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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:40:06 PM EDT
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BC its simi
 
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:40:23 PM EDT
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BC its simi Nope. |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:40:30 PM EDT
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because the M-15 was essentially a LMG variant of the M14 that was never adopted
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:40:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: BC its simi And not. Mil So that explains the M1 Garand and M1 Carbine
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:41:34 PM EDT
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because the M-15 was essentially a LMG variant of the M14 that was never adopted 
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:42:23 PM EDT
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We should have kept the ole M-13's!!!
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:42:58 PM EDT
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because the M-15 was essentially a LMG variant of the M14 that was never adopted Interesting, I never knew that. That is too bad though, m15 would have been pretty cool considering the original model name. |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:43:02 PM EDT
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Because of that shoulder thingy that goes up!
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:44:04 PM EDT
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because the M-15 was essentially a LMG variant of the M14 that was never adopted i didn't know that, but suspected something like it. "name already taken." |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:45:00 PM EDT
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So M2 rifle to M13 rifle?
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:45:02 PM EDT
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I want to know where the M5 through M13s went. Isn't anyone just a little concerned about that? They've gone missing and no one cares!
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:45:44 PM EDT
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AR15 Armalite
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:45:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So M2 rifle to M13 rifle? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile  M3 subgun also
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:46:28 PM EDT
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Why did we get the m4 after the m16?
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:47:08 PM EDT
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Because some people just like to see the world burn
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:47:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Why did we get the m4 after the m16? |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:47:45 PM EDT
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Why did we get the m4 after the m16? thats the next thing I was wondering |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:48:57 PM EDT
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Because AR15 was an Armalite designation. It was brought in under the XM-16 designation as an experimental rifle. Once it was adopted it became the M-16.
Numbers get skipped because at some point, those numbers were designations for experimental and discarded ideas. Many of which can only be seen in photos. |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:51:28 PM EDT
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M1 garand rifle
M1 Carbine M2 carbine M3 submachinegun M4 rifle M9 pistol M11 pistol M14 rifle M16 rifle anyone want to add? |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:52:07 PM EDT
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M4 is a carbine, not a rifle.
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:53:10 PM EDT
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Why did we go from the M79 to M203 to the M320? Were there that many grenade launchers in-between???
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:53:30 PM EDT
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M2 carbine, look it up.
M3 subgun also Quote HistoryQuoted:
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So M2 rifle to M13 rifle? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile
M3 subgun also And that's a carbine and not a rifle. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:53:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: BC its simi And not. Mil "AR15" is not synonymous with "semi-auto":  |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:54:26 PM EDT
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p-38 plane, p-38 can opener, m1 garand, m1 carbine, m4 carbine, m4 tank. etc, etc.
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:54:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: "AR15" is not synonymous with "semi-auto": Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: BC its simi And not. Mil "AR15" is not synonymous with "semi-auto": |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:55:52 PM EDT
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So M2 rifle to M13 rifle? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Never adopted. No idea what they were though. |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:56:12 PM EDT
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M1 garand rifleM1 Carbine M2 carbine M3 submachinegun M4 rifle M9 pistol M11 pistol M14 rifle M16 rifle M24 rifle anyone want to add? |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:57:05 PM EDT
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Because AR means Assault Rifle
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:58:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: M1 garand rifle M1 Carbine M2 carbine M3 submachinegun M4 rifle M9 pistol M11 pistol M14 rifle M16 rifle anyone want to add? M68 frag grenade M69 practice grenade
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:59:05 PM EDT
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Why did we go from the M79 to M203 to the M320? Were there that many grenade launchers in-between??? The numbers increased simply due to the additional magnitudes of awesomeness of a 40mm.
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:59:18 PM EDT
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M1 garand rifleM1 Carbine M2 carbine M3 submachinegun M3 carbine M4 rifle M9 pistol M11 pistol M14 rifle M15 rifle/LMG M15 pistol M16 rifle M21 rifle M24 rifle anyone want to add? There have been times that the military used the civilian designation, such as the M15 pistol. |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 4:59:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: And that's a carbine and not a rifle. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: So M2 rifle to M13 rifle? Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile M3 subgun also And that's a carbine and not a rifle. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 5:00:16 PM EDT
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The military does shit that makes sense only in the most convoluted way?!? No, that can't be!
