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Posted: 4/30/2010 5:58:05 PM EDT
What's the appeal? What's so good about them?
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I have one, they are nice, not worth the money though. Owner is a douchebag that supports Greenpeace. They got lots of people's credit card info stolen by lack of security after warnings from computer geeks that know that hacking stuff. Spotty customer service, will not purchase from again.
If you want to read more about it go to Lightfighter and look at TAD Gear news in their Tactical Clothing forum, you will get a good idea about what type of person runs the company. |
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tacti-cool This. They make a good product but I cannot bring myself to pay that much for a jacket. |
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I was moreso wondering about the product(s) than the people that run it.
What is it they accomplish that makes them such a hot item? |
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There isn't much special about them other than they are made well, good stitching that doesn't come apart, attention to detail, good quality materials. Still overpriced. Not sure what exactly what kind of answer you are looking for though.
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There isn't much special about them other than they are made well, good stitching that doesn't come apart, attention to detail, good quality materials. Still overpriced. Not sure what exactly what kind of answer you are looking for though. Plus 1. And they won't even say they are sorry when they get your crdeit card info stolen from them and someone starts ordering itunes songs from your card. I would never buy from them again, that's for sure. |
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tacti-cool This. I want a chicom knockoff. Some of their stuff is now made in China if that helps |
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tacti-cool This. I want a chicom knockoff. They're out there. Quality is probably total crap, but they do exist. Check ebay, they go for like $50. |
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i used to go to their shop when they were still in Oaktown; can't knock the guy's knack for selling
what folks are buying. they're in deep with strider, (at least they used to- one of their x employees went to work for Strider). all in all, good gear, pricy yes, but definetly a niche market. I'm not a hater, I just can't afford most of their stuff, and frankly you can get the same items for less on other forums. |
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Lets just say they are warm AND I hiked around in the rain for 8-ish hours and it didn't soak through .
You get what you pay for and it's VERY high quality made in custom small controlled batches(which is why it's expensive). Everything is limited run. ETA I was using the Stealth Hoodie Soft-shell (sharkskin). |
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tacti-cool This. I want a chicom knockoff. I'd rather buy from the PRC than support Greenpeace. |
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I suppose what I'm wondering is, what is the purpose of the jacket?
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Lets just say they are warm AND I hiked around in the rain for 8-ish hours and it didn't soak through . You get what you pay for and it's VERY high quality made in custom small controlled batches(which is why it's expensive). Everything is limited run. ETA I was using the Stealth Hoodie Soft-shell (sharkskin). I don't find mine particularly warm, layering as they are intended they are decently warm, but a USGI ECWCS with the polar fleece liner actually seems to retain heat better with me. Granted the ECWCS isn't a softshell, but I find myself wearing that more often than not in cold wet weather. I also have an OTTE Gear Alpine jacket that is super nice, but still doesn't seem as warm as the ECWCS. I would recommend the OTTE Gear over TAD for high end softshells. YMMV |
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I suppose what I'm wondering is, what is the purpose of the jacket? To be a warm, dry, well fitted jacket. They also are cut in such a way that they fit under chest rigs while still giving access to storage/pockets. |
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I suppose what I'm wondering is, what is the purpose of the jacket? I imagine the purpose of it is being seen wearing a cool expensive jacket, for most people who buy them. No different than women who carry a $700 purse. |
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It's fanboy/Gucci gear for the HSLD civilian equivalent to Delta crowd.
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I suppose what I'm wondering is, what is the purpose of the jacket? How many ways can you ask the same question? They make expensive softshells and hoodies, they are designed to make the outdoors more comfortable. |
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It's fanboy/Gucci gear for the HSLD civilian equivalent to Delta crowd. Kind of like Morale patches I suppose. |
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I suppose what I'm wondering is, what is the purpose of the jacket? To be a warm, dry, well fitted jacket. They also are cut in such a way that they fit under chest rigs while still giving access to storage/pockets. Well between that and the HLSD remark, I guess that settles it. Rig pics..? |
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Quoted: Interesting, For the money you would think they would have excellent customer service. Compare them to other brands who make a similar product. Particularly their soft shells and hard shell jackets. The quality that you get for the price you pay isn't that bad considering what people pay for Arc'teryx or OTTE Gear. Compare This to So if I was in the market for a soft shell jacket like the ones listed above but didnt want to spend that much $$$ where would I look? |
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It's fanboy/Gucci gear for the HSLD civilian equivalent to Delta crowd. Kind of like Morale patches I suppose. If you're trying to make a jab at me for my avatar, nice try. I don't have "morale" patches.I thought that the patch in my avatar is funny so I used it. |
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Interesting, For the money you would think they would have excellent customer service.
