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Posted: 8/18/2024 4:34:45 PM EDT
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Ive been holding off buying a bambu P1S because I wanted to wait for their large format, but the lawsuit has me a little nervous about availability in the future.
My main interest is ABS since I only ever ever dabbled with PLA on my Ender 5+ and CR10s pro because of the work involved in making them capable of doing stronger materials. Do you guys think I should hold off or just bite the bullet? Main use would be printing gun stuff, RC car parts, and random household items. |
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Posted: 8/18/2024 5:56:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nsw8148: Ive been holding off buying a bambu P1S because I wanted to wait for their large format, but the lawsuit has me a little nervous about availability in the future. My main interest is ABS since I only ever ever dabbled with PLA on my Ender 5+ and CR10s pro because of the work involved in making them capable of doing stronger materials. Do you guys think I should hold off or just bite the bullet? Main use would be printing gun stuff, RC car parts, and random household items. I'd buy now. But I'd opt for the X1C. |
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Posted: 8/18/2024 6:19:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -Obsessed-: I'd buy now. But I'd opt for the X1C. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -Obsessed-: Originally Posted By nsw8148: Ive been holding off buying a bambu P1S because I wanted to wait for their large format, but the lawsuit has me a little nervous about availability in the future. My main interest is ABS since I only ever ever dabbled with PLA on my Ender 5+ and CR10s pro because of the work involved in making them capable of doing stronger materials. Do you guys think I should hold off or just bite the bullet? Main use would be printing gun stuff, RC car parts, and random household items. I'd buy now. But I'd opt for the X1C. I was able to add a bunch of filament, accessories, shipping to Alaska, and still come out at less than an X1. |
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Posted: 8/19/2024 1:36:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: slappomatt]
[#4]
I'm also kind of curious. seems to me the p1 made the x series mostly obsolete. X1 has lidar, a better screen and a better camera. what else is there?
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Posted: 8/19/2024 2:00:23 AM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slappomatt: I'm also kind of curious. seems to me the p1 made the x series mostly obsolete. X1 has lidar, a better screen and a better camera. what else is there? Print failure detection |
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MN, USA
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Posted: 8/19/2024 2:17:37 AM EDT
[#6]
I want to like the A1, but nother open air bedslingers just doesn't do anything for me these days.
Switchwire > A1 But I like klipper these days. |
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Posted: 8/19/2024 9:39:59 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nsw8148: Is it really worth twice the price? I'm not broke, but still operating on a budget and the cursory looking I did didnt seem worth it. I was able to add a bunch of filament, accessories, shipping to Alaska, and still come out at less than an X1. Biggest thing for me was it can auto calibrate more using the LIDAR. It can calculate K Values automatically and do a K Value calculation before every print. You can calculate them manually but I've found that K values can shift a bit roll to roll and amount of moisture in the roll impacts K Value as well. So I have started calibrating K Value before every print. Only X1C does that. I also like the screen a lot better. Easier for printing and modifying settings on screen. You can swap filaments on the AMS visually, you can more easily skip failed parts mid print, etc etc. It also comes with hardened extruder gears, vs needing to be upgraded. |
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Posted: 8/19/2024 9:53:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -Obsessed-: Biggest thing for me was it can auto calibrate more using the LIDAR. It can calculate K Values automatically and do a K Value calculation before every print. You can calculate them manually but I've found that K values can shift a bit roll to roll and amount of moisture in the roll impacts K Value as well. So I have started calibrating K Value before every print. What built plate(s) are you using. I have not been doing calibration since switching to the textured PEI plate. |
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Posted: 8/19/2024 9:59:11 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mPisi: What built plate(s) are you using. I have not been doing calibration since switching to the textured PEI plate. I have a smooth PEI for original calculations. Lately I've been doing calibrations on the fly on a textured plate. It cautions against doing that but I've had zero issues and find the models still to be accurate. That said I'm using a 0.6mm nozzle. If I was using a 0.4 I may just have to either use smooth PEI all the time or accept that I can calibrate on smooth and translate over to the textured and trust that K Values are staying consistent. |
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Posted: 8/19/2024 10:26:56 PM EDT
[#10]
My lidar has been non functional for a couple of weeks.
