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Link Posted: 1/23/2020 9:53:15 AM EST
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Originally Posted By LV1976:

Fair enough.  I qualify my statement with "in any sane kind of population density".
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Think if a big city in China being like the entire population of California in only Orange county.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 10:35:56 AM EST
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Now 3 cities are quarantined.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 10:50:03 AM EST
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Possible 7 cities now.
- Wuhan
- Huanggang
- Zhijiang
- Ezhou
- Qianjiang
- Chibi
- Xiantao
20,000,000+ citizens in total.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 10:52:19 AM EST
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Originally Posted By GoldenMead:
Possible 7 cities now.
- Wuhan
- Huanggang
- Zhijiang
- Ezhou
- Qianjiang
- Chibi
- Xiantao
20,000,000+ citizens in total.
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I don't remember seeing a response like this ever before.
Am I wrong?

This has gone from "keep an eye on it" to "a little concerned" in my book.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 10:55:47 AM EST
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In one video, a man can be seen 'disinfecting' eerily quiet streets of Wuhan, with billowing fumes filling the air outside an apartment block
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 10:56:52 AM EST
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Originally Posted By sabre_kc:
19 million people in the metro area according to wiki.

Wuhan Wiki
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In before China kills off Wuhan
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 10:57:51 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Chaingun:
In before China kills off Wuhan
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China man says what Wuhan.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 10:58:57 AM EST
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Originally Posted By brahm:
China man says what Wuhan.
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Originally Posted By brahm:
Originally Posted By Chaingun:
In before China kills off Wuhan
China man says what Wuhan.
Probably already started removing it from road signs and maps.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 11:01:06 AM EST
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I'm sure this is just a coincidence.

A laboratory in Wuhan is on the cusp of being cleared to work with the world’s most dangerous pathogens. The move is part of a plan to build between five and seven biosafety level-4 (BSL-4) labs across the Chinese mainland by 2025, and has generated much excitement, as well as some concerns.
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Link Posted: 1/23/2020 11:02:29 AM EST
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Link Posted: 1/23/2020 11:14:54 AM EST
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Originally Posted By navvet89:
My wife and I were discussing the CDC spokesman news shot this am. "we have a playbook for that" doesn't fill me with confidence when line 37 says "blockade the city and let the disease burn itself out".
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It’s about the survival of the human species. Individuals be dammed.
Guaranteed the political elite or extremely wealthy would be taken out of a hot zone.
Average Joe is on his own.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 11:18:04 AM EST
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Originally Posted By thehellbringer:
China is known for being honest.
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Originally Posted By Socio:
Last I heard China’s death count is at 17.
China is known for being honest.
As many viruses as they’ve had start up there over the years I don’t ever recall a quarantine like this. Makes you wonder how bad it really is.
Hell I could see China willing to go in and kill millions to prevent the spread of this and they wouldn’t bat an eye.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 11:23:53 AM EST
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Originally Posted By thehellbringer:

China is known for being honest.
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Link Posted: 1/23/2020 11:24:56 AM EST
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i am legend
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 11:26:12 AM EST
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Originally Posted By DVCER:

Those were some fast zombies.  I hate fast zombies.
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Yes but they slow down, a lot, over time according to TWD.

EDTA: This

Bring out your dead (Monty Python)


or this:

Eric Idle - "Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life" - STEREO HQ
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 11:26:15 AM EST
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Viral pandemic with no known cure?  Here is how it plays out:

Year 1

Spread of Simian Flu: Before the Dawn of the Apes (Year 1)


Year 5

Struggling to Survive: Before the Dawn of the Apes (Year 5)


Year 10

Story of the Gun: Before the Dawn of the Apes (Year 10)
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 11:33:29 AM EST
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Originally Posted By TailHunter:

Think if a big city in China being like the entire population of California Canada in only Orange county.
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Fixed it.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 11:37:22 AM EST
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Originally Posted By Atomic_Ferret:
I don't remember seeing a response like this ever before.
Am I wrong?

This has gone from "keep an eye on it" to "a little concerned" in my book.
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Originally Posted By Atomic_Ferret:
Originally Posted By GoldenMead:
Possible 7 cities now.
- Wuhan
- Huanggang
- Zhijiang
- Ezhou
- Qianjiang
- Chibi
- Xiantao
20,000,000+ citizens in total.
I don't remember seeing a response like this ever before.
Am I wrong?

