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3/26/2017 9:00:33 PM EDT
Okay so I've decided on the vortex razor hd gen 2. I'm now trying to figure out what mount to get to keep it as low to the rifle as possible any idea of the height I should be looking at?
3/27/2017 11:32:41 AM EDT
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If you want a 1 piece mount I believe Spuhr
Makes the lowest at 1.18"

If you want rings Seekins low are .87" high
3/27/2017 1:10:50 PM EDT
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Okay so I've decided on the vortex razor hd gen 2. I'm now trying to figure out what mount to get to keep it as low to the rifle as possible any idea of the height I should be looking at?
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What rifle are you putting it on and is it the 3-18x or 4.5-27x? All makes a difference.

I have a 4.5-27 in 1" height 34mm rings on a Rem 700 with a 20MOA Badger base and it gives me enough room from the M24/40 contour barrel. With the 3-18x the .92" height rings work. But if it's going on a Ruger PR or a chassis with more of a Flat top then you will want a higher mount like a 1.4-1.5".

Here's the 56mm scope in the 1" high rings.
3/27/2017 3:31:18 PM EDT
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I'm getting the 4.5-27x56 and It's going on a M107. I'm a little worried about going too low but clearly don't want to be up in the clouds either.
3/27/2017 3:48:14 PM EDT
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An M107 .50 has a flat top so you will want a higher mount like a 1.5" height. You should be able to go down to around 1.4" but I wouldn't go any lower.
3/27/2017 4:08:19 PM EDT
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An M107 .50 has a flat top so you will want a higher mount like a 1.5" height. You should be able to go down to around 1.4" but I wouldn't go any lower.
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Yep.  Rob is right on here.
3/27/2017 8:07:50 PM EDT
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An M107 .50 has a flat top so you will want a higher mount like a 1.5" height. You should be able to go down to around 1.4" but I wouldn't go any lower.
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Great thank you! How do you like your razor hd 2?
3/28/2017 7:32:16 AM EDT
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Great thank you! How do you like your razor hd 2?
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Love them. Had my first for almost 3 years now and have 2 4.5-27s and 1 3-18 and 2 1-6s on 3 gun ARs. You will really like the scope.




3/28/2017 4:28:47 PM EDT
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Love them. Had my first for almost 3 years now and have 2 4.5-27s and 1 3-18 and 2 1-6s on 3 gun ARs. You will really like the scope.

http://i.imgur.com/OSt3wzl.jpg
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Do the sights come with the sunshade or is that extra and if so where do you get them? Thanks for the info
3/28/2017 5:56:42 PM EDT
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Do the sights come with the sunshade or is that extra and if so where do you get them? Thanks for the info
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Yup they come with the sunshade but you will need to buy some caps. Get the Vortex Defender scope caps. They are only $20 each and built very tough and if you do break them then they replace them.

3/29/2017 12:56:51 PM EDT
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What mount to use, eh?  

Pretty hard to go wrong if you use tactical rings of known quality.  Steel preferred to aluminum on a heavyweight scope, like your Razor II.

Lot of guys like the QD side-lever 1pc mount systems.   I quit them about 5yrs ago when I moved a scope mounted on a LaRue QD riser to a bolt rifle and found the scope on the riser was off over 20moa once it was put on a boltgun's Picatinny Rail.  I tested it several times to be sure.  I owned 3 of the LaRue QD risers at that time.  I did all the verification tests back and forth on each riser and verified that a scope centered on the boltgun Pic rail was concentric  but when moved with same rings and settings, would shift about 30moa to the right.

Unless you own (and use) a boresighter with collimation grid, you will never know your scope mount is not properly aligned and concentric to bore.  On the other hand, if you test your gear, you will KNOW it is all fully correct and aligned.   All 3 LaRue QD risers were out of alignment in the same amount, so they at least were consistent.  Yet, being off 20moa at the muzzle or even at 100yds does affect your groups at distance other than what you are zeroed for...
3/29/2017 3:23:41 PM EDT
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If you plan to use the scope on more than one rifle, I can wholeheartedly recommend the Bobro Dual Lever mount. It's what I'm using on my 4.5-27x.

If it'll only ever be used on 1 rifle, Spuhr.


Max
3/29/2017 4:47:15 PM EDT
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What mount to use, eh?  

Pretty hard to go wrong if you use tactical rings of known quality.  Steel preferred to aluminum on a heavyweight scope, like your Razor II.

Lot of guys like the QD side-lever 1pc mount systems.   I quit them about 5yrs ago when I moved a scope mounted on a LaRue QD riser to a bolt rifle and found the scope on the riser was off over 20moa once it was put on a boltgun's Picatinny Rail.  I tested it several times to be sure.  I owned 3 of the LaRue QD risers at that time.  I did all the verification tests back and forth on each riser and verified that a scope centered on the boltgun Pic rail was concentric  but when moved with same rings and settings, would shift about 30moa to the right.

Unless you own (and use) a boresighter with collimation grid, you will never know your scope mount is not properly aligned and concentric to bore.  On the other hand, if you test your gear, you will KNOW it is all fully correct and aligned.   All 3 LaRue QD risers were out of alignment in the same amount, so they at least were consistent.  Yet, being off 20moa at the muzzle or even at 100yds does affect your groups at distance other than what you are zeroed for...
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Steel is not needed for the Razor II. Mine have set in Seekins Precision aluminum rings since I got them and they don't move. Quality is more important than what it is made of.

I agree on QD. No need for them especially in a precision rifle. It takes a few more seconds to loosen, move and properly torque down the rings. It's not a NASCAR pit crew speed needed change.

Never used a bore sighter in 24 years of using precision rifles but always test my my scopes after mounted. It's a must to know they are properly mounted and track.
3/29/2017 6:37:46 PM EDT
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Hi Rob1,

Known Quality.  Badger Ord, Near Mfg, Nightforce, Seekins who also makes Vortex, eh?

The collimator grid is a great tool.  There is an article by TJ Jackson in the Precision Shooting Benchrest Primer on scope mounting and assuring base concentricity.  Pretty highly regarded guy.  He advises using the boresighter and tells how.  I bought mine in 1990 to assure scope reticle alignment.  The Bushnell 74-3333 has done way more for me over the years, enabling me to diagnose all kind of problems.

Aluminum is cool.  I have 3 sets of TPS high 30mm.  I don't use them with heavy tactical scopes.  Probably better to go alum to alum with an AR, because steel will grab the anodizing.  But whatever works.  Just sharing a bit to help a guy out...

Happy shooting!
3/29/2017 7:13:16 PM EDT
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I appreciate all the help guys, I'm getting a set of seekins.
Sat thung what reticule do you all recommend?
3/29/2017 7:33:25 PM EDT
[#15]
Seekins are great get the 6 screw version for that 50 cal
3/30/2017 6:20:12 AM EDT
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The 4 screw versions holds just fine. No need for 6 screw to hold the scope solidly. The Seekins 4 screw have a good wife footprint.
3/30/2017 9:01:12 AM EDT
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My ARC rings are 1 screw.