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Posted: 1/19/2013 7:58:17 AM EDT
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Mags would be a royal bitch to find for it and prohibitively expensive. This. Cheaper and easier to just buy some fucking .308. So the same argument could be made with all of the 300BLK, 6.5, 6.8. Just get a 308 right? ok. I'll start by saying that the 300 win mag ar is the coolest thing I've seen this week and is my new reason for saving. also, my 6.8 came in handy last summer on a hog hunt when a buddy carried an ar-10. he thought his was great until about a mile later in our hike in the heat. 7lb rifle > 12lb rifle in the field. 12 pounds? My AR10A2 carbine weighs about 9 pounds. |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 8:05:48 AM EDT
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Mags would be a royal bitch to find for it and prohibitively expensive. This. Cheaper and easier to just buy some fucking .308. So the same argument could be made with all of the 300BLK, 6.5, 6.8. Just get a 308 right? Not nessacerily those fit in AR15s, and I'm ditching my Grendel in favor of a MA-TEN. I see your reasoning behind this but, it would be financially prohibitive for a company to do this souly for 06. Now if someone created a AR platform that could be chambered in ANY long action round that would be worth doing |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 8:10:55 AM EDT
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Why? You can load the .308 Winchester to '06 levels with modern powders, or you could chamber an AR10-ish rifle in .260 or 7mm-08 remington and have a better trajectory than an '06. I mean, really, I've been shootiung an '06 for 30 years now, but do you really need all the extra expense to make an '06-length AR when you could have a .308 right now? Came to post this. My sierra reloading book says that the 06 is all but matched by the .308 so why bother? You know what....you guys are right. I don't "need" a rifle chambered in 30-06, so why should I bother. There are some people who think that you don't need a rifle with a "Hi Cap" mag as well, so why bother? 
It is a good idea guys. It may also bring in some of the FUDDs that own 30-06 bolt rifles who are against "Assault Rifles" to pause and think, and maybe, just maybe bring them over to the dark side. 
It's a terrible idea. 308 is almost identical ballistics, 308 ARs are already on the market, you'd have to design mags from scratch, and there would be zero market for it. |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 8:22:05 AM EDT
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that 300win makes my pants happy.
besides the "only" ammo I can find is 300winmag |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 8:29:06 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why? You can load the .308 Winchester to '06 levels with modern powders, or you could chamber an AR10-ish rifle in .260 or 7mm-08 remington and have a better trajectory than an '06. I mean, really, I've been shootiung an '06 for 30 years now, but do you really need all the extra expense to make an '06-length AR when you could have a .308 right now? Came to post this. My sierra reloading book says that the 06 is all but matched by the .308 so why bother? You know what....you guys are right. I don't "need" a rifle chambered in 30-06, so why should I bother. There are some people who think that you don't need a rifle with a "Hi Cap" mag as well, so why bother? It is a good idea guys. It may also bring in some of the FUDDs that own 30-06 bolt rifles who are against "Assault Rifles" to pause and think, and maybe, just maybe bring them over to the dark side. It's a terrible idea. 308 is almost identical ballistics, 308 ARs are already on the market, you'd have to design mags from scratch, and there would be zero market for it.  I'd love to see .308 push 180gr at 2800 fps. |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 8:30:46 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/19/2013 8:33:44 AM EDT
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Posted: 1/19/2013 8:36:53 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: .30-06 is your grandpappy's caliber. The next generation of ARs are chambered in .300 Winchester Magnum. Oh Hell Yeah !!!!   
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Posted: 1/19/2013 8:41:12 AM EDT
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This thing has been tested by all the cool kids. Recon this, recon that, special this and that... you get the idea. Anyhow, it's a total win. I plan to own one soon! |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 8:42:17 AM EDT
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I wouldn't mind an AR based SBR with a 30 round mag in 338 lapua.  $150 mag dumps
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Posted: 1/19/2013 8:44:24 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Why? You can load the .308 Winchester to '06 levels with modern powders, or you could chamber an AR10-ish rifle in .260 or 7mm-08 remington and have a better trajectory than an '06. I mean, really, I've been shootiung an '06 for 30 years now, but do you really need all the extra expense to make an '06-length AR when you could have a .308 right now? Because I don't want to buy another caliber of rifle ammo? I have a bolt rifle in 30-06.....I would love to have a mag fed semi in 30-06. So you've got enough ammo on the shelf to defray the cost of a $3k custom long-action semiauto build? So that's where all the Korean CMP shit went. |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 8:46:41 AM EDT
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I would rather have it in 7.2x54r
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Posted: 1/19/2013 8:48:57 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: I wouldn't mind an AR based SBR with a 30 round mag in 338 lapua. $150 mag dumps No kidding. LOL |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 8:56:00 AM EDT
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I'll take one right now. Walmart closest to me only had 30-06... Like 20+ boxes.
