Posted: 8/26/2015 12:09:30 PM EDT
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Maybe not in the right thread? I have a Savage 10TR and am thinking about a supressor. How much quieter is it going to be and how will it change performance if at all? Thanks in advance. |
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Maybe not in the right thread? I have a Savage 10TR and am thinking about a supressor. How much quieter is it going to be and how will it change performance if at all? Thanks in advance. Performance has never changed with any of my rifles with or without it. (If talking groups) Which IMO is ideal. Now as far as how quiet they are well, they are so quiet that you need to wear hearing protection if that helps. You really need to hear one in person, most will describe it to be like a .22lr, but I find that to be nothing like it. If you frequent your local range enough then you might see someone with one. If you have a local practical precision shooting club then you may find plenty of guys with them. |
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A suppressor has tightened up my groups. Some. I posted some results in the ruger precision thread where my Harvester had a tighter 6 shot group with factory ammo. It is a joy to use on my 300 win mag and any other rifle for that matter. It reduces recoil and makes shooting more enjoyable.
I have not done a comparison with the sole purpose of measuring groups with and without, but will say, it has not caused my groupings to get larger. Some day, Ill do an experiment.
Perhaps someone with more wisdom can educate us on how a suppressor affects grouping. my guess is barrel harmonics change some. http://www.nxtbook.com/nxtbooks/nra/ssusa_201211/#/22 |
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A suppressed 308 in a bolt gun is just a hair quieter than a 22. Comfortable to shoot without plugs but you should still wear them for extended sessions.
Subsonics are in pellet gun, hollywood territory. An AR of any cartridge or any semi gun is significantly less impressive, at the ear at least, but they are still quite quiet even a few yards away. If you only shoot on a range I don't really see the point. If you shoot near other houses or in enclosed spaces or some such thing, they're fantastic, but you should wear plugs regardless. They are emphatically NOT hearing safe, except perhaps with those subsonics. If performance changes at all I sure can't tell. Lack of blast and noise might make you shoot better. |
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Video doesn't quite do it justice, but this is my RPR in .243, with an SDN6-762 and factory Winchester Super-X 80gr ammo.
https://youtu.be/ZXMVR_25m3k |
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Most suppressors will drop the decibel level about 25-35 dB, just around (+/-5 dB) the "pain threshold which is around 130 dB. So for the shooter, most suppressors arent that loud, quiet enough to not "need" ear protection, but loud enough to wear it will still cause damage to the ears of prolonged firing. Ear protection is still highly recommended if you want to maintain your hearing.
As far as the accuracy of a can, it will act as an extension of the barrel, and increase muzzle velocity 5-15 fps. But because the gasses are expanding and losing velocity; and actually leave the muzzle milliseconds after the projectile, the gasses wont disrupt the projectile as much as muzzle break, target crown, flash hider, etc. So with the increased muzzle velocity and the gasses having less effect on the projectile, it will make the firearm more accurate. The differences are minimal though. |
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Gives you the benefits of a muzzle brake without the pissing-off-everyone-around-you-at-the-range effect. It's definitely quieter, but I still wear earpro unless shooting subs out of my 22. I think they're worth it, but my expectations were realistic, as I'd been around them before. The sound is very different, and if you're shooting out in an open field, it's decently quiet. If you're in the woods or under a roof/near a wall, it will still be quite loud.
They get hot quickly, so you need to do something to mitigate mirage if you're doing much shooting at once. |

