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Posted: 10/17/2012 5:26:48 PM EDT
This one's a small bore, .36 caliber. Oak tiller with Sedona red stain and five coats of Tru-oil.
And with a couple others, a .50 and a brass .32. 
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Posted: 10/17/2012 5:28:52 PM EDT
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Do you make those? Looks cool. |
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Posted: 10/17/2012 5:28:53 PM EDT
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I would like to see a video of you shooting those since I don't know much about them. Nice craftsmanship though, they look really nice.
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Posted: 10/17/2012 5:31:10 PM EDT
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Which end do you hit the guy with?
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Posted: 10/17/2012 5:31:32 PM EDT
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come on man. Join the 16th century.
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Posted: 10/17/2012 5:32:36 PM EDT
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Do you make those? I don't make the barrels, I buy them. Quoted:
I would like to see a video of you shooting those since I don't know much about them. I have a short video of my son shooting the .32, but I think it got deleted from my flickr account. I'll see if I can upload it again. |
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Posted: 10/17/2012 5:34:13 PM EDT
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Which end do you hit the guy with? The heavy end. 
I'm almost done with a transitional piece, a .75 with a serpentine lever. Just need to paint the serpentine and it'll be done. |
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Posted: 10/17/2012 5:34:47 PM EDT
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Ya know, those would probably do pretty well at drawing in new people to shooting. Let 'em have a go at hitting a jug of water or some such. If they miss with the first shot, you just know they'd want to try again. And again...
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Posted: 10/18/2012 5:30:56 AM EDT
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I would like to see a video of you shooting those Short clip of my son shooting the small one. http://www.flickr.com/photos/68408350@N05/8099065623/ |
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Posted: 10/18/2012 5:32:20 AM EDT
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Let 'em have a go at hitting a jug of water or some such. It's not hard to hit a milk jug at 25 yards with a little practice. |
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Posted: 10/18/2012 6:28:43 AM EDT
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So, where do we buy these....
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Posted: 10/18/2012 6:43:24 AM EDT
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Awesome!
The only time I watched one of those stupid gun reality shows a guy was making what was supposed to be a hand gonne (it was truly an abortion  ). He kept saying "this is the first time in hundreds of years that someone has made one of these. Neva been done befo!"  I kept thinking, "there's a whole section on the muzzleloading forums of people making those. 
Therefore, I say to you: Neva been done befo! 
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Posted: 10/18/2012 6:49:36 AM EDT
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Nice.
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Posted: 10/18/2012 9:21:12 AM EDT
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So, where do we buy these.... I buy some from a high school student who's training to become a machinist. He makes them for fun in his spare time. I also just bought a golf ball mortar from him, should be here in a day or two. But there are other places online where you can order them. I got my .75 barrel from The Rifle Shoppe. I'll be done with that one today. I bought it over a year ago, but I wasn't happy with the first tiller I made for it so I just made a new one. It's pretty big, overall length is 74". But you need to call them and ask if they have what you want in stock. They take orders but they don't start making parts until they have enough to make a batch. I've heard of guys waiting a couple of years for parts from them. They make good quality stuff, but you'll be waiting a while if they don't already have what you want in stock. http://www.therifleshoppe.com/ This guy is active in the cannon forum on Graybeard Outdoors: http://www.blackpowder-cannons.com/index.htm I think this guy is temporarily not making gonnes, but he has a nice gallery of stuff. You can contact him and ask when he'll be back in production. http://www.handgonne.com/arsenal.html I had a couple other links, but I can't find them now. I'll try to dig them up. Quoted:
Awesome! The only time I watched one of those stupid gun reality shows a guy was making what was supposed to be a hand gonne (it was truly an abortion ). He kept saying "this is the first time in hundreds of years that someone has made one of these. Neva been done befo!" I kept thinking, "there's a whole section on the muzzleloading forums of people making those.
Therefore, I say to you: Neva been done befo! Yeah, there's a youtube video I posted here recently, some guy's response to that episode. He shot down everything they said on that show. I agree with pretty much everything he said. ETA: Here it is. 
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Posted: 10/18/2012 9:37:13 AM EDT
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are these preban?
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Posted: 10/18/2012 9:39:56 AM EDT
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I thought this was a Glock thread.
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Posted: 10/18/2012 2:17:06 PM EDT
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I would like to see a video of you shooting those Short clip of my son shooting the small one. http://www.flickr.com/photos/68408350@N05/8099065623/ That looks like fun 
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Posted: 10/18/2012 2:58:53 PM EDT
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are these preban? By hundreds of years. Quoted:
I thought this was a Glock thread. You're thinking of hand grenades.
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I would like to see a video of you shooting those Short clip of my son shooting the small one. http://www.flickr.com/photos/68408350@N05/8099065623/ That looks like fun
It's a blast.
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Posted: 10/18/2012 3:22:16 PM EDT
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After careful consideration, I had to come back and say those look awesome.
I also wanted to come back and call you an asshole. I want one of those now....before this thread they hadn't crossed my mind.