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Posted: 7/31/2013 5:02:13 PM EDT
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I think we should have stuck with the pre-WW2 system of using the year of adoption in a weapon's name: M1911, M1903, M1918, etc.
So the M16 should have been the M1964. |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 5:02:38 PM EDT
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We should have kept the ole M-13's!!! We did; 
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Posted: 7/31/2013 5:04:15 PM EDT
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Because AR means Assault Rifle
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Posted: 7/31/2013 5:04:40 PM EDT
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AR stands for "Assault Rifle". Many people think it stands for "Automatic Rifle" but that's only for fully automatic variations of it. The select-fire version is the "Assault Rifle" which can be full OR semi-auto. The civilian version of it is the "Assault Weapon", but that's ONLY semi-automatic. The numbers refer to the year it was designed (like the 30-06) or to the caliber in millimeters of the bullet it shoots (like the 45mm caliber). Now the AR15 is therefore a selectable-firing Assault Rifle that shoots a 223mm bullet from a 15-round clip (actually it's 14-round clip plus one in the pipe, makes for a total of 15 bullets in the chamber). The M-15 is the "Machine-gun" version of the AR-15, hence the "M" instead of the "AR" which can be confused for "Assault rifle" OR "Automatic rifle". The Military will sometimes use the M-14, but that just means you have to cock the hammer back to load the next round, so it's one less to start with than the AR-15. Guns like the M-1 Grand are bolt-action and so it only shoots one bullet at a time, hence the "1" in M-1. The bullet is much larger in the M-1 too, so that's why it's called the "Grand". If you need to learn more, do what I do and hang around the gunshows. That's where all the experts hang. |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 5:05:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: AR stands for "Assault Rifle". Many people think it stands for "Automatic Rifle" but that's only for fully automatic variations of it. The select-fire version is the "Assault Rifle", which can be full OR semi-auto. The civilian version of it is the "Assault Weapon", but that's ONLY semi-automatic. The numbers refer to the year it was designed (like the 30-06) or to the caliber in millimeters of the bullet it shoots (like the 45mm caliber). Now the AR15 is therefore a selectable-firing Assault Rifle that shoots a 223mm bullet from a 15-round clip (actually it's 14-round clip plus one in the pipe, makes for a total of 15 bullets in the chamber). The M-15 is the "Machine-gun" version of the AR-15, hence the "M" instead of the "AR" which can be confused for "Assault rifle" OR "Automatic rifle". The Military will sometimes use the M-14, but that just means you have to cock the hammer back to load the next round, so it's one less to start with than the AR-15. Guns like the M-1 Grand are bolt-action and so it only shoots one bullet at a time, hence the "1" in M-1. The bullet is much larger in the M-1 too, so that's why it's called the "Grand". If you need to learn more, do what I do and hang around the gunshows. That's where all the experts hang. That's some grade-A trolling right there. |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 5:06:31 PM EDT
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AR stands for "Assault Rifle". Many people think it stands for "Automatic Rifle" but that's only for fully automatic variations of it. The select-fire version is the "Assault Rifle" which can be full OR semi-auto. The civilian version of it is the "Assault Weapon", but that's ONLY semi-automatic. The numbers refer to the year it was designed (like the 30-06) or to the caliber in millimeters of the bullet it shoots (like the 45mm caliber). Now the AR15 is therefore a selectable-firing Assault Rifle that shoots a 223mm bullet from a 15-round clip (actually it's 14-round clip plus one in the pipe, makes for a total of 15 bullets in the chamber). The M-15 is the "Machine-gun" version of the AR-15, hence the "M" instead of the "AR" which can be confused for "Assault rifle" OR "Automatic rifle". The Military will sometimes use the M-14, but that just means you have to cock the hammer back to load the next round, so it's one less to start with than the AR-15. Guns like the M-1 Grand are bolt-action and so it only shoots one bullet at a time, hence the "1" in M-1. The bullet is much larger in the M-1 too, so that's why it's called the "Grand". If you need to learn more, do what I do and hang around the gunshows. That's where all the experts hang. 
