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Posted: 12/21/2012 10:24:23 AM EDT
Watch this and compare it to what we see on the news now. Back in the 1960's the reporters reported the facts only, no conjecture, no opinion, no trying to sway public opinion. You will never see current news outlets report like this now days.
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Posted: 12/21/2012 10:26:58 AM EDT
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Watched all that live on TV as it happened. Some good old boys came out and kept Whitman pinned down.
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Posted: 12/21/2012 10:28:22 AM EDT
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I wasn't alive during this...but I am awestruck at the solemn reverence that the reporters had while reporting facts alone.
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Posted: 12/21/2012 10:35:33 AM EDT
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No "Assault Weapons" either.
Closest would probably be the M1 Carbine |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 10:37:05 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/21/2012 10:39:21 AM EDT
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Quoted: I wasn't alive during this...but I am awestruck at the solemn reverence that the reporters had while reporting facts alone. That was before Woodward and Bernstein's Pulitzer Prize for Watergate coverage and taking down a presidency singlehanded. |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 10:41:36 AM EDT
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How could something like have happened before video games, widespread ownership of AR15s, and before God was taken out of the classroom?
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Posted: 12/21/2012 10:41:56 AM EDT
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No "Assault Weapons" either. Closest would probably be the M1 Carbine SHOOTING: August 1, 1966 The AR-15 was in existance then...but not popular. Colt aquired the rights to manufacture the AR-15 on September 30, 1959. You also had the FN FAL (designed 1943, producted 1947), the M1 Carbine, the AK-47 (designed 1947, production started 1949)... What you fail to remember is this was PRE-1986... So they had even more evil guns than these crappy "assault weapons"... They had full blown MACHINE GUNS!! |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 10:42:14 AM EDT
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hmmmm, he must of had 1 of those darn evil assault weapons with them there high capacity clips
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Posted: 12/21/2012 10:45:20 AM EDT
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No "Assault Weapons" either. Closest would probably be the M1 Carbine Yep he used one of those Remington 700 deer sniper rifles. |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 10:57:27 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: No "Assault Weapons" either. Closest would probably be the M1 Carbine SHOOTING: August 1, 1966 The AR-15 was in existence then...but not popular. Colt acquired the rights to manufacture the AR-15 on September 30, 1959. You also had the FN FAL (designed 1943, produced 1947), the M1 Carbine, the AK-47 (designed 1947, production started 1949)... What you fail to remember is this was PRE-1986... So they had even more evil guns than these crappy "assault weapons"... They had full blown MACHINE GUNS!! Desert_AIP is talking about the weapons Whitman used, i'm assuming. |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 10:57:38 AM EDT
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No "Assault Weapons" either. Closest would probably be the M1 Carbine Yep he used one of those Remington 700 deer sniper rifles. Amazing what a wording change can convey 
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Posted: 12/21/2012 11:06:19 AM EDT
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No "Assault Weapons" either. Closest would probably be the M1 Carbine SHOOTING: August 1, 1966 The AR-15 was in existence then...but not popular. Colt acquired the rights to manufacture the AR-15 on September 30, 1959. You also had the FN FAL (designed 1943, produced 1947), the M1 Carbine, the AK-47 (designed 1947, production started 1949)... What you fail to remember is this was PRE-1986... So they had even more evil guns than these crappy "assault weapons"... They had full blown MACHINE GUNS!! Desert_AIP is talking about the weapons Whitman used, i'm assuming. Nope, based on the Bold/Red part highlighted, he was conveying that there were no assault weapons other than the M1 Garand at the time. |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 11:06:35 AM EDT
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Posted: 12/21/2012 11:07:47 AM EDT
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Watched all that live on TV as it happened. Some good old boys came out and kept Whitman pinned down. ETA http://murderpedia.org/male.W/images/whitman_charles/shooting/1010f.jpg Some of those men went to a LGS where the owner handed out rifles and ammunition. Passing out the rifles without the paperwork and background check would be a crime today. |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 11:09:46 AM EDT
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The backlash on that one was that there was a brief effort made to outlaw telescopic sights.
