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Posted: 4/27/2013 6:54:31 PM EDT
Shorter by almost 1/2 '.
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Posted: 4/27/2013 6:57:41 PM EDT
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How long is the AUG and what is the minimum legal length? 26"?
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Posted: 4/27/2013 6:57:43 PM EDT
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Carefull-you're going to give some nimrod politician ideas.
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:00:01 PM EDT
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But an sbr will balance better. I have an aug and love it, but it isn't exactly an sbr in weight and handling
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:01:48 PM EDT
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Bullpups = fail.
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:03:14 PM EDT
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Quoted: How long is the AUG and what is the minimum legal length? 26"? 26"is minimum OAL both guns pictured are somewhere around 30" |
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:03:22 PM EDT
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Nice. Where can I buy one?
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:04:29 PM EDT
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Bullpups = fail. I do not like having the chamber that close to my face. You should try a stock on a pistol like a Broomhandle. Knowing in the event of a slide failure it is going through your eye. |
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:04:52 PM EDT
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Nice. Where can I buy one? |
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:06:20 PM EDT
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If I had to carry a rifle daily in a low risk enviroment I would carry a bullpup.
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:07:38 PM EDT
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Bullpups = fail. I do not like having the chamber that close to my face. You should try a stock on a pistol like a Broomhandle. Knowing in the event of a slide failure it is going through your eye. I owned one and never shot it with the stock because of that concern. |
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:07:58 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:09:00 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:09:43 PM EDT
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But an sbr will balance better. I have an aug and love it, but it isn't exactly an sbr in weight and handling True that, but I can drive over to Louisiana with it in my car with out having to carry two ATF formes. 
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:09:45 PM EDT
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Bullpups = fail. I do not like having the chamber that close to my face. 
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:12:43 PM EDT
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Bullpups = fail. I do not like having the chamber that close to my face. You are aware that your face is substantially closer to the chamber of a Bullpup ? Its a valid concern, ever watched a KB in an AR15 personally? I have and it did not injure the shooter because it was not close enough to his face to hurt him. He got some gas blow back but other than that he was ok . If it happens with a bull pup your face is going to be much closer or over it depending on the rifle. No thanks |
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:13:45 PM EDT
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Nice. Where can I buy one? 1988 |
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:14:19 PM EDT
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Nice. Where can I buy one? 1988 Uh no they are making new ones here in the US . Aug A3 Atlantic Firearms. |
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:17:53 PM EDT
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Bullpups = fail. I do not like having the chamber that close to my face. Your understanding of physics= fail. |
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:18:22 PM EDT
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I have one of the US made clones, TPD AXR. I like it alot.
If I were buying one today, I'd get an A3 CQT Nato 
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:18:38 PM EDT
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Have had 2 AUG's since they came in the country back in the '80s. My favorite is the black stocked 16" barreled one. I don't shoot the green 20" barreled one much anymore.
The chamber close to the face argument is so stupid. I shot bullpup .50's for almost 15 yrs. Blew one up. a .223 isn't shit. 
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:19:36 PM EDT
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But an sbr will balance better. I have an aug and love it, but it isn't exactly an sbr in weight and handling 
Hold an AUG out with one hand in a firing grip. Hold an 11.5" SBR out with one hand in a firing grip. The AUG will be easier to keep on target. |
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:22:21 PM EDT
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Bullpups = fail. I do not like having the chamber that close to my face. Your understanding of physics= fail. Whatever you think ... |
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:25:47 PM EDT
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But an sbr will balance better. I have an aug and love it, but it isn't exactly an sbr in weight and handling
Hold an AUG out with one hand in a firing grip. Hold an 11.5" SBR out with one hand in a firing grip. The AUG will be easier to keep on target. Yeah cause everyone shootz gangsta style. 