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Posted: 1/19/2013 9:10:43 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why? You can load the .308 Winchester to '06 levels with modern powders, or you could chamber an AR10-ish rifle in .260 or 7mm-08 remington and have a better trajectory than an '06. I mean, really, I've been shootiung an '06 for 30 years now, but do you really need all the extra expense to make an '06-length AR when you could have a .308 right now? Came to post this. My sierra reloading book says that the 06 is all but matched by the .308 so why bother? You know what....you guys are right. I don't "need" a rifle chambered in 30-06, so why should I bother. There are some people who think that you don't need a rifle with a "Hi Cap" mag as well, so why bother? It is a good idea guys. It may also bring in some of the FUDDs that own 30-06 bolt rifles who are against "Assault Rifles" to pause and think, and maybe, just maybe bring them over to the dark side. No one is saying you shouldn't be able to have one, but you are demanding that someone make one for you. I bet it would cost a ton, and few would be able to justify one, based on the responses here. |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 9:14:40 AM EDT
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see if you can find a Cobb ar-whatever. They actually made a 30-06 AR I have looked and did some research on them, and they got really mixed reviews. I want a reliable, high quality rifle. I have a stealth upper 5.56, I want one in 30-06 with a billet lower, with good reliable mags.
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Posted: 1/19/2013 9:40:29 AM EDT
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Quoted: see if you can find a Cobb ar-whatever. They actually made a 30-06 AR I have some exposure to one in 338 Lapua. It's not been as reliable as we hoped. |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 6:20:24 PM EDT
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Why can't I have one?? LaRue....are you listening??? 
Please?? If you wish hard enough it comes true |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 6:43:09 PM EDT
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OP.. If your going to Step it up a Notch..
Go all they way 
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Posted: 1/19/2013 6:51:24 PM EDT
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Be cheaper to sell the 06 and ammo and pick up the .308...prolly even in today's market.
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Posted: 1/19/2013 7:00:38 PM EDT
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OP, I support your idea. Granted, its mostly because I would love to see an AR pattern rifle fire the 8mm Mauser cartridge, and the 8 has the same rim and is only about 1/10" shorter overall, so all I would have to do is rebarrel and I could have something to go with my M98
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Posted: 1/19/2013 10:11:21 PM EDT
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I want a custom 7.62x54r Shrike upper on a registered M-16 lower. Because...cheap fireballs. |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 10:14:08 PM EDT
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I want a custom 7.62x54r Shrike upper on a registered M-16 lower.
Because...cheap fireballs.
Silvertips + beltfed = death to any and all civilian vehicles.
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Posted: 1/19/2013 10:40:49 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Why? You can load the .308 Winchester to '06 levels with modern powders, or you could chamber an AR10-ish rifle in .260 or 7mm-08 remington and have a better trajectory than an '06. I mean, really, I've been shootiung an '06 for 30 years now, but do you really need all the extra expense to make an '06-length AR when you could have a .308 right now? Because I don't want to buy another caliber of rifle ammo? I have a bolt rifle in 30-06.....I would love to have a mag fed semi in 30-06.  |
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Posted: 1/19/2013 11:05:25 PM EDT
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Quoted: lol they ARE obsolete. We have performance cars now that can go fast AND turn without killing every one in a 2 block radius. Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Why? You can load the .308 Winchester to '06 levels with modern powders, or you could chamber an AR10-ish rifle in .260 or 7mm-08 remington and have a better trajectory than an '06. I mean, really, I've been shootiung an '06 for 30 years now, but do you really need all the extra expense to make an '06-length AR when you could have a .308 right now? Came to post this. My sierra reloading book says that the 06 is all but matched by the .308 so why bother? You know what....you guys are right. I don't "need" a rifle chambered in 30-06, so why should I bother. There are some people who think that you don't need a rifle with a "Hi Cap" mag as well, so why bother? It is a good idea guys. It may also bring in some of the FUDDs that own 30-06 bolt rifles who are against "Assault Rifles" to pause and think, and maybe, just maybe bring them over to the dark side. Oh get over yourself. An AR chambered in your obsolete pet caliber does not do anything that cannot be accomplished by a lighter, smaller AR15 or AR10. It's called "progress." Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Note to everyone, note to every one, no more muscle cars, they're obsolete, no reason for you to have them. Also I take back what I said in my first post. Op got his point accost. He wants it cause he wants it. Perfectly acceptable answer. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 6:56:02 AM EDT