Compare them to other brands who make a similar product. Particularly their soft shells and hard shell jackets. The quality that you get for the price you pay isn't that bad considering what people pay for Arc'teryx or OTTE Gear. Compare This to So if I was in the market for a soft shell jacket like the ones listed above but didnt want to spend that much $$$ where would I look? I have heard Condor jackets are ok. They are lower quality but cost about 1/3 of the price so you can get another when the zippers break or seams rip. |
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I was moreso wondering about the product(s) than the people that run it. What is it they accomplish that makes them such a hot item? Again, are we talking the gear or the owners/operators... |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Interesting, For the money you would think they would have excellent customer service. Compare them to other brands who make a similar product. Particularly their soft shells and hard shell jackets. The quality that you get for the price you pay isn't that bad considering what people pay for Arc'teryx or OTTE Gear. Compare This to So if I was in the market for a soft shell jacket like the ones listed above but didnt want to spend that much $$$ where would I look? I have heard Condor jackets are ok. They are lower quality but cost about 1/3 of the price so you can get another when the zippers break or seams rip. They seem to go in the neighborhood of $80. Apparently they're popular in the airsoft crowd since they don't have the TAD price tag and the airsoft boys don't need TAD quality. I've seen several places that they are undersized. |
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When you buy from them they let some fucker steal your credit card data and you end up spending the next couple of months filling out tons of afidavits and legal paperwork trying to get your bank stuff sorted out. Then TAD sends you out a lame form letter letting you know that they were to stupid to protect their customers credit card data and not just you but hundreds of others all got ripped off to. So now you have to spend money to monitor your personal information for identity theft. I contacted TAD and they wouldnt respond to this other than bullshit form letters. Not even a lousy $10 "sorry for fuckin you over because we are stupid" gift certificate or anything.
Thanks TAD. You guys suck mongo chimp cock.... |
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Interesting, For the money you would think they would have excellent customer service. Compare them to other brands who make a similar product. Particularly their soft shells and hard shell jackets. The quality that you get for the price you pay isn't that bad considering what people pay for Arc'teryx or OTTE Gear. Compare This to So if I was in the market for a soft shell jacket like the ones listed above but didnt want to spend that much $$$ where would I look? I have heard Condor jackets are ok. They are lower quality but cost about 1/3 of the price so you can get another when the zippers break or seams rip. They seem to go in the neighborhood of $80. Apparently they're popular in the airsoft crowd since they don't have the TAD price tag and the airsoft boys don't need TAD quality. I've seen several places that they are undersized. So compare it to a north face summit series soft shell. I own one and its been a great jacket. Would the TAD jacket be comparable to that or would the condor be similar? |
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Interesting, For the money you would think they would have excellent customer service.
Compare them to other brands who make a similar product. Particularly their soft shells and hard shell jackets. The quality that you get for the price you pay isn't that bad considering what people pay for Arc'teryx or OTTE Gear. Compare This to So if I was in the market for a soft shell jacket like the ones listed above but didnt want to spend that much $$$ where would I look? I have heard Condor jackets are ok. They are lower quality but cost about 1/3 of the price so you can get another when the zippers break or seams rip. They seem to go in the neighborhood of $80. Apparently they're popular in the airsoft crowd since they don't have the TAD price tag and the airsoft boys don't need TAD quality. I've seen several places that they are undersized. I can't really comment on their longevity, either TAD or Condor. I have only had my Spectre for about 6 months, and have only worn it for 2 of those. Though I reasonably expect to have it for a decade or more. For close to 300 bucks it better have some staying power. I can say that it is of good quality so far, zippers and seams seem particularly strong and the material itself seems to be very resilient against long spans of time in pouring rain without soaking through. |
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Because: A) They're amazing. Very very warm, light weight, tough and damn near water proof. B) They look good. C) Wearing one (and buying one for your girl) brings you a higher level of pie unavailable from the north face twinkies. http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/allusakid/099-2.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/allusakid/Spring%20Break%20Florida%202010/105.jpg http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b182/allusakid/Spring%20Break%20Florida%202010/176.jpg Plus when coupled with a 3-wolf-moon shirt they make you bulletproof. |
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Quoted: What's the appeal? What's so good about them? It's like Louis Vuitton for operators. |
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...Owner is a douchebag that supports Greenpeace... Reference? |
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That's the strangest page I've ever seen... It's kinda like with I found out my Grandmother, who suffers from dementia, was giving money to both the Obama campaign and the McCain campaign. |
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Its because the jackets are made out of hand crafted Chinese Rain Forrest material, harvested with the help of specially trained Panda's.
(that's all I got..... think their gear look very cool) |
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That's the strangest page I've ever seen... It's kinda like with I found out my Grandmother, who suffers from dementia, was giving money to both the Obama campaign and the McCain campaign. And worse, they support Panerai. |
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Great designs, great product, over-priced... When I bought mine I was supposed to get free shipping, I got charged, I complained and they were really rude, refused to refund my shipping even though it was listed as "free". Also took them 3wks to ship, even though it was supposed to be two day.
I like their stuff, but I won't order from them again. |
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That's the strangest page I've ever seen... It's kinda like with I found out my Grandmother, who suffers from dementia, was giving money to both the Obama campaign and the McCain campaign. And worse, they support Panerai. I throw a fit... but I'm sitting here in a Patagonia R1 top. In my defense, I'm on their Pro Deal. |
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The jackets are well made. Their customer service is some of the worst I've ever experienced from a company that sells premium niche gear - a market in which you damn well better take care of your customers.
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There is a thread I would recommend reading here
You will learn a lot more about TAD Gear and their product quality, customer service, and overall attitude toward the Military. Good read, I highly recommend it. |
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Look nice but I dont like the buckles that are on the front... |
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<meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></meta>".....supports Greenpeace." That there says it all for me. I'll never buy anything from them again.
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Very, very well made stuff that stands up to abuse in the field, and is it functional.
I imagine the price would be prohibitive to some people if the gear is not being issued to you. Arcteryx LEAF is not cheap either though. |
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One of my best friends worked in the San Francisco office for about 2 years. He loved it there and then all of a sudden him and the owner had a falling out. He never told me what it was about but he said he would never deal with them again.
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