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Link Posted: 1/16/2021 9:22:56 PM EST
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Originally Posted By icecold1:



i ordered a go mango wide body scat pack with shaker hood, summer tires, carbon black rims, srt spoiler, harmon kardon stereo and nappa black seats. put the driver convenience and plus packages along with the auto transmission and navigation upgrade.

was sitting in a black one at the dealer, but just felt the need to go orange.

ill post pics once it arrives and i get the windows tinted.
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Interesting choice on the wheels - I like those standard wide body devils rims.
Link Posted: 1/16/2021 10:38:56 PM EST
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Originally Posted By shocktrp:


This asshole will show you;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ufMMb6SpRts
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That dude is stupid as fuck.
Link Posted: 1/16/2021 10:48:39 PM EST
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I am happy with the 275/40/20's on this. Makes a lot of difference.

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Link Posted: 1/16/2021 10:54:02 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Butternut:

Hellcat is king of the hill in my mind, do doubt. If I could have afforded it, I woulda got one, without doubt.

I might have posted this before, but here's an interesting article on the gearing for the NA 6.4 compared to the gearing for the SC 6.2.

neat R/T butt dyno article

( https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/a25271/fool-your-butt-dyno-for-fun-and-profit/ )

"Despite having 222 fewer horsepower than the Hellcat, the automatic Scat Pack briefly pulls harder in every one of its first five gears than the manual Hellcat does."

"It's the same in every other gear. The Scat Pack briefly accelerates harder and thus feels faster than the Hellcat. But because the Hellcat pulls hard for longer, it's ultimately the faster car."


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No joke, and I mentioned this a page ago, but my 1320 is more impressive on the street 0-60 than a WB Hellcat.  It just squats, hooks, and goes, all you have to do is put the suspension in drag mode, no futzing with launch control or trans brake.   Hellcat will still murder it in the end, obviously, but for stoplight fun, it's a beast.  Pulling solid mid-11 quarter times all over the country, stock (but usually sans seats) and on the factory tires ain't nothing to sneeze at.  115-117 trap speed, you can sneeze at that.  :)
Link Posted: 1/16/2021 11:10:02 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/16/2021 11:27:35 PM EST
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It should look like this
Link Posted: 1/16/2021 11:29:16 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/16/2021 11:33:00 PM EST
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When did they say they expected delivery - the beginning of April?
Link Posted: 1/16/2021 11:41:59 PM EST
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They are waiting on a build date but he expected it to be late April early may
Link Posted: 1/17/2021 3:50:17 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Butternut:

I've always LOVED the looks of those. Badass.
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Originally Posted By Hicksvilleshick:
Ok so mine isn't a challenger, but it's the same platform.
https://scontent-dfw5-2.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/66306088_10205842595299518_6663240648453259264_o.jpg?_nc_cat=100&ccb=2&_nc_sid=8bfeb9&_nc_ohc=xCkZC4u8kkQAX9zhBae&_nc_ht=scontent-dfw5-2.xx&oh=aca4fbfe58b8275899e53cbc5ad6d5c5&oe=602AEC4F


Catch can is a must. Direct injection is the reason. Granted I only have the 5.7 but a mid muffler delete is a good thing. More growl but not obnoxious or horribly loud. No drone with leaving the resonators in. You will however notice the DOD more.

I also put a diablo tune in mine. I've noticed a pretty significant change for the better, especially with the throttle boost.


I've always LOVED the looks of those. Badass.


As a former 2nd Gen Intrepid owner, I've always thought that the 300M line was underdeveloped for what Dodge could have done with it.
Link Posted: 1/17/2021 10:27:17 AM EST
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That is going to be an awesome car!!!
Link Posted: 1/17/2021 2:13:29 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/17/2021 3:15:48 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/17/2021 3:25:10 PM EST
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If your wheels can fit them, highly recommend the 295/35 DWS06. Fastest 0-60 is 4.1 so far

100x better than the stock 275 Pierelli

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Link Posted: 1/17/2021 3:34:47 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/17/2021 3:37:52 PM EST
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Looking to upgrade before my warranty is up....

