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Link Posted: 11/3/2024 7:11:14 PM EST
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Originally Posted By 545days:
Whatever we could find that fit a Fiat X1/9.  They aren't special pads.  We should have changed them Saturday night now that we rebuilt the engine and have just enough power to really use the brakes.

Back when the engine was 40 psi low on compression brake pads lasted two or three races.
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Carbotech or GLoc probably have the pattern for pads for the car. Worst case if they don’t is get some new pads or used pads that the backing plates are good on still and send off to them and have compound cut to fit. If y’all aren’t using a good track compound it’ll make a ton of difference. Same with good fluid (which I’m sure you are)
Link Posted: 11/3/2024 8:20:31 PM EST
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That just looks like a ton of fun.

I can't wait to see your results after a brake upgrade. That should be huge for you guys.
Link Posted: 11/3/2024 10:06:57 PM EST
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I've been reading about these races for years in Car and Driver magazine. Did they have an entry in this race?
Link Posted: 11/4/2024 8:15:13 AM EST
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Looks like a blast!
Link Posted: 11/9/2024 12:39:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Gopher:
I've been reading about these races for years in Car and Driver magazine. Did they have an entry in this race?
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Not that I am aware of.  Jay Lamm, the guy who started the 24 Hours of Lemons was an automotive journalist.  They hold about 23 races each year, and my guess is that the magazine probably only participates in a few.  They usually have a separate class for automotive journalists. I'm not sure why.
Link Posted: 11/9/2024 2:59:13 PM EST
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Originally Posted By redfish86:
Looks like a blast!
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Yes it is.  I highly recommend it to anyone interested in racing who is not made of money.  Racing is expensive but splitting a car with 3 or 4 other guys makes it manageable.  A team of 5 guys probably spends about $1,900 each to get themselves and a car ready (not including race entry fees and expenses)  assuming that no one owns anything they need.

First the personal gear.  About $700 for the most basic set of SFI or FIA rated double layer fireproof racing suit (or single layer plus fireproof underwear), SA rated helmet 2020 or later (motorcycle helmets are a no go) and SFI or GIA rated gloves, socks, and boots.  Lemons sells a basic set up here
(as well as nicer ones) If you are really close friends you can share gear, but it gets really sweaty, and I wouldn't do it.  They do a gear inspection at every race and check for the "gear OK" sticker on the driver's helmet every time a car enters the track.

If you are building a car, assuming that nobody knows how to weld, figure roughly $6k which includes
$500 for the car
$450 fire suppression system
$250 SFI and FIA rated harness
$600 racing seat (the cheap ABS seats are not OK.)
$3,000 to pay someone to build your roll cage (I guessed at this)
You will want to replace the tires, brakes and wheel bearings, and change the oil and coolant in your beater.  You can do all this cheaper if you about scour Craigslist or Racingjunk.com for deals.

That gets you ready.  Next are the costs for each race.  From the Lemons website:
Entry: On-time entry is $1755 per team (includes one car and up to four drivers; additional drivers $245 each, additional crew $75 each), effective 1/1/2024. Entry fee covers registration, track time, paddock pass, track insurance, on-site ambulance crew, and anything else we come up with by then. Non-driving crew members get all the same bennies except track time.

Each driver must also have a valid Lemons Competition Membership, which is $100.

Spectator tickets are generally available for $40/weekend, and kids under 16 are free.


The Lemons competition membership is simply a $100 fee payable once per driver, per year.  If we assume 5 drivers, your first race will cost $495 each to enter.

Lastly comes the cost to get to and from the track, and for expendables such as fuel, oil, miscellaneous Walmart and Autozone trips during the race, etc.  You can usually camp at the track (typically $50 to $75) per team in my experience, or pay for a hotel.  Lots of people camp at the track.

All in all, it's not cheap, but for a destination vacation experience is still a pretty good value.
Link Posted: 11/10/2024 9:50:49 AM EST
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I should look into this. I have a lot of spare parts and a car I don't need.
Link Posted: 11/10/2024 11:10:10 AM EST
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Link Posted: 11/10/2024 12:12:26 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TexCorriente:
@545days

Great writeup, that's the best rundown I've seen

Any DFW/North Texas guys: if anybody is interested in forming an ARF team, I have a stripped and caged (Lemons spec by a legit cage builder) 1972 Mercury Comet. I have some other important bits already, like a Kirkey seat and Wilwood front brakes. I'm short on time and know-how, though.
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A former Miata owner has to be interested in road racing.  Even if he would be racing a Mercury Comet.
Link Posted: 11/10/2024 12:36:35 PM EST
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