high? Please excuse any "dumb" questions I might have. I'm VERY new to the world of precision rifles and have a LOT to learn 
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For the money, it is nearly impossible to beat the Ruger precision rifle.
It is a ton of rifle for what they charge and best of all, you can upgrade it easily. Barrel changes are simple...add match grade barrel of your choice. Change the stock, trigger...no problem. Don't buy a 700. |
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How's the cheek weld on the 10T? The scope rail looks like it sits pretty high? Please excuse any "dumb" questions I might have. I'm VERY new to the world of precision rifles and have a LOT to learn Quoted:
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Your best bet in that price range will probably be the Savage 10T. The only issue you will have is someday if you want a chassis/stock you will need to make sure it accepts the bottom bolt release. I believe McRee's does but am not sure of others off the top of my head. How's the cheek weld on the 10T? The scope rail looks like it sits pretty high? Please excuse any "dumb" questions I might have. I'm VERY new to the world of precision rifles and have a LOT to learn Most likely you will need a stock pad like this in order to get a good cheek weld but that goes for any stock/chassis without an adjustable check rest. I would suggest buying this book as well. The poster above me is right about the RPR being a great value, however, I didn't mention it since you said you wanted to stay under $600. While the R700 has taken some lumps in reputation lately they still turn out a LOT of good rifles and have tons of aftermarket support. I would look into a Tikka T3 CTR before the R700 though if you were okay with an $800 price tag. If so IM me and I will send you the link. Mine is showing up tomorrow 
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Your best bet in that price range will probably be the Savage 10T. The only issue you will have is someday if you want a chassis/stock you will need to make sure it accepts the bottom bolt release. I believe McRee's does but am not sure of others off the top of my head. This x2. Remington has had problems lately...I wouldn't take a chance on them. |
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For the money, it is nearly impossible to beat the Ruger precision rifle. It is a ton of rifle for what they charge and best of all, you can upgrade it easily. Barrel changes are simple...add match grade barrel of your choice. Change the stock, trigger...no problem. Don't buy a 700. OP says a budget of $5-600, so you suggest a $1200 rifle. Got it. |
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Since you already reload..... I'd do the right thing and make the change to 6.5CM, for $494.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1950944_Do-you-have-a-6-5-Creedmoor-rifle---Why-not-.html |
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Why go with something ......no aftermarket parts.......the Rem 700 is the most popular action in the military and law enforcement......... Or just have your action blueprinted and install a Good barrel You already have a Rem 700 just make it better........:) I'm not a huge 700 fan, not that they are bad rifles, I just don't care for them. That said, I would really think about the above, you already have it so why not use what you have and use your budget to get more out of it? |
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OP says a budget of $5-600, so you suggest a $1200 rifle. Got it. Quoted:
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For the money, it is nearly impossible to beat the Ruger precision rifle. It is a ton of rifle for what they charge and best of all, you can upgrade it easily. Barrel changes are simple...add match grade barrel of your choice. Change the stock, trigger...no problem. Don't buy a 700. OP says a budget of $5-600, so you suggest a $1200 rifle. Got it. There is no such thing as a 600 precision rifle. The entry point is the Ruger. That is the bottom of the range in reality. |
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Ummmm.... no. Quoted:
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There is no such thing as a 600 precision rifle. The entry point is the Ruger. That is the bottom of the range in reality. Ummmm.... no. They days of the 308 caliber 700P are over. Let it go... 1987 wants its rifle back
Just kidding...sort of...since I have a pile of 700s in 308 that now sit in the safe collecting dust as I slowly strip optics and whatnot off them for more capable rifles. |
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OP I'm moving out west to be near the wide open public lands and I'm looking at this one.
http://www.sportsmansoutdoorsuperstore.com/products2.cfm/ID/154881/22441/savage-10-fcp-sr-308-win-bolt-action-rifle-with-24-inch-threaded-barrel |
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@jlficken I'm buying that book tonight, thanks for suggesting it. I didn't know about the Ruger Precision Rifle until now! I might just wait until I can afford the $1200  No problem. If you are willing to wait for a RPR you may be able to find a Gen I for around $1000 if you are patient. I would definitely do that if you can as you will have a much more capable rifle that you won't outgrow for a long time. |
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It can be done.
