Anyone know about 30MM shells?

[ARCHIVED THREAD] - Anyone know about 30MM shells?

Posted: 10/18/2010 7:12:55 PM EDT

Are these available as novelties? Destructive Device? Empty cases only? The Indy 1500 is this weekend and I want to try to find one.

Posted: 10/18/2010 7:17:59 PM EDT

[#1]

Like these?

Or did you mean the actual projectile?

Posted: 10/18/2010 7:18:09 PM EDT

[#2]

I picked up one at Knob last week......JT said I needed nic nacs.

Posted: 10/18/2010 7:20:22 PM EDT

[#3]

Quoted:
Like these?

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u317/DoubleARon_2007/DSCI0410.jpg

Or did you mean the actual projectile?

No––I mean the ones that look like a giant cartridge. Are those available?

I have no idea what that thing you have is.

Posted: 10/18/2010 7:20:59 PM EDT

[#4]

Quoted:
I picked up one at Knob last week......JT said I needed nic nacs.

A loaded round or an empty case? Can I ask how much $$? Can I afford one?

Posted: 10/18/2010 7:22:55 PM EDT

[#5]

Quoted:

Quoted:

Like these?

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u317/DoubleARon_2007/DSCI0410.jpg

Or did you mean the actual projectile?

No––I mean the ones that look like a giant cartridge. Are those available?

I have no idea what that thing you have is.

It's a 30mm HEDP case. You've probably seen film footage of them falling out of the bottom of an Apache..., and the black and white video footage of the hilarity that ensues on the other end! Funny that it's a belted rimless case though. Like having a giant .470 Capstick case.

Posted: 10/18/2010 7:23:21 PM EDT

[#6]

I've seen inert ones from time to time, are you looking for a live cartridge?

Posted: 10/18/2010 7:24:19 PM EDT

[#7]

Admit it TBK, you just want to impress PlaneJane from that "other thread".

Posted: 10/18/2010 7:24:41 PM EDT

[#8]

Quoted:
Are these available as novelties? Destructive Device? Empty cases only? The Indy 1500 is this weekend and I want to try to find one.

One of these?

Posted: 10/18/2010 7:25:42 PM EDT

[#9]

0MM VULCAN DUMMY ROUND WITH INERT POINTED TIP PROJECTILE AND SOLID DRIVING BAND
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30MM VULCAN DUMMY ROUND WITH PLASTIC DRIVING BAND OR WITH DOUBLE PLASTIC DRIVING BANDS ––- $50 each

30MM VULCAN DUMMY ROUND WITH INERT POINTED TIP ARMOR PIERCING TRACER PROJECTILE— $90 each

30MM VULCAN BARREL-APPROXIMATELY 4 FOOT CUT CHAMBER END SECTION ––- $1,700 each

30MM VULCAN BARREL-APPROXIMATELY 4 to 6 FOOT CUT MUZZLE END SECTION ––- $1,500 each

30MM VULCAN BARREL-CAP FOR CHAMBER END OF CUT 30MM BARREL ––- for fuse type cannon ––- $200 each
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30MM VULCAN BARREL TANK TYPE MUZZLE BRAKE for chamber end ––- $295 each
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30MM VULCAN FULL LENGTH UNCUT BARREL— $8,900 each

30MM PROOF TEST BARREL SECTION APPROXIMATELY 25" LONG AND 2" THICK— $300

30MM VULCAN BLUE PROJECTILE WITH PLASTIC DRIVING BAND — $30 each

30MM VULCAN PROJECTILE WITH SOLID DRIVING BAND ––- $30 each

30MM VULCAN PROJECTILE WITH DOUBLE PLASTIC DRIVING BAND ––- $40 each

30MM VULCAN LIVE PERCUSSION PRIMED TARGET PRACTICE AMMO — $290 each

30MM VULCAN LIVE ELECTRIC PRIMED TARGET PRACTICE AMMO — $190 each
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30MM ADEN/DEFA LIVE TARGET PRACTICE AMMO collectors grade (2 TYPES) ––- $290 each

30MM 30X178 MAUSER MODEL B GERMAN AIRCRAFT LINKS — $10 each

"NOTE: ALL NFA RULES APPLY TO MAKE REAL VULCAN SINGLE SHOT CANNONS THAT SHOOT LIVE AMMO OR TO USE CHAMBER ENDS AS SUB CALIBERS FOR LARGER CANNONS THAT SHOOT LIVE AMMO.”
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COPY OF ATF LETTER ALLOWING THE POSSESSION OF LARGE CALIBER LIVE TARGET PRACTICE AMMO — $20 each

http://www.bigskysurplus.com/main.htm

Posted: 10/18/2010 7:26:08 PM EDT

[#10]

Google, man, Google!

All I searched for was "inert training round" and this was the first hit.

http://www.inertproducts.com/inc/sdetail/2098

Learn to Google and people will not ridicule you for not knowing how to Google.

Posted: 10/18/2010 7:32:11 PM EDT

[#11]

Quoted:
Google, man, Google!

All I searched for was "inert training round" and this was the first hit.

http://www.inertproducts.com/inc/sdetail/2098

http://pl.b5z.net/i/u/6070324/i/30MM.JPG

Learn to Google and people will not ridicule you for not knowing how to Google.

ouch! those are spendy little bastards!

