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Posted: 10/20/2021 10:13:07 AM EDT
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Not a beast, a decent light duty mixer.
A beast can knead 55% hydration dough for 10 minutes without requiring gear replacement. Sounds like an excellent deal, though. |
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Posted: 10/20/2021 10:23:45 AM EDT
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Calling it a beast was mostly intended to call attention to it's place in the Kitchenaid stand mixer line up. I agree that it's not in the same league as dedicated dough mixers. I think it'll do just fine with a two kilo load of 70% hydration dough.
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Posted: 10/23/2021 2:37:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think it'll do just fine with a two kilo load of 70% hydration dough. If you don't have one get a Dough Whisk. Use that by hand to get the dough to come together. Then put the hook on the mixer to kneed. 
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Posted: 10/23/2021 2:49:35 PM EDT
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Damn, them bitches be expensive!
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Posted: 10/23/2021 3:02:02 PM EDT
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Note: Those do not fit under some cabinets sitting on a countertop.
Also they are not a as tough as you would think, the gears are not super strong. I have one that has been used pretty gently and fairly infrequently and it is starting to act like it is starting to fail. |
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Posted: 10/23/2021 3:12:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not, those do not fit under some cabinets sitting on a countertop. Also they are not a as tough as you would think, the gears are not super strong. I have one that has been used pretty gently and fairly infrequently and it is starting to act like it is starting to fail. The failure point is the cheap to replace weak link that will break before the expensive bits do. You can buy replacement one's easily and replacing them isn't hard to do. |
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Posted: 10/23/2021 3:15:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The failure point is the cheap to replace weak link that will break before the expensive bits do. You can buy replacement one's easily and replacing them isn't hard to do. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Not, those do not fit under some cabinets sitting on a countertop. Also they are not a as tough as you would think, the gears are not super strong. I have one that has been used pretty gently and fairly infrequently and it is starting to act like it is starting to fail. The failure point is the cheap to replace weak link that will break before the expensive bits do. You can buy replacement one's easily and replacing them isn't hard to do. |
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Posted: 10/23/2021 3:49:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The failure point is the cheap to replace weak link that will break before the expensive bits do. You can buy replacement one's easily and replacing them isn't hard to do. I bought a Haussler spiral mixer for dough, the Kitchen Aid does the lighter duty tasks. |
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Posted: 10/23/2021 7:24:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Been there, done that. I bought a Haussler spiral mixer for dough, the Kitchen Aid does the lighter duty tasks. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The failure point is the cheap to replace weak link that will break before the expensive bits do. You can buy replacement one's easily and replacing them isn't hard to do. I bought a Haussler spiral mixer for dough, the Kitchen Aid does the lighter duty tasks. I just looked those up. For $2500 and up I think I'll run the kitchenaid for a while and replace the $20 sacrificial gear when it breaks. |
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Posted: 10/23/2021 7:30:59 PM EDT
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Find an Ankarsrum Assistant. Awesome bread dough mixed, bit more expensive than the KA, but it's well worth it.
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Posted: 10/23/2021 8:06:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Find an Ankarsrum Assistant. Awesome bread dough mixed, bit more expensive than the KA, but it's well worth it. The Assistant never felt like it was struggling, never sounded like it was on the verge of stripping gear teeth. It wasn't the best at kneading as fairly often a big lump of dough would go round and round with the spring loaded roller just riding over the top. I experimented with the scraper in and out, varied the position of the roller. Most times I would just stand by the mixer and manually mash the dough with the roller with each revolution. Quality machine. |
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Posted: 10/23/2021 8:10:56 PM EDT
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FWIW I run my KA Pro600 mixer we procured in 2010 really hard. I make homemade egg noodles in it (mix the dough) which is a really, really low hydration dough. Plus a lot of baking of breads and pastries. My wife made/sold cakes for several years and used it to make her own buttercream (really hard on a mixer because of the load at high speed).
Every few years I dismantle the gearbox, clean old grease out and lubricate with new grease. So far zero issues and no signs of wear on any gears. IIRC, it does not have any plastic gears but I can't recall for sure. |
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Posted: 10/23/2021 11:42:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I just looked those up. For $2500 and up I think I'll run the kitchenaid for a while and replace the $20 sacrificial gear when it breaks. |
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Posted: 10/24/2021 3:39:42 PM EDT
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I've got one of the bowl lift and it is one of my most valuable kitchen tools. I have the meat grinder and pasta roller attachments as well, which work great. It actually permanently sits on my counter, I use it so much its not worth heaving that heavy thing around more than I have to lol.