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:26:02 PM EDT
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Bullpups = fail. I do not like having the chamber that close to my face. I'm pretty sure they are designed to vent gases etc away from the shooter's face in the unlikely event of a kaboom. |
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:33:31 PM EDT
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But an sbr will balance better. I have an aug and love it, but it isn't exactly an sbr in weight and handling
Hold an AUG out with one hand in a firing grip. Hold an 11.5" SBR out with one hand in a firing grip. The AUG will be easier to keep on target. Yeah cause everyone shootz gangsta style. The point is, that it will be much easier to keep the rifle shouldered and on a target for a longer period of time with the weight more rearward than a SBR. It's also the reason why the IDF wanted something like the TAVOR. |
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:34:30 PM EDT
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Yup, kind of the whole point of a bullpup.
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:35:01 PM EDT
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Bullpups = fail. I do not like having the chamber that close to my face. What ya afraid you wont be pretty?
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:35:43 PM EDT
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Bullpups = fail. I do not like having the chamber that close to my face. I'm pretty sure they are designed to vent gases etc away from the shooter's face in the unlikely event of a kaboom. I understand that, I just do not trust it and do not care for the design . Puts the muzzle flash and blast close also, and the mag changes are not what I like as well. I have watched KB's with other guns and I just am not comfortable with it, not telling you , that you should not get one if you do not have it already. Thats just not something I enjoy, I shot an original AUG years ago not my cup of tea. |
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:35:47 PM EDT
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But an sbr will balance better. I have an aug and love it, but it isn't exactly an sbr in weight and handling
Hold an AUG out with one hand in a firing grip. Hold an 11.5" SBR out with one hand in a firing grip. The AUG will be easier to keep on target. Yeah cause everyone shootz gangsta style. The point is, that it will be much easier to keep the rifle shouldered and on a target for a longer period of time with the weight more rearward than a SBR. It's also the reason why the IDF wanted something like the TAVOR. Exactly, not to mention having it balance to the rear means it will be easier to transition from target to target at a higher speed and get the rifle stopped quicker. |
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:36:17 PM EDT
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Bullpups = fail. I do not like having the chamber that close to my face. What ya afraid you wont be pretty? Uh huh I cant have it messing up my million dollar looks
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:37:03 PM EDT
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Bullpups = fail. I do not like having the chamber that close to my face. I'm pretty sure they are designed to vent gases etc away from the shooter's face in the unlikely event of a kaboom. I understand that, I just do not trust it and do not care for the design . Puts the muzzle flash and blast close also, and the mag changes are not what I like as well. I have watched KB's with other guns and I just am not comfortable with it, not telling you , that you should not get one if you do not have it already. Thats just not something I enjoy, I shot an original AUG years ago not my cup of tea. 
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:38:40 PM EDT
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This must mean everyone will rush out to buy bullpups..oh wait they won't.
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:39:40 PM EDT
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This must mean everyone will rush out to buy bullpups..oh wait they won't. More for me. |
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:40:34 PM EDT
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This must mean everyone will rush out to buy bullpups..oh wait they won't. If I bought one it would be strictly as an investment. It most likely would never get fired, and in truth thats not a bad idea especially with everything going on. I imagine in three years it would be a good return on investment. |
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:42:19 PM EDT
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Bullpups = fail. I do not like having the chamber that close to my face. It's not pretty enough to really be worried about... ETA: rough comparison of an RFB. 
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:42:32 PM EDT
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This must mean everyone will rush out to buy bullpups..oh wait they won't. If I bought one it would be strictly as an investment. It most likely would never get fired, and in truth thats not a bad idea especially with everything going on. I imagine in three years it would be a good return on investment. If you're in an open environment your standard setups will serve you just fine. If you're in a tight urban environment with a LOT of buildings, the bullpup would serve you better, as you could maneuver quicker with a 16" bullpup in a building than a 16" AR or AK, or even a Socom II. |
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:45:13 PM EDT
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Bullpups = fail. I do not like having the chamber that close to my face. It's not pretty enough to really be worried about... ETA: rough comparison of an RFB. <a href="http://s241.photobucket.com/user/devtucker/media/IMG_20130326_205615_309.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/IMG_20130326_205615_309.jpg</a> Keltec  I wrote them off years ago...