All the filament I have on hand is already calibrated, so I keep forgetting to look into it again. IMHO manually calibrated filament prints slightly better, but as stated, it does drift with open time. It's really nice to throw a new spool on for a quickie print and not worry about calibration. At work we run a p1s. It's always running polymaker petg, and I've never recalibrate between spools. (Same with the mk4 and xmax3) |
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Posted: 8/20/2024 1:20:16 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Keekleberrys: Print failure detection 
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Posted: 8/20/2024 1:39:10 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slappomatt: but bambu never fail. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slappomatt: Originally Posted By Keekleberrys: Print failure detection Not when im in charge! I specialize in messing stuff up.
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Posted: 8/22/2024 8:51:02 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Tholo: My lidar has been non functional for a couple of weeks. All the filament I have on hand is already calibrated, so I keep forgetting to look into it again. IMHO manually calibrated filament prints slightly better, but as stated, it does drift with open time. It's really nice to throw a new spool on for a quickie print and not worry about calibration. At work we run a p1s. It's always running polymaker petg, and I've never recalibrate between spools. (Same with the mk4 and xmax3) Not sure if this will link correctly... |
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Posted: 8/23/2024 1:41:26 PM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By nsw8148: Is it really worth twice the price? I'm not broke, but still operating on a budget and the cursory looking I did didnt seem worth it. I was able to add a bunch of filament, accessories, shipping to Alaska, and still come out at less than an X1. My opinion.....no it's not worth it. Idgaf about the screen, I use the app or control through my computer anyways. I'm considering getting a P1S just to do my engineering filaments. Not gonna bother with the AMS on that machine. |
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MT, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 1:49:33 PM EDT
[#15]
Got my P1S set up last night. This thing is a friggin' incredible!! Coming from an old Ender 3 and an Ender 3 S1 Pro, the difference is just mind blowing. What would have been a 15 hour print on the Enders is a 5 hour print on the Bambu. I also ordered the hardened steel hot end and it will be here some time next week.
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Posted: 8/25/2024 1:54:21 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Midyew5959: Got my P1S set up last night. This thing is a friggin' incredible!! Coming from an old Ender 3 and an Ender 3 S1 Pro, the difference is just mind blowing. What would have been a 15 hour print on the Enders is a 5 hour print on the Bambu. I also ordered the hardened steel hot end and it will be here some time next week. |
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MT, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2024 1:57:34 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K1rodeoboater: You will need the hardened extruder gear too if you want to print with abrasives. Yes, I also got that as well. 
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Posted: 8/26/2024 12:23:59 AM EDT
[#18]
mine showed up. ( heat treated stuff) havent put it in yet. printed some matte OD green stuff today for my RC crawler. I noticed some weird loose strands while it was printing. let it finish and it looks ok. peeled it off the plate and discovered the part I printed (from thingiverse. didnt really look at it) had 2 spots of flat fully unsupported print about 1.5" long. looks like a mess of spiderwebs on the bottom but the top if smooth and its usable. blew my mind. Ender never would have done that. lol.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 8/27/2024 5:25:43 PM EDT
[#19]
I'm about to pull the trigger on a P1S, but can it print without being connected to the internet?
Does it need to be connected to the Bambu Labs cloud? Can you put files on an SD card and load them directly to the printer? Thx |
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Posted: 8/27/2024 5:42:28 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rainmaker9: I'm about to pull the trigger on a P1S, but can it print without being connected to the internet? Does it need to be connected to the Bambu Labs cloud? Can you put files on an SD card and load them directly to the printer? Thx Yes. No. Yes. |
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Posted: 8/27/2024 8:35:59 PM EDT
[#21]
I'm sure all the above is true but you want to use their stuff unless you really have your tin foil on tight. the screen sucks and its so well setup with their app or software.