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Posted: 10/25/2021 4:10:29 PM EDT
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The bowl lift commercial models are a pain in the balls to use. Tilt mixer is more better.
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Posted: 10/25/2021 4:13:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The bowl lift commercial models are a pain in the balls to use. Tilt mixer is more better. I think the tilt models have a reputation of not holding up as well as the bowl lift type. |
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Posted: 10/25/2021 4:24:03 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I think the tilt models have a reputation of not holding up as well as the bowl lift type. Mine is an old one and has metal gears. I have used it extensively to mix bread doughs, run a meat grinder, and pasta attachments. Bad rep came from being cheap with production, and it probably crossed the lineup of all models. This probably coincided with a change from US production to overseas. There are a lot of different price points due to gearbox and motor ratings. When I picked mine, they all looked the same, except for the wattage rating. |
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Posted: 10/25/2021 6:06:06 PM EDT
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That is true, we have one at work that must be 20 years old and it was all they used before they got a big Hobart. In fact, when one of the Chefs broke the Hobart I had to use the Kitchenaid and batch everything out for two weeks until they got it fixed. The old girl did just fine though.
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Posted: 10/25/2021 6:33:18 PM EDT
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Chinese stand mixer, the gear mechanism is designed & built to last about 2 years of lite use.
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Posted: 10/25/2021 6:44:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The ones with the bad rep had plastic gears. Some were recalled. Mine is an old one and has metal gears. I have used it extensively to mix bread doughs, run a meat grinder, and pasta attachments. Bad rep came from being cheap with production, and it probably crossed the lineup of all models. This probably coincided with a change from US production to overseas. There are a lot of different price points due to gearbox and motor ratings. When I picked mine, they all looked the same, except for the wattage rating. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I think the tilt models have a reputation of not holding up as well as the bowl lift type. The ones with the bad rep had plastic gears. Some were recalled. Mine is an old one and has metal gears. I have used it extensively to mix bread doughs, run a meat grinder, and pasta attachments. Bad rep came from being cheap with production, and it probably crossed the lineup of all models. This probably coincided with a change from US production to overseas. There are a lot of different price points due to gearbox and motor ratings. When I picked mine, they all looked the same, except for the wattage rating. Ah, that probably explains it. I will say the tilts are a bit easier to put attachments on and off. |
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Posted: 10/25/2021 6:50:56 PM EDT
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I have an older Pro version (metal gears)
when I sold off almost everything I owned, this was not one of those things sold. I probably don't need it anymore, as with a kid, as they are awesome for bulk baking/making stuff. |
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Posted: 10/25/2021 7:11:02 PM EDT
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My daughter bought the mint green one. She uses it so much we just leave it on the counter like one poster above, does.
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Posted: 10/25/2021 7:27:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not a beast, a decent light duty mixer. A beast can knead 55% hydration dough for 10 minutes without requiring gear replacement. Sounds like an excellent deal, though. I'm not used to doing the math, but let's see... I generally do 2 loaves at a time, so I'm putting in 968 grams of flour and 644 grams of water, whatever percent that is. I generally let it beat for 5+ minutes per batch. I do single batches quite regularly, and at times do two batches back-to-back. My Kitchenaid 600 series gets warm, but has never had trouble doing that. I'm guessing by the $529 price point OP is quoting that he is getting a 600 series as well. |
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Posted: 10/25/2021 7:58:17 PM EDT
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I use my KA pro(Costco) pretty frequently, mostly pizza dough and grinding meat for burgers.
It’s been trouble free |
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Posted: 10/25/2021 8:24:49 PM EDT
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Bought a KA Refurb Stand Mixer Pro 6Qt in 2007 for $249. Have quite a few attachments for it, like pasta maker, etc. It's still working great. I'm sure some day I will need to replace the gears, but seems like an easy job.