Cabelas M700 ADL Varmint Rifle - $309 Magpul Stock and bottom metal - $260 Seekins base and rings - ~$100ea Had the scope [url=http://s43.photobucket.com/user/unclemoak/media/Photo%20Oct%2021%202%2047%2049%20PM.jpg.html] 
And it shoots pretty well too. [/url] 
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It can be done. Cabelas M700 ADL Varmint Rifle - $309 Magpul Stock and bottom metal - $260 Seekins base and rings - ~$100ea Had the scope http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e398/unclemoak/Photo%20Oct%2021%202%2047%2049%20PM.jpg And it shoots pretty well too. http://i43.photobucket.com/albums/e398/unclemoak/Photo%20Oct%2022%2011%2051%2044%20AM.jpg 
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OP, if you are on a tight budget this what I would do.....
Take rifle to Smith, have stock inletted for PTG bottom metal, install said bottom metal, have smith put a barrel on it of your choosing....308 or 6.5 creedmoor....ensure barrel is floated, if not inlet fore end. Go shoot. What barrel is on their currently? Contour, twist rate, length? |
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OP, if you are on a tight budget this what I would do..... Take rifle to Smith, have stock inletted for PTG bottom metal, install said bottom metal, have smith put a barrel on it of your choosing....308 or 6.5 creedmoor....ensure barrel is floated, if not inlet fore end. Go shoot. What barrel is on their currently? Contour, twist rate, length? That or a Magpul set up is a decent budget friendly option. You could easily do that and a Remage conversation for under $600. Down and dirty explaination of what or what a Remage conversion is. http://www.accuracy-tech.com/remage-conversions-explained/ |
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I just picked up a Remington 700 AAC SD out the door for $710. Could get it a bit cheaper if you're willing to go through Bud's. Jon My SPS was a $600 precision rifle unless somone wants to define precision rifle for me. |
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This is what i would suggest unless op can up the budget. The 10 twist and deep throat will allow for great 1000yard performance. My SPS was a $600 precision rifle unless somone wants to define precision rifle for me. Quoted:
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I just picked up a Remington 700 AAC SD out the door for $710. Could get it a bit cheaper if you're willing to go through Bud's. Jon My SPS was a $600 precision rifle unless somone wants to define precision rifle for me. Would you suggest it over a Tikka T3 CTR for $787 shipped + transfer fee ($20 in my case) though? |
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and were are you seeing it for that price tell me where and what cal? 802 Traders is where I just grabbed my blued 308 CTR from. It was delivered to my FFL today and I will pick it up this evening so hopefully it looks great and I will be nothing but pleased. They didn't know if it had the TRG magazine or the new CTR magazine with the plastic floorplate but for the price I don't really care. They responded fast to my questions and shipped quickly as well. This was the first time I have used them but they seem gtg so far and had good reviews on reddit. |
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what is the twist rate on it and is the barrel heavy enough 1:11" twist. I will have to measure the barrel when I pick mine up tonight as I can't find the number but I think it is around .820" at the muzzle. It is large enough for 5/8x24 threads which is what really matters to me. |
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I think that is the diameter I have seen mentioned in the past but I will verify it when I get the call to pick mine up tonight (hopefully soon ).
ETA: The barrel is .793" at the muzzle. ETA 2: I think I may cancel my X-RAY chassis order as I really like the rifle as it is. Too bad I just ordered 2 AICS magazines....doh! Now to find the best price on the CTR/TRG magazines. |
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Got my CTR yesterday. I am debating whether I want to put it in an X-RAY or not as it fits me perfectly as is. Magazines are spendy but I got a spare coming for $104. If anyone knows of cheaper please let me know.
