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Posted: 6/9/2016 8:50:56 PM EDT
I've never been in the market for a dedicated precision trigger in an AR. What should I be looking in to?
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In my circle, 2-stage is the best. If you're not bound by any rules, 2.5 - 3lbs is about the lowest pull weight you want.
LaRue MBT and Geissele Hi-Speed are the cool kids, though an RRA or DPMS will likely serve just as well. Wisconsin Trigger Company is bringing back the Milazzo-Krieger - the granddaddy of 2-stage AR triggers. |
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FBHO
Teener Krew 4 Lyfe "Technique isn't something that can be taught. It's something you find on your own." - Bunta Fujiwara |
I'm running SSA-Es on my precision guns. A damn good trigger. Man, once they break in a bit....they are incredible.
ArmaLite's two stage is damn nice and so is the Larue. |
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"I'm just an innocent, moon hillbilly!!!"
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My fave out of mine is the Geissele National Match. Got a LaRue MBT on order, and if it works as well as the reports, it's likely the best bang for your buck right now.
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Canned Heat
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I have a SSA-E and the Dmr. For a all around trigger the SSA E is the way to go. If you really want to brake the perfect shot on a target gun, the DMR/National Match is the way to go.
Jmo |
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" Don't cry, nobody shoots Glocks anymore."
"But the new Admin. is a Master in IDPA" "MASTER in IDPA..." "is like C Class in IPSC!" |
I run SSA and Armalite NM two stage and I'm happy with both. I used to run the GA DMR trigger but I had problems with it after a while.
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I've got an MBT right now, I'm pretty sure it will be coming out for a High Speed Match before long. That's not saying bad things about the MBT, it's just heavier than I want. I would like a sub 1lb second stage and the High Speed Match is one of the few games in town. |
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$ 399 for plate carrier and plates-
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_121/1549212_Potential_GB___2_x_SKD_Armor_10x12_Level_IV_Plates___Paraclete_SOHPC_SKD_Spec_Plate_Carrier___399_.html |
My SPR has a SSA-E and its great.
But thinking of changing to a Super Match for a lighter pull |
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SSA-E and a timney 3lb.
Next will be an elffman |
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"History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once they have exhausted all other alternatives."-Abba Eban
"I like it both ways, but still mainly mouth it" -gonzo_beyondo |
Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
I've got an MBT right now, I'm pretty sure it will be coming out for a High Speed Match before long. That's not saying bad things about the MBT, it's just heavier than I want. I would like a sub 1lb second stage and the High Speed Match is one of the few games in town. View Quote If the MBT second stage was 8-12 ounces lighter it would be the perfect precision trigger, IMHO. Even so, I still much prefer the MBT-2S to an SSA-E in my paper/steel/coyote guns. For $125 it's an absolute steal. |
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Originally Posted By mikenmaryland:
this coming from someone with bush in the avatar..lol |
I just had a failure in my HS-match. Not sure what happened but there was 0 overtravel after the break and it felt funny. Very different from normal. I couldn't replicate it and it's running normally now. A little disconcerting since I have a match tomorrow with it.
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I run Geissele SD-E's in all my LaRue's...
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Originally Posted By Lennyo3034: I just had a failure in my HS-match. Not sure what happened but there was 0 overtravel after the break and it felt funny. Very different from normal. I couldn't replicate it and it's running normally now. A little disconcerting since I have a match tomorrow with it. View Quote |
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$ 399 for plate carrier and plates-
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_7_121/1549212_Potential_GB___2_x_SKD_Armor_10x12_Level_IV_Plates___Paraclete_SOHPC_SKD_Spec_Plate_Carrier___399_.html |
Eta: Drunken repost
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Canned Heat
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I'm running a POF because o got it in a trade. Its pretty nice.
Fundamentals will help more than the difference between good triggers. Decide between single stage or 2 stage. Get a good one and practice practice practice. Aimsurplus has that one for $99, might get one to try out. |
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I use the Geissele SSA-E in an AR10 and just moved it to a Larue Stealth build after selling the AR10. Breaks just right for me.
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The hammer of the gods
Will drive our ships to new lands, To fight the horde, singing and crying: Valhalla, I am coming! |
Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
Let us know how it goes. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By jaqufrost:
Originally Posted By Lennyo3034:
I just had a failure in my HS-match. Not sure what happened but there was 0 overtravel after the break and it felt funny. Very different from normal. I couldn't replicate it and it's running normally now. A little disconcerting since I have a match tomorrow with it. A flake or two of unburned powder? Blown primer? |
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" Don't cry, nobody shoots Glocks anymore."