This has gone from "keep an eye on it" to "a little concerned" in my book.
Someone translated the president of madagascar meme into mandarin.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 11:54:56 AM EST
[Last Edit: JBT] [#20]
Video from Wuhan
Individual suffering from NCov collapsing in the middle of the street
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 11:59:17 AM EST
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Link Posted: 1/23/2020 12:00:07 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Nailcrusher:
As many viruses as they’ve had start up there over the years I don’t ever recall a quarantine like this. Makes you wonder how bad it really is.
Hell I could see China willing to go in and kill millions to prevent the spread of this and they wouldn’t bat an eye.
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Originally Posted By Nailcrusher:
Originally Posted By thehellbringer:
Originally Posted By Socio:
Last I heard China’s death count is at 17.
China is known for being honest.
As many viruses as they’ve had start up there over the years I don’t ever recall a quarantine like this. Makes you wonder how bad it really is.
Hell I could see China willing to go in and kill millions to prevent the spread of this and they wouldn’t bat an eye.
Yes, this one is getting... interesting.

Normally, it's bird flu, monkey pox, or whatever and wall-to-wall "we all might die!!" coverage, which is a good sign it's nothing. This time, most of the coverage I see is tilting towards "this will be under control fast, don't worry".

In my lifetime, I can't recall a quarantine on ONE city, much less multiple cities with a combined population of 20 mil.

Really not sure what to make of this.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 12:02:57 PM EST
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Originally Posted By TailHunter:
11 million is just a town in China. Major metropolis in China is 2-4 times that number. I've been to Wuhan. By China standards it's small.
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Originally Posted By TailHunter:
Originally Posted By LV1976:

Has anybody quarantined a city of 11 million people before?  I agree it seems a bit odd, the Chinese are all about making it look like they have things under control so they can save face.  Quarantining a major metropolis doesn't sound like anything is under control.
11 million is just a town in China. Major metropolis in China is 2-4 times that number. I've been to Wuhan. By China standards it's small.

It’s the 6th or 7th largest city in China depending the source.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 12:08:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By HDLS:

It’s the 6th or 7th largest city in China depending the source.
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Originally Posted By HDLS:
Originally Posted By TailHunter:
Originally Posted By LV1976:

Has anybody quarantined a city of 11 million people before?  I agree it seems a bit odd, the Chinese are all about making it look like they have things under control so they can save face.  Quarantining a major metropolis doesn't sound like anything is under control.
11 million is just a town in China. Major metropolis in China is 2-4 times that number. I've been to Wuhan. By China standards it's small.

It’s the 6th or 7th largest city in China depending the source.
Yeah. Wuhan is massive by any measure. Ridiculous to call it a "town".
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 12:12:56 PM EST
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Originally Posted By JBT:
Video from Wuhan
Individual suffering from NCov collapsing in the middle of the street
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I bet the guy starts to reanimate right after the video conveniently cuts.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 12:18:38 PM EST
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Originally Posted By teamr2:
They need to tour the Congessional office buildings.
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Originally Posted By Sketti:
Well shit!

"Fairfax County schools are considering immediate "adjustments" to the student exchange program involving 21 middle school kids who arrived from Wuhan China in the last 48 hours. Parents are concerned the kids could carry the #coronavirus"

Update: "BREAKING: Fairfax County Schools decides out of an abundance of caution that exchange students from China will not visit schools, rather will tour cultural sites, find activities in DC area. Health officials say the risk of #coronavirus in kids is 'extremely low'" - WTF
They need to tour the Congessional office buildings.
Quick, someone tell AOC that the racist Republicans refuse to hug and kiss the exchange students.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 12:21:28 PM EST
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China is taking this far more seriously than the infection numbers would merit.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 12:21:50 PM EST
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Based on the typical "We're all going to die" news media coverage that these things usually entail, I can ascertain one of two things: we're screwed or this is a nothing burger when we have a president to impeach.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 12:22:44 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Undefined:
China is taking this far more seriously than the infection numbers would merit.
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Right? There are substantial economic costs to the measures they are taking.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 12:23:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Undefined:
China is taking this far more seriously than the infection numbers would merit.
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That's the unsettling part.

We get flu outbreaks all the time, couple of thousand people with compromised immune systems die, people move on and talk about a nasty flu season. Quarantining a major population center and adding to that?

Seems odd.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 12:24:51 PM EST
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Go ahead and mark my words now. The media is ginning up this virus and scaring people to make it worldwide news. The next pivot will be to blame Trump for the spread and his mishandling of the situation

You didn't know anyone with SARS or MERS either.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 12:25:03 PM EST
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They need to put a heavy tariff on the stuff to help keep it out.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 12:26:08 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Layer60:
Right? There are substantial economic costs to the measures they are taking.
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Originally Posted By Layer60:
Originally Posted By Undefined:
China is taking this far more seriously than the infection numbers would merit.
Right? There are substantial economic costs to the measures they are taking.
Wuhan has a GDP of $224 billion.