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Posted: 8/27/2024 8:37:07 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slappomatt: I'm sure all the above is true but you want to use their stuff unless you really have your tin foil on tight. the screen sucks and its so well setup with their app or software. For what it's worth I don't disagree with you.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 8/28/2024 3:52:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: rainmaker9]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slappomatt: I'm sure all the above is true but you want to use their stuff unless you really have your tin foil on tight. the screen sucks and its so well setup with their app or software. Thanks! My workshop is too far from the house wifi. I'll probably run a Cat6 line or booster to feed it. |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 4:32:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slappomatt: I'm sure all the above is true but you want to use their stuff unless you really have your tin foil on tight. the screen sucks and its so well setup with their app or software. We need some 3d models saying "Taiwan #1", Xi as Winnie the Pooh, "mandate of heaven", and other forbidden memes in China. Print those first and they'll put you on a blacklist to not monitor? Or just brick your Bambu, one or the other. Or send a command to do max heating without kill switches, burn down your house. OK we'll call it a draw. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 8/28/2024 6:40:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By slappomatt: I'm sure all the above is true but you want to use their stuff unless you really have your tin foil on tight. the screen sucks and its so well setup with their app or software. There are screen upgrades. Here ya go.  Panda Touch - Screen Upgrade for Bambu Lab P1P/S  xtouch Bambu Lab P1P/P1S touch screen upgrade guide |
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Posted: 8/28/2024 9:20:36 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gtfoxy: There are screen upgrades. Here ya go.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9p361eqZmo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Av64TRznlI |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 8/28/2024 9:57:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: gtfoxy]
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K1rodeoboater: Stupid use of money IMHO but you do you boo boo Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K1rodeoboater: Originally Posted By gtfoxy: There are screen upgrades. Here ya go. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9p361eqZmo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Av64TRznlIWow, such edge. I have an X1C, so…. I’m good. |
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Posted: 8/29/2024 12:56:21 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gtfoxy: Wow, such edge. I have an X1C, so . I'm good. It's not edge, it's looking at the numbers. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 8/30/2024 6:36:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: gtfoxy]
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K1rodeoboater: Add up the cost of the upgraydds ans you start to quickly close the gap of the X1C. Panda touch has some legit uses for a print farm, but most folks have one printer so it's not super useful. The slicer integration, so long as the printer is connected to WiFi (even in LAN only mode) make the need for those devices moot. It's not edge, it's looking at the numbers. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K1rodeoboater: Originally Posted By gtfoxy: Wow, such edge. I have an X1C, so . I'm good. It's not edge, it's looking at the numbers. Not disagreeing with the assessment, as I would tend to agree, it came across as snarky when all I was doing is being supportive pointing out he has options if he didn’t like the control panel. He just bought it so the option to buy an X1 to begin with is out the window. Hell, it took him long enough to come to terms with a P1’s price to actually pull the trigger. So at this point all I can do is work with where people are at & be supportive with their decisions even though I, when in the same position, chose differently. There are times I like the additional functionality, & navigation, of the X1 display. So for those already with a P1, it’s an option to gain that functionality that I appreciate. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 2:17:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: slappomatt]
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rainmaker9: Thanks! My workshop is too far from the house wifi. I'll probably run a Cat6 line or booster to feed it. |
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MT, USA
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Posted: 9/1/2024 12:54:59 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K1rodeoboater: Stupid use of money IMHO but you do you boo boo I just bought the Xtouch module for less than $4.00. I've spent much more on much worse. |
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USA
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Posted: 9/1/2024 6:00:49 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mPisi: We need some 3d models saying "Taiwan #1", Xi as Winnie the Pooh, "mandate of heaven", and other forbidden memes in China. Print those first and they'll put you on a blacklist to not monitor? Or just brick your Bambu, one or the other. Or send a command to do max heating without kill switches, burn down your house. OK we'll call it a draw. All this stuff about the cloud and Chinese servers is way overblown. The handy app and the ability to control the printer from outside the local LAN is a choice. It is convenient and adds functionality but as Obsessed pointed out you can set it for LAN access only. Even if you have the cloud enabled for machine control and notifications if you use a micro SD card in the unit as long as you are on your local LAN. you can send directly to the card and bypass the cloud upload of your data entirely. |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 9:48:23 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -Obsessed-: Windex is a release agent. PETG sticks so well you can damage the plate. Wndex allows the print to come off after cooling but not so well that it comes off when heated. I use a paper towel and spray the sheet lightly, wipe it evenly, and go to town. It takes about 5 seconds. You can't print PLA until after you wash the plate with dawn. PLA won't stick to a Windexed plate. I have found that plates can still be damaged with alcohol. So I never use it now. Dawn and index only for anything from PLA to PETG to CPE to CPTG to ASA to ABS. Only need Windex and soap. I just tried Windex tonight for PETG. So far so good. Once the plate cooled, the prints popped right off light it was PETG. Thanks for this tip! |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 9:58:47 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By davewvu86: I just tried Windex tonight for PETG. So far so good. Once the plate cooled, the prints popped right off light it was PETG. Thanks for this tip! |
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Posted: 9/1/2024 10:23:01 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saker13: White Rain hair spray works as well. But, telling your wife why you bought windex is probably easier . Windex is also cheaper and the nozzle doesn't clog as easily too! And you can clean glass!