Incidentally much of the firepower used to pin Whitman down came from the student body. |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 11:15:04 AM EDT
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"and some citizens that were deputized when they offered their services"
That would never happen today. Citizens aren't professional enough. |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 11:15:52 AM EDT
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No "Assault Weapons" either. Closest would probably be the M1 Carbine SHOOTING: August 1, 1966 The AR-15 was in existence then...but not popular. Colt acquired the rights to manufacture the AR-15 on September 30, 1959. You also had the FN FAL (designed 1943, produced 1947), the M1 Carbine, the AK-47 (designed 1947, production started 1949)... What you fail to remember is this was PRE-1986... So they had even more evil guns than these crappy "assault weapons"... They had full blown MACHINE GUNS!! Desert_AIP is talking about the weapons Whitman used, i'm assuming. Nope, based on the Bold/Red part highlighted, he was conveying that there were no assault weapons other than the M1 Garand at the time. 
I took it that he meant the closest thing to an "assault weapon" that Whitman had was his M1 Carbine. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 11:17:27 AM EDT
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"and some citizens that were deputized when they offered their services"
That would never happen today. Citizens aren't professional enough. It's a good bet that some of the people pinning him down had experience at doing just that. |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 11:18:24 AM EDT
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Back in the 1960's the reporters reported the facts only, no conjecture, no opinion, no trying to sway public opinion. The movie portrayed officer Ramiro Martinez as being a victim of racism against Hispanics. My parents knew Martinez in later years - He once told them that there was no racism involved, and that he resented the inaccuracies in the movie. |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 11:20:23 AM EDT
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How could something like have happened before video games, widespread ownership of AR15s, and before God was taken out of the classroom? ahh AMEN |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 11:23:16 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Back in the 1960's the reporters reported the facts only, no conjecture, no opinion, no trying to sway public opinion. The movie portrayed officer Ramiro Martinez as being a victim of racism against Hispanics. My parents knew Martinez in later years - He told them that there was no racism involved, and that he resented the inaccuracies in the movie. Yeah, the movie showed him on the verge of emotional collapse and shitting his pants, etc. Also had John Forsythe playing a police LT that was shitting his pants over all the civilians coming out and shooting at Whitman. Even then (1975) I could tell there was a strong lefty taint to the movie. |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 11:24:25 AM EDT
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No "Assault Weapons" either. Closest would probably be the M1 Carbine SHOOTING: August 1, 1966 The AR-15 was in existence then...but not popular. Colt acquired the rights to manufacture the AR-15 on September 30, 1959. You also had the FN FAL (designed 1943, produced 1947), the M1 Carbine, the AK-47 (designed 1947, production started 1949)... What you fail to remember is this was PRE-1986... So they had even more evil guns than these crappy "assault weapons"... They had full blown MACHINE GUNS!! Desert_AIP is talking about the weapons Whitman used, i'm assuming. Nope, based on the Bold/Red part highlighted, he was conveying that there were no assault weapons other than the M1 Garand at the time. Whitman had an M1 Carbine. There is no mention of an M1 rifle. |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 11:24:43 AM EDT
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Back in the 1960's the reporters reported the facts only, no conjecture, no opinion, no trying to sway public opinion. The movie portrayed officer Ramiro Martinez as being a victim of racism against Hispanics. My parents knew Martinez in later years - He told them that there was no racism involved, and that he resented the inaccuracies in the movie. Yeah, the movie showed him on the verge of emotional collapse and shitting his pants, etc. Also had John Forsythe playing a police LT that was shitting his pants over all the civilians coming out and shooting at Whitman. Even then (1975) I could tell there was a strong lefty taint to the movie. Big difference between news reporters and hollywood movie makers. News reporters are held to a code of ethics, hollywood has never been. |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 11:25:22 AM EDT
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No "Assault Weapons" either. Closest would probably be the M1 Carbine SHOOTING: August 1, 1966 The AR-15 was in existence then...but not popular. Colt acquired the rights to manufacture the AR-15 on September 30, 1959. You also had the FN FAL (designed 1943, produced 1947), the M1 Carbine, the AK-47 (designed 1947, production started 1949)... What you fail to remember is this was PRE-1986... So they had even more evil guns than these crappy "assault weapons"... They had full blown MACHINE GUNS!! Desert_AIP is talking about the weapons Whitman used, i'm assuming. Nope, based on the Bold/Red part highlighted, he was conveying that there were no assault weapons other than the M1 Garand at the time.