Thanks a lot.
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Posted: 10/18/2012 4:11:27 PM EDT
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Anytime.
And I've been called worse than that.
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Posted: 10/18/2012 4:22:45 PM EDT
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I thought this was a Glock thread. 
Want. |
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Posted: 10/18/2012 4:39:16 PM EDT
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I thought this was a Glock thread. http://www.therifleshoppe.com/images/trs_pics/819/819_Full_Stock_600_wide.jpg Want. +1 |
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Posted: 10/23/2012 11:37:41 AM EDT
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I finished this one yesterday. It's a .44 with a birch tiller. Overall length is 56".
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Posted: 10/25/2012 4:23:50 PM EDT
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I finished this one yesterday. It's a .44 with a birch tiller. Overall length is 56". http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll6/slider356/003-1.jpg http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j377/victor751/008-6-1.jpg http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af106/delta38trane/010_zpse1c8b3ba.jpg http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg51/mike53787/016_zpsc38a5624.jpg Awesome. I can't decide if I like this one or the one in your first post better. 
How exactly do you attach the tiller? Turn it down on a lathe to the right diameter, slather it with some period correct JB Weld, and beat the barrel on with a mallet?
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Posted: 10/25/2012 4:31:48 PM EDT
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That's pretty cool. You need to post a vid.
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Posted: 10/25/2012 4:49:02 PM EDT
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Quoted: I finished this one yesterday. It's a .44 with a birch tiller. Overall length is 56". http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll6/slider356/003-1.jpg http://i1082.photobucket.com/albums/j377/victor751/008-6-1.jpg http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af106/delta38trane/010_zpse1c8b3ba.jpg http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg51/mike53787/016_zpsc38a5624.jpg why is the pole so long? edit: I would love to attach a bardiche blade to one of those things. Bardiche handgonne |
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Posted: 10/25/2012 5:07:21 PM EDT
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why is the pole so long? You can make it as long as you want. I've seen some short ones, and my two smallbores are shorter. But they're long enough to shoot like they were back in the day, with the tiller held under one arm, or in both hands, or over the shoulder (my .75 is pretty big, though). Quoted:
How exactly do you attach the tiller? Turn it down on a lathe to the right diameter, slather it with some period correct JB Weld, and beat the barrel on with a mallet? I don't use any power tools, except for a drill. If you have a dowel the right size, you can just stick it in the socket. But if it's not a tight fit, you can use glue if you want to make it permanent. I use larger ones and reduce the size a few different ways. Some I just carve to shape with a chisel, rasp and sandpaper. With the .44, I drilled the end and glued a dowel in the hole to serve as the peg. It was a bit loose in the socket, so I soaked the peg in hot water to make it swell up so it fits tight. None of them are on permanently, but they fit tight enough to be secure. Quoted:
That's pretty cool. You need to post a vid. I posted a short video a few posts up, it's my son shooting the small brass one. I finished the new tiller for my .75 a few days ago. I had another one on it that I wasn't happy with, so I made a larger one. This one is hemlock, and I added a serpentine to hold a slowmatch, to make it similar to the earliest known picture of a hand-held firearm that has a trigger mechanism. That's this one, from 1411: 
Some pictures I took today. Overall length is 74". First two are with a bolt-action for a size comparison. 
Group picture. 
Starting with the small brass one, the calibers and wood type are .32 oak, .36 oak, .50 poplar, .44 birch, and .75 hemlock. Stained various colors and finished with Tru-oil. 
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Posted: 10/25/2012 5:13:50 PM EDT
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Pretty cool, me likey.
Where's the shoulder thing that goes up and the clip? Are those extra? Danny
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Posted: 10/26/2012 6:35:38 AM EDT
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Where's the shoulder thing that goes up and the clip? Are those extra? Sorry, no clips, no shoulder thingies. But they could probably be fitted with a bayonet lug and a pistol grip.
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Posted: 10/26/2012 11:00:57 AM EDT
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I thought this was a Glock thread. Damn....Over a week and no one got my joke? 
Get it....Glock....."Handgonne"...Hand Gone....huh, get it? get it? You, know...because Glocks go KB and then your hand is gone! Handgonne
Wasn't that funny I guess.
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Posted: 10/26/2012 11:02:32 AM EDT
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I thought this was a Glock thread. Damn....Over a week and no one got my joke?
Get it....Glock....."Handgonne"...Hand Gone....huh, get it? get it? You, know...because Glocks go KB and then your hand is gone! Handgonne
Wasn't that funny I guess. 
I didn't get it before. Nice.
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Posted: 10/26/2012 11:10:49 AM EDT
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This thread is awesome.
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Posted: 10/26/2012 11:23:04 AM EDT
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Smashy, I thought you were just being cute with the 'handgonne' thing but now I get it
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Are the white metal ones steel, stainless, or what? I'm assuming non-period-correct stainless due to appearance. I have some axle shafts laying around that might be good material for this sort of thing... |
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Posted: 10/26/2012 11:36:07 AM EDT
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I thought this was a Glock thread. Damn....Over a week and no one got my joke?