I really like the rifle in just working the action and looking it over. The only niggle that I have is that the brass hits the windage knob if I run the bolt fast since it is taller than the turrets on my Gen II Razor. Taller rings would fix that I suppose. 
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That or a Magpul set up is a decent budget friendly option. You could easily do that and a Remage conversation for under $600. Down and dirty explaination of what or what a Remage conversion is. http://www.accuracy-tech.com/remage-conversions-explained/ This is the route I have chosen to go. I like the thought of being able to switch calibers without the help of a smith. Of course, it is cheaper to just base your rifle off of a savage action, but the aftermarket is considerably smaller. That said, I intend to base my first long action precision rifle off of a Savage action (probably 300 WM). ETA: Spelling Corrections |
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Well, I ended up going a completely different route (for now) and will be putting together a new 5.56 upper with an 18" LaRue Stealth barrel. I'm parting out a 16" upper to fund it so it's not too bad on the ol' pocket book lol. This way I'll be able to practice longer range shooting while saving up for a nice bolt gun.
I have also decided to bump my budget up to $1200 so I'm not limiting myself so much. |
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I have a Ruger American Predator in 6.5 Creedmoor. I can try it out for you in a comp coming up and give you feedback if you want This is similar to the route I've taken except .243 RAP. I'm already a reloader for .243, and I love the cartridge. I figure if John Whidden can be the current NRA long range champ with the caliber, it isn't a bad choice. I'm somewhat amazed at the accuracy of this rifle in its OEM flimsy stock. I got an honest .75 MOA with relatively cheap Winchester 80g Powerpoints. I'm preparing to reload some 95g, 100g, and 105g bullets to see how it goes...especially since in the last week I installed the action into an MDT chassis and much better glass. I agree that the 6.5C is a more popular choice, providing an excellent off-the-shelf rifle. The threaded barrel and slightly heavier profile was a big plus for me. I believe it made an already accurate rifle have more accuracy potential along with allowing a suppressor which I use. I wasn't totally clear on the OP's original requirement on the $500-$600 range. Is that just for the rifle, or does it include glass? I'm guessing it has to be just the rifle. |
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thanks brother.
I am debating getting a boyds and a bi pod and seeing what this sucker can do with 60 rounds through it at 300 meters I have a cheap but ok Cabelas Scope 8x32x50 on it. it has shot very good at 100 yards so I am interested to see what she can really do on a budget. Boyds stock and bi pod and maybe a custom new 10 round mag and were cookin. |
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Would you suggest it over a Tikka T3 CTR for $787 shipped + transfer fee ($20 in my case) though? The Tikka is an exceptional rifle. I have been shooting them for 15+ years and can attest to the fact that it is hard to get a bad one. Yes, you will find guys who might get a decent cheap gun, and show a single cherry picked group, and say how it will do this "all day long", but it has been my experience that the very vast majority of .308 Tikkas will shoot in the 1/2 to 3/4 MOA range or better, quite consistently. 
I should mention that I am a Remington M700/M24 armorer, and used them for decades, but their quality control went spiraling downhill after they were bought out, and I personally won't bother with a new one, unless it is just to strip it for the action. Even the stripped action will require work though. The days of Remington being a gold standard are long, long gone. |
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They days of the 308 caliber 700P are over. Let it go... 1987 wants its rifle back
Just kidding...sort of...since I have a pile of 700s in 308 that now sit in the safe collecting dust as I slowly strip optics and whatnot off them for more capable rifles. Maybe it's the user. |
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How's the cheek weld on the 10T? The scope rail looks like it sits pretty high? Please excuse any "dumb" questions I might have. I'm VERY new to the world of precision rifles and have a LOT to learn You can replace the rail, or (as I would do) install an adjustable Kydex cheek rest. When I bought my Savage 12, I put a Kydex cheek rest on it, carved out the barrel channel a little more, and adjusted the trigger a little bit, and it's a pretty darn good shooter. The 10T would be fine. There's also the 10 FCP-SR, street price should be in your ballpark. |