Local dealer has this on the lot. Two things though. Not sure if I want to go from a Charger to a Challenger, and if I got a challenger, I really want the widebody. Plus all the blind spots with the challenger.

But F8 Green or the Grey with Orange brake calipers is what I really wanted.
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Link Posted: 1/17/2021 3:39:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Butternut:
IMHO, aside from that being performance you usually have to pay two or three times as much to get, it's really mind blowing cool, to me, when considering the mass and cargo capacity of the beast that they gracefully do that with.
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Originally Posted By RyanEsstac:
If your wheels can fit them, highly recommend the 295/35 DWS06. Fastest 0-60 is 4.1 so far

100x better than the stock 275 Pierelli

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/477522/Screenshot_20210117-122344_Gallery_jpg-1783740.JPG
IMHO, aside from that being performance you usually have to pay two or three times as much to get, it's really mind blowing cool, to me, when considering the mass and cargo capacity of the beast that they gracefully do that with.



I'd love to know the true potential if it didn't spin tires... aka I want to see a police package AWD with the 392 put into it.
Link Posted: 1/17/2021 3:44:23 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Butternut:

Nice, thank you. Ima Dodge nut now, but I don't know much about the 1320. Will consume it and off to youtube

ETA @shocktrp, that's badass. Now I get it. They sure did their homework on creating that rocket ship.
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Here's some people to follow;

https://www.youtube.com/c/RacerX9/videos A lot of Charger/Challenger content, and now he added a Mustang. Works with a lot of dealers to borrow cars for content.

https://www.youtube.com/user/ocmotivator/videos Mostly Hellcats

https://www.youtube.com/c/Scavenger1320/videos 1320 Guy

https://www.youtube.com/c/Destroyer1320/videos 1320 Guy

https://www.youtube.com/c/86face/videos RIPP supercharger guy turned 1320 guy

https://www.youtube.com/c/SchwayZ/videos Mopar Guy

https://www.youtube.com/c/Demonology/videos Demon guy that just races all the time
Link Posted: 1/17/2021 3:52:52 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/17/2021 3:53:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RyanEsstac:
Looking to upgrade before my warranty is up....

Local dealer has this on the lot. Two things though. Not sure if I want to go from a Charger to a Challenger, and if I got a challenger, I really want the widebody. Plus all the blind spots with the challenger.

But F8 Green or the Grey with Orange brake calipers is what I really wanted.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/477522/ac32716b9a7232b8852ff51aadf2a002_jpg-1783757.JPG
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How much time do you have before you need to make a decision?
Power dollars probably won't be back until March or April - right now the rebate on the Hellcar is only $6K instead of $7,170 (or $7,970 for the Redeye).

If you just want a wide body for looks, you can buy an aftermarket kit & rims/tires for less than the $6K difference in MSRP (& you's still have your regular rims/tires to sell to someone with a lower model.  
(You won't get the widebody suspension, but I don't even know what that is compared to the regular HC.)
Link Posted: 1/17/2021 3:53:50 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/17/2021 3:58:21 PM EST
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Originally Posted By shocktrp:


How much time do you have before you need to make a decision?
Power dollars probably won't be back until March or April - right now the rebate on the Hellcar is only $6K instead of $7,170 (or $7,970 for the Redeye).

If you just want a wide body for looks, you can buy an aftermarket kit & rims/tires for less than the $6K difference in MSRP (& you's still have your regular rims/tires to sell to someone with a lower model.  
(You won't get the widebody suspension, but I don't even know what that is compared to the regular HC.)
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Originally Posted By RyanEsstac:
Looking to upgrade before my warranty is up....

Local dealer has this on the lot. Two things though. Not sure if I want to go from a Charger to a Challenger, and if I got a challenger, I really want the widebody. Plus all the blind spots with the challenger.

But F8 Green or the Grey with Orange brake calipers is what I really wanted.
https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/477522/ac32716b9a7232b8852ff51aadf2a002_jpg-1783757.JPG


How much time do you have before you need to make a decision?
Power dollars probably won't be back until March or April - right now the rebate on the Hellcar is only $6K instead of $7,170 (or $7,970 for the Redeye).

