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5/30/2016 10:38:47 AM EDT
I have recently picked up a 700 and put a 20MOA scope BASE and was wondering what the best combination scope rings would be. I have been looking into getting either the Spuhr ISMS Geissele super precision mount, both have options for 20MOA or 0MOA. Any thoughts?
5/30/2016 10:54:02 AM EDT
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I assume you meant a 20 MOA scope base when you mentioned you picked up "a 700 and put a 20MOA scope mount" . The base is the part that attaches to the receiver.  

Depending on what kind of scope you put on it will dictate if you will be able to use another 20 MOA scope mount for a total of 40 MOA of cant. 1" main tube will not be sufficient elevation travel to allow 40 MOA cant for a 100 yard zero. It might work if you want a zero at longer ranges and do not plan on shooting at shorter ranges.  You might make it with a 30 mm tube, but looking at Vortex PST, their max elevation range is 65 MOA. Divide that by half to allow 32.5 MOA in up and down travel., so that would still not be enough.

Looking at Vortex Razo HD Gen2 with a 34mm tube, you are looking at 113.5 MOA of total travel, but divide by half and you get 56.75 MOA, which would be enough if you have 40 MOA cant and will allow you to utilize a as much travel as possible to some serious extended long range shooting and being able to dial in on your elevation.

So it heavily depends if you need the extended long range ability to dial in your elevation.
On your optic choice.
And your needs.

More than likely since you have a 20 MOA base, I would personally just get a 0 MOA scope mount.
5/30/2016 11:02:55 AM EDT
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Those type mounts are going to be way too high.   All you need is a set of rings.   TPS is a good set at a reasonable price
5/30/2016 12:23:47 PM EDT
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Yes, sorry I do mean a 20 MOA scope base. I have a Leupold MK4 6.5-20x50 scope with a 30mm tube and 70 MOA of overall travel for the rifle. My concern with the rings was ensuring the rings are true to each other and figured a solid one piece mount would be less likely to have any issues. However, I do not have enough experience with the platform or much long range experience.
5/30/2016 4:26:48 PM EDT
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Yes, sorry I do mean a 20 MOA scope base. I have a Leupold MK4 6.5-20x50 scope with a 30mm tube and 70 MOA of overall travel for the rifle. My concern with the rings was ensuring the rings are true to each other and figured a solid one piece mount would be less likely to have any issues. However, I do not have enough experience with the platform or much long range experience.
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I would stick with 0 MOA mount then.  Many people run rings, especially for bolt guns.
Just buy good quality rings. Badger Ordnance, Seekins, Nightforce etc etc.
5/30/2016 9:12:29 PM EDT
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Low Seekins rings

If you already have a base just get rings
5/30/2016 11:51:44 PM EDT
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I just put a scope on my new Rem 700. I used a 20 MOA mount and a set of Burris low mount rings. I think they are listed as 0.85"  height. With this combination I was able to mount my Nightforce 3.5x15 -56. You should try to get the lowest height as possible. The Larue's I had on the scope were 1.5" to center and they were definitely to high. I would have needed a step ladder to get a good cheek weld. Also remember, once the scope is zeroed, you shouldn't need much down adjustment, but get all of the up elevation you can.
5/31/2016 1:44:07 AM EDT
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I like the Spuhr mount. The bubble level is nice.



I have a 0MOA mount. The base is 30 MOA


6/2/2016 10:57:40 AM EDT
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Like that a lot. Who makes the bolt on the 700?
6/2/2016 12:33:09 PM EDT
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Like that a lot. Who makes the bolt on the 700?
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Remington..
6/2/2016 1:26:08 PM EDT
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Height is the number one issue.  I would look at Seekins/Night Force/TPS/Badger/Spuhr rings.  I would stay away from a mount designed for AR's like the Geissele Super Precision.







The 1.18" Spuhr unimount with 0 MOA would be much better than the super precision mount, though still taller than I would want. http://www.brownells.com/optics-mounting/rings-mounts-amp-bases/mount-sets/picatinny-mounts-prod54837.aspx


Nightforce makes a 1.125" unimount.  I would just use a set of low rings though.


6/2/2016 2:02:50 PM EDT
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The question is how far do you want to shoot? If you're shooting to 1k with .223, .308, 6.5 etc., the 20moa will be enough.


$70-100 and you will get you some nice rings. If you bed a quality base to your action there should be no problems with the rings not lining up.
6/2/2016 2:05:38 PM EDT
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The question is how far do you want to shoot? If you're shooting to 1k with .223, .308, 6.5 etc., the 20moa will be enough.
$70-100 and you will get you some nice rings. If you bed a quality base to your action there should be no problems with the rings not lining up.
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His optic has just 70MOA of travel.  He could theoretically use a 30MOA combined setup, but I would recommend staying with the 20MOA built into his mount and not going farther.





 
6/2/2016 2:34:22 PM EDT
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His optic has just 70MOA of travel.  He could theoretically use a 30MOA combined setup, but I would recommend staying with the 20MOA built into his mount and not going farther.
 
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The question is how far do you want to shoot? If you're shooting to 1k with .223, .308, 6.5 etc., the 20moa will be enough.


$70-100 and you will get you some nice rings. If you bed a quality base to your action there should be no problems with the rings not lining up.
His optic has just 70MOA of travel.  He could theoretically use a 30MOA combined setup, but I would recommend staying with the 20MOA built into his mount and not going farther.
 



Yeah it is hard to tell where he'll be once it is mounted. My boltgun had a 40moa base with a 70moa scope. It just worked perfect, when I rebarreled the 40moa wouldn't zero anymore.
I got a 30moa base and bedded in another 8 MOA(2.5mil) because I want to shoot to subsonic and wanted every last bit of adjustment.
6/2/2016 6:24:43 PM EDT
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All this said, I'm using a 15MOA base with BDC scope, and all out of elevation (down) at 100yds, should I even worry since I'm able to zero the rifle? The BDC got me on steel at 600yds, however.
6/3/2016 10:12:42 AM EDT
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All this said, I'm using a 15MOA base with BDC scope, and all out of elevation (down) at 100yds, should I even worry since I'm able to zero the rifle? The BDC got me on steel at 600yds, however.
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Well this is what I go for. I have .3mil from bottom at 100 but I wouldn't want that with a BDC unless you also plan on dialing drops. At the extremes the picture may not be as good, so if you are just holding over for long range you want the best image your scope can give you.

My scope has a total of 20.7mil, at 800-1200yds my dial puts my in the middle of the scope for the best image at ranges I need it.