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Posted: 1/22/2024 9:47:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Marie: Remember my friend that died at Cow last year? Here’s the report. https://nsscds.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Cow-Springs-2023.1.7.pdf @Marie So sorry about your friend. That's very sad, the report was well written and presented in a manner that was both well versed in the aspects of cave diving as well as presenting all of the findings in an objective manner (especially for a non-cave diver such as myself). Unfortunately, I am all to aware of incidents (non-diving) that while some had better outcomes (non-fatal), need to be dispersed to the community (in this case cave divers) so they can learn from what happened. In any type of accident, it's usually not one single "thing" but a cascading effect of small things that become insurmountable or unrecoverable. |
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Posted: 1/22/2024 10:17:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jpk33: @Marie So sorry about your friend. That's very sad, the report was well written and presented in a manner that was both well versed in the aspects of cave diving as well as presenting all of the findings in an objective manner (especially for a non-cave diver such as myself). Unfortunately, I am all to aware of incidents (non-diving) that while some had better outcomes (non-fatal), need to be dispersed to the community (in this case cave divers) so they can learn from what happened. In any type of accident, it's usually not one single "thing" but a cascading effect of small things that become insurmountable or unrecoverable. Yes. This sort of accident analysis is common in cave/tech diving. |
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Posted: 1/24/2024 11:33:54 AM EDT
[Last Edit: floridahunter07]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Marie: Remember my friend that died at Cow last year? Here’s the report. https://nsscds.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/Cow-Springs-2023.1.7.pdf That was sad to read. My own close-call was at Cow on the downstream side, so reading that part about how your friend was still a three minute swim from the entry point hit kind of close to home - I was only about 20-30 feet back in the DS side of the cave when I inhaled all that water and the thought did cross my mind at how unbelievably stupid it was that this might be where it ended for me, if I didn't relax and fix the problem. As for the analysis report... it would be nice if they were released sooner. I know this is highly contested but no one is ever really able to give me an actual good reason why the IUCRR side of the house can't release their notes once the death investigation is closed, along with a copy of what is a public record investigative report... it's always some mystical "it will cause legal trouble" hysteria. |
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Posted: 1/24/2024 2:06:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By floridahunter07: That was sad to read. My own close-call was at Cow on the downstream side, so reading that part about how your friend was still a three minute swim from the entry point hit kind of close to home - I was only about 20-30 feet back in the DS side of the cave when I inhaled all that water and the thought did cross my mind at how unbelievably stupid it was that this might be where it ended for me, if I didn't relax and fix the problem. As for the analysis report... it would be nice if they were released sooner. I know this is highly contested but no one is ever really able to give me an actual good reason why the IUCRR side of the house can't release their notes once the death investigation is closed, along with a copy of what is a public record investigative report... it's always some mystical "it will cause legal trouble" hysteria. Yikes! |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 11:24:53 AM EDT
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 Cabinsite Cove Lake Mead National Recreation Area Lake Mohave Water temp 53º Air temp 47º |
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Posted: 2/8/2024 12:38:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By floridahunter07: https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53515824522_b063bfeb09_b.jpg Cabinsite Cove Lake Mead National Recreation Area Lake Mohave Water temp 53º Air temp 47º Awesome photo!! |
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Posted: 3/3/2024 9:27:29 PM EDT
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Got to binge on all things Great Lakes shipwreck related this weekend at an event in WI, put on by the group I’m secretary of. Had a great time, saw lots of folks I’ve not see in a while. Made dive plans for the s7mmer.
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Posted: 3/6/2024 12:17:39 AM EDT
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I did a 51 minute solo dive at Blue Heron Bridge today (wife was within 2 hours of the area for work so I came to visit)... I've seen reports for a week of Portuguese man-o-war jellyfish being spotted all around BHB and came to see them for myself... didn't find any. :(
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Posted: 3/30/2024 7:09:24 PM EDT
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Spent just about $300 on o2 sensors. I’ll be diving in about a month. Yay!
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Posted: 4/15/2024 1:27:12 AM EDT
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Should be going out to Buford on Wednesday. Might do Hudson Grotto on Thursday as well, not sure yet. I'd planned on possibly doing Ginnie Tuesday (in lieu of Hudson) but my friend asked me to pick up some airport runs his business is overflowing with this week, so I may go make instead of spend money. Haven't been in the water since that dive at Blue Heron, and before that it was probably February 7th?
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Posted: 5/13/2024 9:05:47 PM EDT
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Finally get back into the water Saturday.
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Posted: 5/30/2024 7:04:27 AM EDT
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Had a bad O2 sensor - mfg had a bad batch. So I didn’t dive two week ago. Finally getting wet this weekend.
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Posted: 6/3/2024 12:34:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Marie]
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Didn’t dive this weekend as I didn’t feel well.
Might be selling the CCR. Knees are the reason. I have a lighter BM unit, but still too much for my knees. I hurt all the time. I got this to wreck dive, but I can’t get up the ladder with it. My wreck diving is greatly limited. There’s one boat on the Great Lakes with a lift, but it’s in MI. Talked to my instructor and she said to think about it more. I don’t doubt it would be sold to one of her students or friend of a current student. |
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Posted: 6/3/2024 6:23:00 PM EDT
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Knee replacement in your future?
Everyone I know that's had it, including my mother, has said it was the best thing they've done for themselves. |
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Posted: 6/3/2024 7:54:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FB41: Knee replacement in your future? Everyone I know that's had it, including my mother, has said it was the best thing they've done for themselves. Not at this point. Plus I live alone and my insurance won’t cover me being in rehab for weeks. |
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Posted: Yesterday 1:50:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Marie: Not at this point. Plus I live alone and my insurance won’t cover me being in rehab for weeks. Can you do some type of home rehab with that or do you basically have to be in a facility? |
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Posted: Yesterday 8:08:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: FB41]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Marie: Not at this point. Plus I live alone and my insurance won’t cover me being in rehab for weeks. A friend just had her left knee replaced last month; she was walking on it the next day, albeit with the aid of a walker. Rehab was 2 trips to an outpatient facility and once she learned what she needed to do, she did it at home and just did follow-up appointments with the ortho doc. |
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Posted: Yesterday 8:27:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By floridahunter07: Can you do some type of home rehab with that or do you basically have to be in a facility? The issue is that I live alone and have no one to help me at home. Insurance won’t pay for any at home household help. It’s not the rehab as no help at home for domestic stuff. |
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