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:45:54 PM EDT
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That's why I love my PS90 had to register as a pistol until recent state law change. Unfortunately we can't have SBR in MI so bullpups are good alternatives. Although I love my PS90, I want a SBR real bad
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:46:07 PM EDT
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This must mean everyone will rush out to buy bullpups..oh wait they won't. If I bought one it would be strictly as an investment. It most likely would never get fired, and in truth thats not a bad idea especially with everything going on. I imagine in three years it would be a good return on investment. If you're in an open environment your standard setups will serve you just fine. If you're in a tight urban environment with a LOT of buildings, the bullpup would serve you better, as you could maneuver quicker with a 16" bullpup in a building than a 16" AR or AK, or even a Socom II. I am not disagreeing about the compactness at all. |
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:47:20 PM EDT
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Bullpups = fail. I do not like having the chamber that close to my face. It's not pretty enough to really be worried about... ETA: rough comparison of an RFB. <a href="http://s241.photobucket.com/user/devtucker/media/IMG_20130326_205615_309.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/IMG_20130326_205615_309.jpg</a> Keltec I wrote them off years ago...Well I bought my RFB years ago, zero problems...
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:48:53 PM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: But an sbr will balance better. I have an aug and love it, but it isn't exactly an sbr in weight and handling Hold an AUG out with one hand in a firing grip. Hold an 11.5" SBR out with one hand in a firing grip. The AUG will be easier to keep on target. Yeah cause everyone shootz gangsta style. the point is that the AUG has its center of gravity right at the pistol grip |
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:50:19 PM EDT
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Quoted: Shorter by almost 1/2 '. http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq314/Pacs100/ass_zps5ea8c432.jpg And it doesn't need a stamp. now whats the length difference with the stock on the SBR at the position its normally used in? |
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:51:04 PM EDT
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love my msar stg 556
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Posted: 4/27/2013 7:51:53 PM EDT
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Bullpups = fail. I do not like having the chamber that close to my face. It's not pretty enough to really be worried about... ETA: rough comparison of an RFB. <a href="http://s241.photobucket.com/user/devtucker/media/IMG_20130326_205615_309.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/IMG_20130326_205615_309.jpg</a> Keltec I wrote them off years ago...Well I bought my RFB years ago, zero problems... I am glad you got a good Keltec product. |
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Posted: 4/27/2013 8:05:03 PM EDT
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Shorter by almost 1/2 '. http://i459.photobucket.com/albums/qq314/Pacs100/ass_zps5ea8c432.jpg And it doesn't need a stamp. now whats the length difference with the stock on the SBR at the position its normally used in? Usually shoot the SBR one click back from full closed, so SBR about 1 1/2" longer or so. |
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Posted: 4/27/2013 8:08:24 PM EDT
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Bullpups = fail. I do not like having the chamber that close to my face. It's not pretty enough to really be worried about... ETA: rough comparison of an RFB. <a href="http://s241.photobucket.com/user/devtucker/media/IMG_20130326_205615_309.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff206/devtucker/IMG_20130326_205615_309.jpg</a> Keltec I wrote them off years ago...Well I bought my RFB years ago, zero problems... I am glad you got a good Keltec product. I've seen too many 380s go let alone 308s |
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Posted: 4/27/2013 8:09:55 PM EDT
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Bullpups = fail. I do not like having the chamber that close to my face. 
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Posted: 4/27/2013 8:11:14 PM EDT
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Bullpups = fail. I do not like having the chamber that close to my face. Your understanding of physics= fail. Whatever you think ... Ahh a well articulated rebuttal, "whatever", to bad you didn't pull the coup de gras and answer with a "NA Uhh" |
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Posted: 4/27/2013 8:11:44 PM EDT
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I've seen too many 380s go let alone 308s Go? Go where? There's 2 layers of 1/16" steel between the chamber and the shooter in the event of a case rupture. |
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Posted: 4/27/2013 8:13:05 PM EDT
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Bullpups = fail. I do not like having the chamber that close to my face. A decent number of folks have expressed your same attitude. I've got a PS90 and am not too worried about the repercussions of a malfunction. Something larger like a .223 or .308, however, does make me a bit nervous. Obviously something makes you feel differently. Can you expand on what that is? |
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