Get it....Glock....."Handgonne"...Hand Gone....huh, get it? get it? You, know...because Glocks go KB and then your hand is gone! Handgonne
Wasn't that funny I guess.
I didn't get it before. Nice. 
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Posted: 10/26/2012 11:48:02 AM EDT
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Smashy, you must have a really tall gun safe.
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Posted: 10/26/2012 12:00:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/26/2012 12:58:55 PM EDT
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I don't get why they don't put a pistol grip stock and crude sights on it. O wait that would be a musket! |
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Posted: 10/26/2012 6:14:48 PM EDT
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I thought this was a Glock thread. Damn....Over a week and no one got my joke?
Get it....Glock....."Handgonne"...Hand Gone....huh, get it? get it? You, know...because Glocks go KB and then your hand is gone! Handgonne
Wasn't that funny I guess. I thought you were making a joke about hand grenades (I guess in a way, you were), but I get it now. Sorry, I guess I'm slow on the uptake. 
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Are the white metal ones steel, stainless, or what? They're made from 1018 steel. Quoted:
Smashy, you must have a really tall gun safe. The barrels are removable so they can be stashed easily. All that's left is a stick. Quoted:
I don't get why they don't put a pistol grip stock and crude sights on it. O wait that would be a musket! And a laser!
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Posted: 10/28/2012 7:11:30 PM EDT
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OK, I really want one of those now. I'm assuming they're all smoothbore?
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Posted: 10/28/2012 7:13:41 PM EDT
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yes.... I Will Have One
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Posted: 10/28/2012 7:20:19 PM EDT
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How do you shoot it?
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Posted: 10/28/2012 7:21:18 PM EDT
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What do you use for a match?
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Posted: 10/28/2012 7:29:56 PM EDT
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I'm assuming they're all smoothbore? Yes. Rifling didn't come along for another couple hundred years or so. Quoted:
How do you shoot it? There's a short video of my son shooting one several posts up. Quoted:
What do you use for a match? I usually use punks that I buy every year at a local fireworks stand. I know of someone who uses an incense stick. You can use slowmatch just held in your hand, or with a linstock, which is basically a stick with a wire attached to hold the match. Here's an example: 
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Posted: 10/28/2012 8:03:38 PM EDT
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What do you use for a match? I just realized you meant how to make it. First you need some rope. Cotton rope will work. Hemp is better. You can order some from online dealers. Turkey Foot Traders is a good place (bottom half of the page): http://www.turkeyfootllc.com/Hemproducts.html Then you'll need potassium nitrate. United Nuclear sells it. http://unitednuclear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=87&products_id=179 There are also several sellers on Amazon that sell it. http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=potassium+nitrate Then follow the steps here: http://www.metamuseum.com/us/slowmatch/ You can also use blackpowder (real blackpowder, not substitutes like Pyrodex) instead of pure potassium nitrate. The rope will absorb the potassium nitrate in the blackpowder, the sulfur and charcoal will remain in the water. I haven't tried it. Personally, I'd rather save my blackpowder for shooting. When it's dry, it's ready to use. |
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Posted: 10/29/2012 1:04:07 AM EDT
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I make my own match.
I have more KNO3 than I will probably ever use in a lifetime.
One thing I have learned is to put dye in the solution, so the match does not get confused with the new cord. Here is my tubular linstock (that match was made before I started dying it brown) . . . 
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Posted: 10/29/2012 1:15:06 AM EDT
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Very nice workmanship.
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Posted: 10/29/2012 8:09:36 AM EDT
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I make my own match. I have more KNO3 than I will probably ever use in a lifetime.
One thing I have learned is to put dye in the solution, so the match does not get confused with the new cord. Here is my tubular linstock (that match was made before I started dying it brown) . . . http://www.fototime.com./%7B82E8C5BC-DFAB-45A1-89B4-5B3B965224C2%7D/origpict/linstock_new%28lg%29.jpg That's pretty cool. I like the match tube. |
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Posted: 11/8/2012 1:05:42 PM EDT
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Just adding the other day's range report to this thread.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_1_5/1388302_Post_election_day_range_report__with_pictures_and_video.html |
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Posted: 11/8/2012 1:26:48 PM EDT
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I need one of these things. Is there any special consideration or special taxes needed to own one of these things?
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Posted: 11/8/2012 2:47:12 PM EDT
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I need one of these things. Is there any special consideration or special taxes needed to own one of these things? Taxes? It's just not even a complete muzzleloader, just a barrel. All you need is the cash necessary to have someone make the barrel for you (unless you can make your own). But who knows with places like New Jersey, Chicago, D.C., etc. Those places have such weird laws that it might be considered an assault weapon (which it was, 700 years ago). But if you can buy a muzzleloader barrel where you live without ending up doing time in the pokey, then you shouldn't have a problem. |
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Posted: 11/23/2012 6:14:46 PM EDT
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those are some purty gonnes the guy that made them has some skill wait a sec i am that guy
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