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Ohio Ordnance Works sells a semiautomatic BAR. They look nice and I wonder if you could get some kind of slip on stock to give it the AR type look.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 7:00:41 AM EDT
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Quoted: Why? You can load the .308 Winchester to '06 levels with modern powders, or you could chamber an AR10-ish rifle in .260 or 7mm-08 remington and have a better trajectory than an '06. I mean, really, I've been shootiung an '06 for 30 years now, but do you really need all the extra expense to make an '06-length AR when you could have a .308 right now? |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 7:11:12 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: see if you can find a Cobb ar-whatever. They actually made a 30-06 AR I have looked and did some research on them, and they got really mixed reviews. I want a reliable, high quality rifle. I have a stealth upper 5.56, I want one in 30-06 with a billet lower, with good reliable mags. Probably no one makes them because of the high investment cost in development and tooling would not be supported by the low volume of sales unless it was hideously expensive. Besides a larger lower receiver (bigger magazine well), the buffer would have to be designed and the gas system developed. You could re-chamber .308 / 7.62 NATO barrels. If it wasn't a proprietary magazine you could use modified BAR (M1918) magazines. And since .308 Win / 7.62x51mm gives you .30'06 like ballistics in a shorter cartridge (basically ".30'06 Short"), it's really a niche idea. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 7:16:51 AM EDT
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I would buy a 30.06 AR in a skinny minute. Why? Because.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 7:17:48 AM EDT
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I would buy a 30.06 AR in a skinny minute. Why? Because. Exactly! |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 7:18:07 AM EDT
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Quoted: Remington 750 / 7500 Woodsmaster? There are ten round magazines and I've seen one with a Knoxx pistol grip stock (the 870) kind)Quoted: Why? You can load the .308 Winchester to '06 levels with modern powders, or you could chamber an AR10-ish rifle in .260 or 7mm-08 remington and have a better trajectory than an '06. I mean, really, I've been shootiung an '06 for 30 years now, but do you really need all the extra expense to make an '06-length AR when you could have a .308 right now? Because I don't want to buy another caliber of rifle ammo? I have a bolt rifle in 30-06.....I would love to have a mag fed semi in 30-06. Semiautomatic M1918A3? |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 7:20:45 AM EDT
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Quoted: Could you make an upper that feeds from a left side magazine and ejects down though the magwell? You could make it use BAR mags. Something like the Johnson LMG, that can be slapped on a stock AR10 lower. The upper would have to be at least 12mm longer to utilize the longer cartride (.30'06 is 7.62x63mm and .308 Win is 7.62x51mm). |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 7:21:20 AM EDT
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.30-06 is your grandpappy's caliber. The next generation of ARs are chambered in .300 Winchester Magnum. 
The want is strong. I'll have to make the 30 caliber bullets to be able to afford to shoot that beast.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 7:23:07 AM EDT
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Quoted: Failures, all of you. OP, I present to you the rifle that you really don't want, even if you think you do: http://www.defensereview.com/1_31_2004/CobbMCR200.jpg Saw one at Knob Creek years ago...think it was around $2-3k even back then. IIRC, Cobb built 100 of them for the 100th anniversary of the aught-six. The red "X"? |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 7:26:27 AM EDT
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Quoted: http://onlylongrange.com/ Noreen Firearms is producing a .30-06 AR platform, along with a .338 Lapua AR. These rifles are produced in Bozeman Montana 100 miles from my house. I have met Pete and his son Phill and they are great guys with a great product. No mentioned on their pricing page and 5 or 10 round magazines? Bolt-on picatinny rails? I think they moved on to their .338 Lapua gun. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 7:29:57 AM EDT
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see if you can find a Cobb ar-whatever. They actually made a 30-06 AR I have some exposure to one in 338 Lapua. It's not been as reliable as we hoped. .338 Norma Magnum would have been a better choice. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 7:34:01 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Mags would be a royal bitch to find for it and prohibitively expensive. This. Cheaper and easier to just buy some fucking .308. So the same argument could be made with all of the 300BLK, 6.5, 6.8. Just get a 308 right? ok. I'll start by saying that the 300 win mag ar is the coolest thing I've seen this week and is my new reason for saving. also, my 6.8 came in handy last summer on a hog hunt when a buddy carried an ar-10. he thought his was great until about a mile later in our hike in the heat. 7lb rifle > 12lb rifle in the field. 12 pounds? My AR10A2 carbine weighs about 9 pounds. My M1918A3 weighs just shy of 20 lb, unloaded. Loaded, it's 22 lb (with carrying handle, sling and bipod it's around 25 lb). |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 7:35:49 AM EDT
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My M1918A3 weighs just shy of 20 lb, unloaded. Loaded, it's 22 lb (with carrying handle, sling and bipod it's around 25 lb). Recoil? What the fuck is recoil?