"But the new Admin. is a Master in IDPA" "MASTER in IDPA..." "is like C Class in IPSC!" |
I'm using the Geissele G2S in both my 6.5 Grendel and my .223 rifle that I just started building. I don't have the money for $250+ triggers but I do like the G2S and I think it's a good compromise.
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JP Rifles Competition Trigger Group is at Midway for 114.00, which is an absolute screaming deal. These are single stage triggers in the 3lb range. I have ran many quality AR triggers, but for precision work, there is nothing that will beat a JP.
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I walk a geissele on all of my ARs including the precision ones.
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"That guy that knows nothing"
"Never been there never done that or know anyone that has" |
No longer cool with the kids but and RRA 2stg and an RRA 2stg NM.
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"That guy that knows nothing"
"Never been there never done that or know anyone that has" |
I run a Geissele National Match triggers in my NM AR and my Bench AR.
I also use a Rock River two stage varmint trigger. 3.5 lbs pull if I recall correctly ( very nice for the cost. No adjustments) In my Spikes 9 mm AR i use the factory Spikes trigger with JP spring kit along with a little tweaking. Have the trigger from terrible to acceptable On the M4f Forgery I use the standard Mil spec trigger again with a JP spring kit and a bit if Tweaking. I intend to research JARD, American Gold and JP triggers as replacements for M4 plinker. The Gold American and the Geissele share a similar price point . Really more than I need to spend on a plinker. I may do some swapping triggers in a few rifles. I think a new lower is also in order. I |
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SSA-E.
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FBHO
Teener Krew 4 Lyfe "Technique isn't something that can be taught. It's something you find on your own." - Bunta Fujiwara |
SSA-E here on two guns. Im never using anything else.
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If it's going to be precision only then Hi Speed.
If it's going to be more of a recce/accurized carbine then SSA-E may be more appropriate. You can tune a Hi Speed to feel identical to an SSA-E, but that's extra money when the SSA-E is really great for snap shooting, shooting and moving, and precision all in one. That said, my Hi Speeds have made my SSA-Es feel like milspec triggers when I transition from one of my precision ARs to a carbine. They're that good. |
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Originally Posted By HighpowerRifleBrony:
In my circle, 2-stage is the best. If you're not bound by any rules, 2.5 - 3lbs is about the lowest pull weight you want. LaRue MBT and Geissele Hi-Speed are the cool kids, though an RRA or DPMS will likely serve just as well. Wisconsin Trigger Company is bringing back the Milazzo-Krieger - the granddaddy of 2-stage AR triggers. View Quote Millazo?.....as in Charlie? |
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"There is no hunting like the hunting of man, and those who have hunted armed men long enough and liked it, never care for anything else thereafter." - Ernest Hemingway
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JP competition and hiperfire 24c. Much perfer the 24c.
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Originally Posted By RANGER_556: Millazo?.....as in Charlie? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RANGER_556: Originally Posted By HighpowerRifleBrony: In my circle, 2-stage is the best. If you're not bound by any rules, 2.5 - 3lbs is about the lowest pull weight you want. LaRue MBT and Geissele Hi-Speed are the cool kids, though an RRA or DPMS will likely serve just as well. Wisconsin Trigger Company is bringing back the Milazzo-Krieger - the granddaddy of 2-stage AR triggers. Millazo?.....as in Charlie? http://www.wisconsintrigger.com/ |
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FBHO
Teener Krew 4 Lyfe "Technique isn't something that can be taught. It's something you find on your own." - Bunta Fujiwara |
I ordered an MBT-2S based on the comments above & selected "I can wait" discount, as optics & mount choices are still undecided for my 18" LR-308 'budget' build.
Thanks for all the input, everyone! |
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Upper tier- Geissele, American Trigger Corp. AR Gold Trigger Group , JP enterprise
Mid range- JARD ( damn fine unit) Rock river two stage varmint 3.5 lbs. Mil-spec. With a spring kit, a wee bet of stone work. There are other mods but it's best you google those yourself. I'm sure there are many more brands that would meet your needs, these are simply the triggers I have or have had. |
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SSA
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"If we must have an enemy at the head of the Government, let it be one whom we can oppose & for whom we are not responsible..." - Hamilton
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I've got an SSA-E in my MWS and a MBT-2S in my Larue predatar heavy. I really can't feel a big difference betwedn the two. Both are great triggers.