If you just want a wide body for looks, you can buy an aftermarket kit & rims/tires for less than the $6K difference in MSRP (& you's still have your regular rims/tires to sell to someone with a lower model.  
(You won't get the widebody suspension, but I don't even know what that is compared to the regular HC.)


February 2022,

I want to trade in this year, as my 2018 SRT's bluebook value was 42,000 last November, the second it hit 2021 the value fell to 36-37,000.

Looking around its slim pickings on anything with a hellcat motor. My friend is trying to trade his trackhawk in for another and he can't find any either.

I'd prefer to buy a 2020, as I paid $45,000 for my 2018 SRT in 2019
Link Posted: 1/17/2021 4:11:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Butternut:
it's really mind blowing cool, to me, when considering the mass and cargo capacity of the beast that they gracefully do that with.
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I had a 10 foot section of PVC pipe in my car yesterday. Nothing sticking out of the window. No open trunk and still had about 2 foot more of room, with only the back seat down. Not many cars I know of that can do that, let alone a 2 door car, made today.
Link Posted: 1/17/2021 4:14:17 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/17/2021 4:29:40 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RyanEsstac:


February 2022,

I want to trade in this year, as my 2018 SRT's bluebook value was 42,000 last November, the second it hit 2021 the value fell to 36-37,000.

Looking around its slim pickings on anything with a hellcat motor. My friend is trying to trade his trackhawk in for another and he can't find any either.

I'd prefer to buy a 2020, as I paid $45,000 for my 2018 SRT in 2019
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We've got a used 2020 WB in stock, 2400 miles.  Triple Nickel with carbon stripes, auto, sunroof, red calipers, Alpine, suede.  We can ship to WA. :)
Link Posted: 1/17/2021 4:36:25 PM EST
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My neighbor does.  It’s pretty sweet.  She just added the gull / Lamborghini type doors.
Link Posted: 1/17/2021 7:17:26 PM EST
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I’ve found you can accelerate past what could be in your blind spot pretty easily.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 6:33:26 PM EST
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Now there's another one "around"...

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Link Posted: 1/23/2021 6:35:35 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/23/2021 6:51:07 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Butternut:

Dude, congratulations!  I freaking LOVE that color.  
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Thank you. The cell phone photos really don't do it justice. It's a stunning color when you see it in person.
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 6:55:05 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/23/2021 7:11:41 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Butternut:

Isn't there a beautiful, understated metallic flake in it? Just gorgeous.
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Thank you. The cell phone photos really don't do it justice. It's a stunning color when you see it in person.

Isn't there a beautiful, understated metallic flake in it? Just gorgeous.
Yes there is. Dodge calls it "Octane Red."
Link Posted: 1/23/2021 7:21:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TLWrench:
Yes there is. Dodge calls it "Octane Red."
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I swore a long time ago I would never own another red car - when I saw the Octane Red in the showroom I almost went with that instead of Hellraisin.
Link Posted: 1/30/2021 3:38:33 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/30/2021 4:14:25 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Butternut:
Gratuitous pic from today's out and about. We had beautiful, chilly, clear weather today. We may or may not have left some rubber ribbons somewhere.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/88366/thumbnail_20210130_141851-1803604.jpg

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Black Lines Matter...
Link Posted: 1/30/2021 4:56:40 PM EST
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Black Lines Matter...
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@shocktrp

Any update on the assembly plant getting back to work next week?
Link Posted: 1/30/2021 6:17:22 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Bosqueboy:


@shocktrp

Any update on the assembly plant getting back to work next week?
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Been looking, haven't seen anything.

I have my vin# from Dodge, but the links to see the sticker & build sheet still won't work for me (you copy this link into your browser, then add you vin at the end, after the = sign);

https://www.dodge.com/hostd/windowsticker/getWindowStickerPdf.do?vin=

https://www.dodge.com/webselfservice/BuildSheetServlet?vin=
Link Posted: 2/1/2021 8:42:54 AM EST
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Well, since the take rate (percentage of cars ordered) 5.7 manual cars is very low, it's sort of a non-issue.   The type of Challenger owner that wants a manual generally opts for the 6.4 (or 6.2).  