Good luck, OP. Good Deal. My refurb warranty was the same as NIB was. |
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Posted: 10/25/2021 8:50:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm not used to doing the math, but let's see... I generally do 2 loaves at a time, so I'm putting in 968 grams of flour and 644 grams of water, whatever percent that is. I generally let it beat for 5+ minutes per batch. I do single batches quite regularly, and at times do two batches back-to-back. My Kitchenaid 600 series gets warm, but has never had trouble doing that. I'm guessing by the $529 price point OP is quoting that he is getting a 600 series as well. Yes, it’s a 600 series. It came yesterday and it looks brand new. Your hydration is about 66.5%. |
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Posted: 10/28/2021 1:40:15 AM EDT
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Christmas 2019 on amazon I picked up a nib lift bowl kitchenaid professional HD series 5qt stand mixer for $211.14 shipped.
I figured for the price I cant beat it, at the time before the sale price it was a $500-$600 mixer. I double checked to be sure it was not a refurb, and it was not, its was a NIB one. |
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Posted: 10/29/2021 7:52:58 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/29/2021 8:57:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/29/2021 10:51:47 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/29/2021 4:57:31 PM EDT
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Wheres a good place to get attachments, as well as are there any after market attachments that work as good as or better than kitchenaid?
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Posted: 10/30/2021 1:14:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWife said Sam's is gonna have it for $269 starting Nov 1. |
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Posted: 10/30/2021 5:30:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/30/2021 6:26:10 PM EDT
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I bought the refurb KP26M1 a year ago, use it all the time. good choice.
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Posted: 10/30/2021 6:29:59 PM EDT
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My biggest problem right now is I am having great success on my keto/low carb diet.
 Now that it is getting cooler I don't mind making a loaf or two every now and then to warm up the kitchen. |
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Posted: 10/30/2021 6:37:36 PM EDT
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My wife stole mine in the divorce. Bitch.
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Posted: 10/30/2021 10:45:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My wife stole mine in the divorce. Bitch. |
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Posted: 11/5/2021 3:02:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wife said Sam's is gonna have it for $269 starting Nov 1. The holiday sale flyer says it'll ( the professional 5 plus) be $259 for a few days starting November 6th. It'll sellout fast. Kitchenaid's website just had the professional 5 for $219.99, brand new in limited colors. The one from Sam's has an additional 3 qt. SS bowl, the one from Kitchenaid does not. I returned the refurbed pro 600 on their nickle and ordered the new pro 5 & used the 10% off coupon code I got from buying the refurb to get another $22 off. The out the door price for the new one was $217.29 which includes the 9.75% Tennessee sales tax. |
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Posted: 11/5/2021 10:38:17 PM EDT
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Kitchenaid has a commercial stand mixer that is a beast. I have one and can highly recommend it. I sold my Hobart 10 qt after I got the Kitchenaid. Model 8990, NSF approved. A little pricey but a buy once, cry once purchase.
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Posted: 11/6/2021 9:38:18 AM EDT
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I wonder if the all-metal gears in that model would fit in the consumer branded model. Is the casing the same?
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Posted: 11/7/2021 1:19:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I wonder if the all-metal gears in that model would fit in the consumer branded model. Is the casing the same? eta: same hp |
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Posted: 11/21/2021 5:42:10 PM EDT
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I used mine a few days ago to mix a chocolate cake batter using the wire whisk. Not much of a challenge for the mixer although I did have to scrape the side of the bowl with a silicone spatula. The main advantage is it doesn't sling batter all over like a hand mixer does.
Today I used it to mix a 4 pound batch of 75% hydration bread dough using the dough hook. No problems at all, the machine barely got warm to the touch. |
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Posted: 11/22/2021 10:32:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Wheres a good place to get attachments, as well as are there any after market attachments that work as good as or better than kitchenaid? I've bought all my attachments off of Facebook Market Place. People buy it never use it and sell it cheap. I haven't paid more than 50% of new price. |
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Posted: 12/11/2021 7:38:14 PM EDT
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What do y’all think about the 7qt bowl lifts?
Looks like they take the same bowls as the smaller ones, so you don’t need to use all 7qt. The magic is that according the the KA website, the 7 is 1.3hp, where the smaller ones are like 5/8hp. Seems like a big jump, and if we really only use a 5qt bowl, it should last forever. |
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