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Posted: 9/1/2024 10:54:50 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Saker13: Have you cleaned the lidar sensor? Not sure if this will link correctly... 1st up is replacing the USB c cable. After some playing around with it, lidar still works for filament calibration but fails 1st layer inspection. I hate just shooting parts without evidence, so i tried to dig through the logs, but they're encrypted, of all the stupid things to do. |
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Posted: 9/2/2024 2:19:27 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By davewvu86: I just tried Windex tonight for PETG. So far so good. Once the plate cooled, the prints popped right off light it was PETG. Thanks for this tip! **popped right off like it was PLA |
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Posted: 9/2/2024 3:18:43 PM EDT
[#38]
Perhaps a dumb question but has anyone successfully added a chamber heater to their P1/X1 printer? I vaguely recall there being an issue where I'd the chamber temp exceeded a certain threshold the printer would either cut off or the bed would stop heating. But I could be wrong. My memory is kinda crap.
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WI, USA
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Posted: 9/3/2024 6:48:15 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K1rodeoboater: Perhaps a dumb question but has anyone successfully added a chamber heater to their P1/X1 printer? I vaguely recall there being an issue where I'd the chamber temp exceeded a certain threshold the printer would either cut off or the bed would stop heating. But I could be wrong. My memory is kinda crap. That’s a new one to me. I don’t know what that threshold would be. I’d have to go back & look, but I think a YT’r did all the insulating & got his up to like 52C. I played around and got the temp of the room my printer is in to 85F & the chamber got to 48C along with some insulation. I wanted an X1E for the chamber heater. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 9/3/2024 12:08:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Gage]
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K1rodeoboater: Perhaps a dumb question but has anyone successfully added a chamber heater to their P1/X1 printer? I vaguely recall there being an issue where I'd the chamber temp exceeded a certain threshold the printer would either cut off or the bed would stop heating. But I could be wrong. My memory is kinda crap. This guy did a DIY heater. I haven't watched it yet.  Bambulab X1C - $50 HEATED CHAMBER |
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Posted: 9/3/2024 3:54:25 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gage: @K1rodeoboater This guy did a DIY heater. I haven't watched it yet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuuyrffuF30You the BLC Gage? |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 9/3/2024 4:57:41 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K1rodeoboater: @Gage thanks I'll check that out. You the BLC Gage? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By K1rodeoboater: Originally Posted By Gage: @K1rodeoboater This guy did a DIY heater. I haven't watched it yet. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EuuyrffuF30You the BLC Gage? No, not the BLC Gage. |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 1:31:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bubbahana]
[#43]
Just brought home a P1S with AWS from microcenter... what do I need to know
ETA: Holy shit this is way better than my old Sidewinder X1! 
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Posted: 9/7/2024 8:13:01 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bubbahana: Just brought home a P1S with AWS from microcenter... what do I need to know ETA: Holy shit this is way better than my old Sidewinder X1! |
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Posted: 9/7/2024 9:11:49 PM EDT
[#45]
Just made the hour drive to microcenter outside of philly and picked up a x1 carbon with ams! subbing to this thread as well! ill get it all up and going tmw. I have an anycubic vyper so im sure this will be a decent upgrade
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Posted: 9/7/2024 10:05:41 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MrMackey: Just made the hour drive to microcenter outside of philly and picked up a x1 carbon with ams! subbing to this thread as well! ill get it all up and going tmw. I have an anycubic vyper so im sure this will be a decent upgrade 
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WI, USA
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Posted: 9/8/2024 7:12:27 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MrMackey: Just made the hour drive to microcenter outside of philly and picked up a x1 carbon with ams! subbing to this thread as well! ill get it all up and going tmw. I have an anycubic vyper so im sure this will be a decent upgrade Welcome to the club. Do they sell much for Bambu accessories? |
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Posted: 9/8/2024 8:47:16 AM EDT
[Last Edit: MrMackey]
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gtfoxy: Welcome to the club. Do they sell much for Bambu accessories? Yes they seemed to have a bunch of stuff! I’m new to the bambu world but I’ve made the trip there a few times to build some gaming pc’s. The staff there is absolutely incredible every single time. Set up time!  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/8/2024 10:43:17 AM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MrMackey: Yes they seemed to have a bunch of stuff! I’m new to the bambu world but I’ve made the trip there a few times to build some gaming pc’s. The staff there is absolutely incredible every single time. Set up time! https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/587392/IMG_2113_jpeg-3316495.JPG You'll need to print rings for your cardboard spools more than likely. |
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Posted: 9/8/2024 1:11:52 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By -Obsessed-: You'll need to print rings for your cardboard spools more than likely. I’ve noticed that! Thank you!! |
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