I took it that he meant the closest thing to an "assault weapon" that Whitman had was his M1 Carbine. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Ah....possibly |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 11:27:06 AM EDT
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I can't believe he forgot toilet paper.
That's pretty short-sighted of him. |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 11:32:04 AM EDT
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White men are racist and hate women, that's why those reports are so unemotional.
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Posted: 12/21/2012 11:32:10 AM EDT
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I can't believe he forgot toilet paper. That's pretty short-sighted of him. http://murderpedia.org/male.W/images/whitman_charles/shooting/1018.jpg Isn't that a roll in the bottom left? |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 11:32:17 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: No "Assault Weapons" either. Closest would probably be the M1 Carbine SHOOTING: August 1, 1966 The AR-15 was in existence then...but not popular. Colt acquired the rights to manufacture the AR-15 on September 30, 1959. You also had the FN FAL (designed 1943, produced 1947), the M1 Carbine, the AK-47 (designed 1947, production started 1949)... What you fail to remember is this was PRE-1986... So they had even more evil guns than these crappy "assault weapons"... They had full blown MACHINE GUNS!! Desert_AIP is talking about the weapons Whitman used, i'm assuming. Nope, based on the Bold/Red part highlighted, he was conveying that there were no assault weapons other than the M1 Garand at the time. Other than the M1 carbine he bought the morning of the shooting? |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 11:34:33 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: I can't believe he forgot toilet paper. That's pretty short-sighted of him. http://murderpedia.org/male.W/images/whitman_charles/shooting/1018.jpg Isn't that a roll in the bottom left? Yep, and he even brought a Combat Hammer, a Combat Hatchet, and a Combat Pipe Wrench. |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 11:44:08 AM EDT
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Quoted: I can't believe he forgot toilet paper. That's pretty short-sighted of him. http://murderpedia.org/male.W/images/whitman_charles/shooting/1018.jpg bottom left looks to be a roll. |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 11:47:44 AM EDT
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I can't believe he forgot toilet paper. That's pretty short-sighted of him. http://murderpedia.org/male.W/images/whitman_charles/shooting/1018.jpg Isn't that a roll in the bottom left? Yep, and he even brought a Combat Hammer, a Combat Hatchet, and a Combat Pipe Wrench. To hell with those things, he had the tactical spam, and the Combat raisins! A SIX count assault combat pack of 'em!! Oh, the huMANity!!!