You don't shut down a city with a GDP of San Diego or Denver  without a damn good reason.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 12:28:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By sackettboys:
Have you seen the movie "Contagion"?
It's happening!...
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That was my first thought
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 12:29:37 PM EST
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Everyone please panic like the media wants you to do. Remember that time everybody here got ebola?
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 12:34:01 PM EST
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Is snake to human transmission a very significant finding/factor when it comes to viruses?

Link to an article on drudge regarding a study that there is evidence it went from bats to snakes to humans.

https://www.studyfinds.org/chinese-coronavirus-outbreak-traced-back-to-snakes-study-finds/

So, while the very beginnings of 2019-nCoV appear to be linked to bats, researchers also found evidence that the coronavirus at some point made its way into snakes before ultimately reaching human patient zero. It was this aforementioned ability to recombine within the viral receptor-binding protein that likely facilitated the virus’ cross-species transmission from snakes to humans.
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Link Posted: 1/23/2020 12:35:43 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Geiseric:
Everyone please panic like the media wants you to do. Remember that time everybody here got ebola?
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I agree, and the current info we have supports this. The Chinese gov reaction is what's questionable.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 12:36:42 PM EST
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Apparently there was a patent in 2015 for a cure.... Thought this was a new virus

https://patents.justia.com/patent/10130701
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 12:37:31 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Undefined:
Wuhan has a GDP of $224 billion.

You don't shut down a city with a GDP of San Diego or Denver  without a damn good reason.
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Originally Posted By Undefined:
Originally Posted By Layer60:
Originally Posted By Undefined:
China is taking this far more seriously than the infection numbers would merit.
Right? There are substantial economic costs to the measures they are taking.
Wuhan has a GDP of $224 billion.

You don't shut down a city with a GDP of San Diego or Denver  without a damn good reason.
that is right.

if you take into account that deaths lag onset of symptoms 1-2 weeks.

17 deaths announced yesterday and 1-2 weeks ago there were somewhere around 100 cases or less, the actual fatality rate is probably between 15-20%.

and it spreads as easily   as the common cold.

Now they have 7 cities quarantined.

The numbers must be much worse than the govt is saying.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 12:39:32 PM EST
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Originally Posted By zhass:
I agree, and the current info we have supports this. The Chinese gov reaction is what's questionable.
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Originally Posted By zhass:
Originally Posted By Geiseric:
Everyone please panic like the media wants you to do. Remember that time everybody here got ebola?
I agree, and the current info we have supports this. The Chinese gov reaction is what's questionable.
Either the data is incorrect or China is overreacting.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 12:42:50 PM EST
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Link Posted: 1/23/2020 12:45:55 PM EST
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Now Netflix wants me to watch pandemic.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 12:47:47 PM EST
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Originally Posted By sackettboys:
Have you seen the movie "Contagion"?
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Bingo.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 12:47:53 PM EST
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Originally Posted By MolonLobster:
Apparently there was a patent in 2015 for a cure.... Thought this was a new virus

https://patents.justia.com/patent/10130701
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Forsythia
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 12:48:28 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Mach:

that is right.

if you take into account that deaths lag onset of symptoms 1-2 weeks.

17 deaths announced yesterday and 1-2 weeks ago there were somewhere around 100 cases or less, the actual fatality rate is probably between 15-20%.

and it spreads as easily   as the common cold.

Now they have 7 cities quarantined.

The numbers must be much worse than the govt is saying.
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The youngest person(43) of the 17 to die showed symtoms and sought medical help in the beginning of december!
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 12:58:25 PM EST
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Madagascar needs to close its ports asap.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 1:10:22 PM EST
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SHUT DOWN AMAZON!  This has happened before with junk from Japan.  The Chinese virus is far worse!

Link Posted: 1/23/2020 1:10:58 PM EST
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Originally Posted By thehellbringer:
China is known for being honest.
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Originally Posted By thehellbringer:
Originally Posted By Socio:
Last I heard China’s death count is at 17.
China is known for being honest.
No shit...
I'm sure they have quarantined 4 cities over 17 deaths.
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 1:10:59 PM EST
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Originally Posted By Bandhunter:
The youngest person(43) of the 17 to die showed symtoms and sought medical help in the beginning of december!
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Originally Posted By Bandhunter:
Originally Posted By Mach:

that is right.

if you take into account that deaths lag onset of symptoms 1-2 weeks.

17 deaths announced yesterday and 1-2 weeks ago there were somewhere around 100 cases or less, the actual fatality rate is probably between 15-20%.

and it spreads as easily   as the common cold.

Now they have 7 cities quarantined.

The numbers must be much worse than the govt is saying.
The youngest person(43) of the 17 to die showed symtoms and sought medical help in the beginning of december!
longer lag times between onset and death makes the fatality rate go up

damn
Link Posted: 1/23/2020 1:12:15 PM EST
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Dey got the WuhanPneumonia & da BoogallooFlew
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