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If you seek to do battle with me this day, you will receive the best that I am capable of giving. It may not be enough, but it will be everything I have to give, and it will be impressive.
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Originally Posted By RePp:
You know I used one of those for a while, tell I broke it then replaced it with a geissele. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By RePp:
Originally Posted By ag04blast:
No longer cool with the kids but and RRA 2stg and an RRA 2stg NM. You know I used one of those for a while, tell I broke it then replaced it with a geissele. Well at the price I paid, they have been great triggers. I will continue to use them until they break/fail, we will see when that happens. |
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I have been asked to point out that I am LaRue Tactical's owner.
My work has been used by tens of thousands of US Military personnel, and tens of thousands of civilian shooters - ML |
Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
I am told the MBT wait is now around 3 weeks. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By LaRue_Tactical:
Originally Posted By anathema:
I ordered an MBT-2S based on the comments above & selected "I can wait" discount, as optics & mount choices are still undecided for my 18" LR-308 'budget' build. Thanks for all the input, everyone! I am told the MBT wait is now around 3 weeks. And worth every second once you settle in behind it. Currently waiting on my second and the third will be ordered within the next week. The three replaced "G" triggers will enjoy their life with someone else. Can't say enough good things about the MBT. |
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Geissele G2S-E on every AR, including my precision guns.
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1 MOA All Day member
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After noticing no mention, I must ask "Do Timney Triggers owners forum elsewhere?"
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LaRue MBT
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I find a duck's opinion of me is very much influenced by whether or not I have bread. -- Mitch Hedberg
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I've got Geissele SSA-E, SD-E and AR Gold. I like them all. The Geissele's are real nice, but the AR Gold has performed really well. I've really become accustomed to its stages. Helps that it is on my favorite rifle. That being said i would not have any concern if I switched back to one of the Geissele's, but I won't be doing that anytime soon. I may look into another AR Gold at some point.
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Every cloud has a silver lining (except for the mushroom shaped ones… which have a lining of Iridium and Strontium 90)
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Originally Posted By jaqufrost: I'm going to try one of these. I don't want to drop the $270 for another High Speed Match, but I want a lighter second stage than my SD-C had or my MBT's have. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By jaqufrost: Originally Posted By Skg_Mre_Lght: Geissele G2S-E on every AR, including my precision guns. I think they are great for the money. I have always preferred a good two stage. |
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1 MOA All Day member
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I've long been a Geissele SSA fan for general trigger use. I also have a SSA-E in a precision rig that has been very good.
I've picked up 3x LaRue MBTs as the price is too damn good to pass on and I like the feel of the wider trigger. I'm considering jumping up to a G Hi-Speed trigger for the precision rig. |
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Originally Posted By Outrider: I've long been a Geissele SSA fan for general trigger use. I also have a SSA-E in a precision rig that has been very good. I've picked up 3x LaRue MBTs as the price is too damn good to pass on and I like the feel of the wider trigger. I'm considering jumping up to a G Hi-Speed trigger for the precision rig. View Quote |
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Slowly converting to MBT, trying hard to hold some in reserve for future builds but it's getting hard
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"Oh hell, go ahead and cancel, it's likely not about nuttin'."
I'm an advocate of the 3 chainsaw, two tractor, one wife, one God plan. |
Traded out the Timney 3lb for a Geissele hi speed national match.
Everything I'd read is true. Smooth and linear with a crisp break. I think I'll see the most benefit on longer shots 400yds+. |
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"History teaches us that men and nations behave wisely once they have exhausted all other alternatives."-Abba Eban
"I like it both ways, but still mainly mouth it" -gonzo_beyondo |
SD-E
I won't use anything else! |
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Originally Posted By Outrider:
I've long been a Geissele SSA fan for general trigger use. I also have a SSA-E in a precision rig that has been very good. I've picked up 3x LaRue MBTs as the price is too damn good to pass on and I like the feel of the wider trigger. I'm considering jumping up to a G Hi-Speed trigger for the precision rig. View Quote Thanks for letting us build you a few. ![]() "Meticulously Built Trigger shop" |
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I have been asked to point out that I am LaRue Tactical's owner.
My work has been used by tens of thousands of US Military personnel, and tens of thousands of civilian shooters - ML |
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