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Posted: 12/21/2012 12:01:38 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: I can't believe he forgot toilet paper. That's pretty short-sighted of him. http://murderpedia.org/male.W/images/whitman_charles/shooting/1018.jpg Isn't that a roll in the bottom left? Yep, and he even brought a Combat Hammer, a Combat Hatchet, and a Combat Pipe Wrench. To hell with those things, he had the tactical spam, and the Combat raisins! A SIX count assault combat pack of 'em!! Oh, the huMANity!!! The disturbing thing about all the preps these guys do is that it takes weeks and months to plan and acquire all the stuff they use, and all the while they're interacting with people and no one has a clue what they're up to (most of the time). |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 2:02:43 PM EDT
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Whitman, besides being an ex-Marine, was also an Eagle Scout. He probably had that trunk
full of stuff for "camping." A friend's wife used to live in the house where Whitman murdered his mother. She was clueless until a reporter doing a story came around one evening and told her. Of course this was 20+ years after the fact. Still, I don't think she renewed her lease! |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 2:07:13 PM EDT
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I wasn't alive during this...but I am awestruck at the solemn reverence that the reporters had while reporting facts alone. That was before Woodward and Bernstein's Pulitzer Prize for Watergate coverage and taking down a presidency singlehanded. My father was a newspaper publisher for several years. The mindset of new reporters changed a lot after Woodward & Bernstien. Has only gotten worse since. |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 2:11:14 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: No "Assault Weapons" either. Closest would probably be the M1 Carbine SHOOTING: August 1, 1966 The AR-15 was in existance then...but not popular. Colt aquired the rights to manufacture the AR-15 on September 30, 1959. You also had the FN FAL (designed 1943, producted 1947), the M1 Carbine, the AK-47 (designed 1947, production started 1949)... What you fail to remember is this was PRE-1986... So they had even more evil guns than these crappy "assault weapons"... They had full blown MACHINE GUNS!! Pretty sure there were virtually no FALs or AKs in private citizens' hands in 1966. But yeah, the AR-15 (Colt SP1) was on the market by then. |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 2:13:58 PM EDT
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I was thinking about this incident the other day.
56 years and several major gun control laws later, and we still have nuts shooting up schools. We've tried it their way for too long. Fuck the liberal gun grabbing cockfags! Nut up or shut up! |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 2:18:07 PM EDT
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No "Assault Weapons" either. Closest would probably be the M1 Carbine SHOOTING: August 1, 1966 The AR-15 was in existence then...but not popular. Colt acquired the rights to manufacture the AR-15 on September 30, 1959. You also had the FN FAL (designed 1943, produced 1947), the M1 Carbine, the AK-47 (designed 1947, production started 1949)... What you fail to remember is this was PRE-1986... So they had even more evil guns than these crappy "assault weapons"... They had full blown MACHINE GUNS!! Desert_AIP is talking about the weapons Whitman used, i'm assuming. Nope, based on the Bold/Red part highlighted, he was conveying that there were no assault weapons other than the M1 Garand at the time.
I took it that he meant the closest thing to an "assault weapon" that Whitman had was his M1 Carbine. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Ah....possibly Sorry for the confusion, that's what I meant. In my addled state I neglected to include the word "used" As in, "No 'Assault Weapons' were used." Making the case that "Assault Weapons" are a red herring. These people want to ban ALL guns, and they believe in incrementalism. They mean to divide and conquer us one piece at a time. Those who give up AWs now will see their "sniper rifles" and "combat shotguns" go next. |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 2:25:43 PM EDT
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"and some citizens that were deputized when they offered their services"
That would never happen today. Citizens aren't professional enough. In Texas, hell yeah it can. A peace officer can summon a sufficient number of citizens of his county to effect whatever he is trying to do. Doesn't happen very much, but it is law. |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 2:25:48 PM EDT
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Quoted: I was thinking about this incident the other day. 56 46 years and several major gun control laws later, and we still have nuts shooting up schools. We've tried it their way for too long. Fuck the liberal gun grabbing cockfags! Nut up or shut up! Back then you could mail order rifles, shotguns, and handguns right to your home. That was stopped by the 1968 GCA. We didn't have school massacres back then before all those gun laws, and didn't have cops and metal detectors in schools. It was unthinkable. The mid-1960's onward saw a steady erosion of the American culture and values. The Leave It To Beaver / Father Knows Best / Happy Days setting disappeared forever, to be replaced by the drug culture, the welfare culture, the gangsta culture. |
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Posted: 12/21/2012 2:29:01 PM EDT
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I was there -- on campus -- when this happened. Some of the people were shot because they stood around like dunces, trying to find the source of the gunfire, instead of taking cover. Their curiosity killed them.
An armed civilian, with an M1 carbine, helped Officer Martinez bring Whitman down. Whitman was hunkered down in one corner of the tower parapet, from which he could cover the two possible approaches. Martinez and the civilian each took one of the approaches, and they were in equal danger. |
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