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Posted: 1/20/2013 7:40:39 AM EDT
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see if you can find a Cobb ar-whatever. They actually made a 30-06 AR I have looked and did some research on them, and they got really mixed reviews. I want a reliable, high quality rifle. I have a stealth upper 5.56, I want one in 30-06 with a billet lower, with good reliable mags. I'm not a ballistics guy, so this is why I'm asking: While I absolutely LOVE this idea, would the 30-06 be the best round? Is there a better round, for the dimensions the rifle would have to be made at? I do see the benefits of 30-06: Especially in regards to availability and pre-existing reloading supplies/setups... But for someone like Mr. LaRue to invest the money into such a setup, is the 30-06 the best platform for that? What do some of you knowledgeable guys think? |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 7:42:40 AM EDT
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see if you can find a Cobb ar-whatever. They actually made a 30-06 AR I have looked and did some research on them, and they got really mixed reviews. I want a reliable, high quality rifle. I have a stealth upper 5.56, I want one in 30-06 with a billet lower, with good reliable mags. I'm not a ballistics guy, so this is why I'm asking: While I absolutely LOVE this idea, would the 30-06 be the best round? Is there a better round, for the dimensions the rifle would have to be made at? I do see the benefits of 30-06: Especially in regards to availability and pre-existing reloading supplies/setups... But for someone like Mr. LaRue to invest the money into such a setup, is the 30-06 the best platform for that? What do some of you knowledgeable guys think? Would it not be so simple as reaming a .308 barrel to .30-06, and stretching the receivers and BCG of a .308 in a CAD program? |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 7:48:13 AM EDT
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AR15 is 5.56... AR10 is 7.62x51 So... .30-06 should be called AR5? Sure....don't care what they call it, they could call it the dildo homo rifle and I would still get it. 
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Posted: 1/20/2013 7:51:29 AM EDT
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OP, I support your idea. Granted, its mostly because I would love to see an AR pattern rifle fire the 8mm Mauser cartridge, and the 8 has the same rim and is only about 1/10" shorter overall, so all I would have to do is rebarrel and I could have something to go with my M98 I was thinking about a quick change barrel. It would open up all sorts of calibers. 8 mm Mauser, 30-06, 270 win. Even obscure rounds like 7.7 jap. |
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Posted: 1/20/2013 7:54:40 AM EDT
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OP, I support your idea. Granted, its mostly because I would love to see an AR pattern rifle fire the 8mm Mauser cartridge, and the 8 has the same rim and is only about 1/10" shorter overall, so all I would have to do is rebarrel and I could have something to go with my M98 I was thinking about a quick change barrel. It would open up all sorts of calibers. 8 mm Mauser, 30-06, 270 win. Even obscure rounds like 7.7 jap. 6.5x55 Ackley Improved
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Posted: 1/20/2013 8:27:40 AM EDT
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Now what stock is that one? I would buy my friends SOCOM for that mod right there.....
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http://nemoarms.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/new-omen-spec-ops-tiger-300-win-mag-ar-nemo.jpg This thing has been tested by all the cool kids. Recon this, recon that, special this and that... you get the idea. Anyhow, it's a total win. I plan to own one soon! Who is it made by and can it shoot .30-06?
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Why? You can load the .308 Winchester to '06 levels with modern powders, or you could chamber an AR10-ish rifle in .260 or 7mm-08 remington and have a better trajectory than an '06. I mean, really, I've been shootiung an '06 for 30 years now, but do you really need all the extra expense to make an '06-length AR when you could have a .308 right now? Because I don't want to buy another caliber of rifle ammo? I have a bolt rifle in 30-06.....I would love to have a mag fed semi in 30-06. https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-XdZpP0KNpEk/Ti0R4Hlkq3I/AAAAAAAABWs/K0feHOx0ze4/s1280/garand1.jpg Please tell me it shoots .30-06 and where i can buy one....
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Posted: 1/20/2013 8:43:09 AM EDT
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Cag, google Troy MCS M1A
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Posted: 1/20/2013 8:53:04 AM EDT
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Cag, google Troy MCS M1A And my wallet just got a helluva lot lighter.
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Posted: 1/20/2013 9:46:40 AM EDT
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Hey guys,
For those who want a long action AR rifle, checkout millersprecision. They are mamaking a long action AR and check out LOSOK Customs arms. He is making the Valkyr rifle that is a mag feed 30.06 rifle based on the garand. kingwolf |
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