And even on the Scats the manual take rate is still low, despite having the highest take rate of any model variant from any manufacturer (where manual and auto are both available, so that doesn't count manual-only cars like, oh, a Civic Type R).
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Originally Posted By Stitches1974:


5.7 with a manual transmission requires premium.

Page 289 of the owner's manual:

5.7L Engine (With Manual Transmission)
Do not use E-85 flex fuel or ethanol blends
greater than 15% in this engine.
This engine is designed to meet all
emission regulations, provide optimal
fuel economy and performance when
using high-quality unleaded
“Premium” gasoline having a posted octane
number of 91 as specified by the (R+M)/2
method. The use of 91 or higher octane
“Premium” gasoline is required for this engine.
While operating on gasoline with the required
octane number, hearing a light knocking sound
from the engine is not a cause for concern.
However, if the engine is heard making a heavy
knocking sound, see your dealer immediately.
Use of gasoline with a lower than recommended
octane number can cause engine failure and
may void or not be covered by the New Vehicle
Limited Warranty.
Poor quality gasoline can cause problems such as
hard starting, stalling, and hesitations. If you experience these symptoms, try another brand of gasoline before considering service for the vehicle.



Well, since the take rate (percentage of cars ordered) 5.7 manual cars is very low, it's sort of a non-issue.   The type of Challenger owner that wants a manual generally opts for the 6.4 (or 6.2).  

And even on the Scats the manual take rate is still low, despite having the highest take rate of any model variant from any manufacturer (where manual and auto are both available, so that doesn't count manual-only cars like, oh, a Civic Type R).




We were just looking to add a manual to the stable to teach the kids, now that they're coming of age. The Ecoboost Mustang we test drove made more economical sense, but after the wife test drove the R/T I knew economics went out the window.
Link Posted: 2/3/2021 10:58:56 AM EST
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Anybody know if they reopened the factory on February 1st like they were supposed to?
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Anybody know if they reopened the factory on February 1st like they were supposed to?
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I did some poking and could not find any confirmation that it had. According to autoblog the plant was idled due to shortage of semiconductors.
Link Posted: 2/3/2021 12:15:08 PM EST
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I did some poking and could not find any confirmation that it had. According to autoblog the plant was idled due to shortage of semiconductors.
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Yes, they screwed us to keep the other lines open.

You would think that they would at least continue to process customer orders at all the plants, even if they only opened them for a couple of days each week.

I guess the upside to this is that the longer the plant is closed, the less are produced, & the more rare it becomes.
Link Posted: 2/3/2021 5:06:44 PM EST
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Link Posted: 2/3/2021 5:22:19 PM EST
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Are the hellcat lines closed too? I can't find any available, any my friend can't find a trackhawk either.
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So I called this number, the automated system wouldn't recognize my vin but once I got someone on the phone they could see it as "in production" & that the car is actually mine - but no code or other information.
My estimated ship date is now March 2nd (it was originally a delivery date the week of February 24th) but she said that could change & I should call back again next week.

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I also found this as a site to enter your vin (but mine still doesn't show up yet);

https://vin.infonavgenie.com/view2
Link Posted: 2/3/2021 5:30:08 PM EST
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Originally Posted By RyanEsstac:
Are the hellcat lines closed too? I can't find any available, any my friend can't find a trackhawk either.
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SRT Challenger & Charger are at this plant.

Jeep is built somewhere else.
Link Posted: 2/3/2021 7:07:53 PM EST
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SRT Challenger & Charger are at this plant.

Jeep is built somewhere else.
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Grand Cherokees and Durangos come out of the Jefferson North plant in Detroit
Link Posted: 2/3/2021 10:46:47 PM EST
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SRT Challenger & Charger are at this plant.

Jeep is built somewhere else.
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What are you having built?
Link Posted: 2/3/2021 10:47:36 PM EST
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What are you having built?
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Challenger 1320.
Link Posted: 2/3/2021 11:59:10 PM EST
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Challenger 1320.
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Nice! I am on my second one
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