Posted: 10/18/2010 7:35:05 PM EDT

[#12]

Practice round

Posted: 10/18/2010 7:36:24 PM EDT

[#13]

Quoted:
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/Sky_5/100_1775.jpg

Practice round

thats a 20mm

Posted: 10/18/2010 7:36:35 PM EDT

[#14]

Quoted:

Quoted:
I picked up one at Knob last week......JT said I needed nic nacs.

A loaded round or an empty case? Can I ask how much $$? Can I afford one?

Full inert round....projectile and case. $25

Posted: 10/18/2010 7:39:37 PM EDT

[#15]

Quoted:
Google, man, Google!

All I searched for was "inert training round" and this was the first hit.

http://www.inertproducts.com/inc/sdetail/2098

http://pl.b5z.net/i/u/6070324/i/30MM.JPG

Learn to Google and people will not ridicule you for not knowing how to Google.

I always google first––I didn't get what I wanted to know (availability and legality).

Those pics look cool––thanks! Are live rounds legal to have? It looks like they are more spendy than I am willing to part with.

Posted: 10/18/2010 8:34:31 PM EDT

[#16]

Go Live.

http://www.sturmgewehr.com/webBBS/nfa4sale.cgi?read=131961

Need a gun to go with that?

https://armamentsales.sslpowered.com/photos/thumbnails.php?album=2

Posted: 10/18/2010 8:41:37 PM EDT

[#17]

Quoted:

Quoted:
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/Sky_5/100_1775.jpg

Practice round

thats a 20mm

Scew 50 BMG! I want an AR upper chambered in that! Can you even buy the HE ones or the APDS ones(do they even make those since its mainly an aircraft cannon)? Can you even buy the live 30mm without jumping though the NFA hoops? Seems like they would contain more than 1/4 ounce of explosive given the size. I have no idea though as I have 0 expirience with either.

Posted: 10/18/2010 8:43:52 PM EDT

[#18]

There were some folks on the NFA forum with 30mm rifles and some videos.

Way out of my league.

Posted: 10/18/2010 8:44:26 PM EDT

[#19]

Quoted:

Quoted:
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/Sky_5/100_1775.jpg

Practice round

thats a 20mm

Scew 50 BMG! I want an AR upper chambered in that! Can you even buy the HE ones or the APDS ones(do they even make those since its mainly an aircraft cannon)? Can you even buy the live 30mm without jumping though the NFA hoops? Seems like they would contain more than 1/4 ounce of explosive given the size. I have no idea though as I have 0 expirience with either.

Anzio Ironworks makes a rifle in 20mm.

Posted: 10/18/2010 8:46:21 PM EDT

[#20]

A buddy of mine has a vulcan barrel off a f-14 Tomcat I think. I've always wanted to make a gun out of it. Has anyone ever heard of this being done ? That's kinda why I asked about ammo in my last post. Obviously it would need to be Form 1'd, but it'd be worth it for sure. Nothing quite says "I'm unhappy with you're behavior" like a HE or APDS 20mm or 30mm round.

Posted: 10/18/2010 8:46:44 PM EDT

[#21]

Live practice rounds are legal, no problem. That is, they can't have explosive projectiles.

The 20mm shooter crowd (there are a few with Lahtis, you know, and if you care to jump through the hoops, you can play in the DD world, too) uses cut-down and reformed 20mm Vulcan brass with M55 Vulcan target practice slugs. Makes a nice big hole with admirable wind resistance

and impressive brush bucking performance!

River Valley Ordnance used to be a source for the M55 TP slugs. Maybe they still have some?

CJ

Posted: 10/18/2010 8:47:55 PM EDT

[#22]

Quoted:

Like these?

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u317/DoubleARon_2007/DSCI0410.jpg

Or did you mean the actual projectile?

Is that steel or blackened brass?

Posted: 10/18/2010 8:51:40 PM EDT

[#23]

Quoted:

Quoted:
Like these?

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u317/DoubleARon_2007/DSCI0410.jpg

Or did you mean the actual projectile?

Is that steel or blackened brass?

Looking around the rim there appear to be extractor marks that make it look like it might be steel.

Posted: 10/18/2010 8:53:39 PM EDT

[#24]

Quoted:

Quoted:
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq229/Sky_5/100_1775.jpg

Practice round

thats a 20mm

Scew 50 BMG! I want an AR upper chambered in that! Can you even buy the HE ones or the APDS ones(do they even make those since its mainly an aircraft cannon)? Can you even buy the live 30mm without jumping though the NFA hoops? Seems like they would contain more than 1/4 ounce of explosive given the size. I have no idea though as I have 0 expirience with either.

Anzio Ironworks makes a rifle in 20mm.

See my post above. I've seen the Anzio rifle, and it looks sweet. It is a bit out of my price range though. I can't realistically justify 10g's on something that would only get shot with TP ammo every once in a while. If I could make a "half assed one" out of a pre existing barrel, and keep the cost in check and spread out I think the goal would be much more realistic. I don't have any delusions of grandueor (sp?) with regard to any practical application, but it'd sure be a fun "toy". Ball or HE ammo though, specifically being able to find or load it, would be the deal breaker though. TP ammo would take a lot of the fun out of it. Hence the reason I haven't pursued an M203. Shooting just training rounds is not as fun. Though I have been trying to justify the 203 as I can shoot other stuff out of it.

Damn ARFCOM, I always end up spending/wanting to spend money after I leave. That's half the reason I quit frequenting the tech forums so much. Haha. So much to buy, so little funds.