Christ. IB4HA In before heart attacks |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 5:08:57 PM EDT
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M2 Carbine. M3 Carbine. M4 Carbine? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Why did we get the m4 after the m16? Correct. I believe the m3 carbine was a "sniper" version of the m1 carbine with an early technology night vision scope. M2 carbine was a full auto version of the m1 carbine. The m3 grease gun is a sub machine gun, not a carbine, technically speaking. |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 5:09:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: AR stands for "Assault Rifle". Many people think it stands for "Automatic Rifle" but that's only for fully automatic variations of it. The select-fire version is the "Assault Rifle" which can be full OR semi-auto. The civilian version of it is the "Assault Weapon", but that's ONLY semi-automatic. The numbers refer to the year it was designed (like the 30-06) or to the caliber in millimeters of the bullet it shoots (like the 45mm caliber). Now the AR15 is therefore a selectable-firing Assault Rifle that shoots a 223mm bullet from a 15-round clip (actually it's 14-round clip plus one in the pipe, makes for a total of 15 bullets in the chamber). The M-15 is the "Machine-gun" version of the AR-15, hence the "M" instead of the "AR" which can be confused for "Assault rifle" OR "Automatic rifle". The Military will sometimes use the M-14, but that just means you have to cock the hammer back to load the next round, so it's one less to start with than the AR-15. Guns like the M-1 Grand are bolt-action and so it only shoots one bullet at a time, hence the "1" in M-1. The bullet is much larger in the M-1 too, so that's why it's called the "Grand". If you need to learn more, do what I do and hang around the gunshows. That's where all the experts hang. You missed one point. The AR also stands for "Abrasion Repeater" for the fact that it was a repeating rifle designed to wound not kill. The 15 is the number of men it takes to carry the wounded man off the field. (Different from the M-1, Murder- 1 man removed.) |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 5:10:00 PM EDT
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How did we get from the M60 Tank to the M1? Did we run out of numbers, and have to start over again?
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Posted: 7/31/2013 5:10:42 PM EDT
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How did we get from the M60 Tank to the M1? Did we run out of numbers, and have to start over again? We didn't want to poach on the Sovet's use of high numbers for armor.
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Posted: 7/31/2013 5:11:37 PM EDT
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How did we get from the M60 Tank to the M1? Did we run out of numbers, and have to start over again? The M60 was a tank. The M1 is a Tank. |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 5:12:31 PM EDT
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Why did we get the m4 after the m16? Because of the 4 position stock that came on them
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Posted: 7/31/2013 5:14:45 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/31/2013 5:14:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: AR stands for "Assault Rifle". Many people think it stands for "Automatic Rifle" but that's only for fully automatic variations of it. The select-fire version is the "Assault Rifle" which can be full OR semi-auto. The civilian version of it is the "Assault Weapon", but that's ONLY semi-automatic. The numbers refer to the year it was designed (like the 30-06) or to the caliber in millimeters of the bullet it shoots (like the 45mm caliber). Now the AR15 is therefore a selectable-firing Assault Rifle that shoots a 223mm bullet from a 15-round clip (actually it's 14-round clip plus one in the pipe, makes for a total of 15 bullets in the chamber). The M-15 is the "Machine-gun" version of the AR-15, hence the "M" instead of the "AR" which can be confused for "Assault rifle" OR "Automatic rifle". The Military will sometimes use the M-14, but that just means you have to cock the hammer back to load the next round, so it's one less to start with than the AR-15. Guns like the M-1 Grand are bolt-action and so it only shoots one bullet at a time, hence the "1" in M-1. The bullet is much larger in the M-1 too, so that's why it's called the "Grand". If you need to learn more, do what I do and hang around the gunshows. That's where all the experts hang. You missed one point. The AR also stands for "Abrasion Repeater" for the fact that it was a repeating rifle designed to wound not kill. The 15 is the number of men it takes to carry the wounded man off the field. (Different from the M-1, Murder- 1 man removed.) Yeah, that's because the bullet tumbles in the air which not only gives it more "knock down" power, it also causes more wounding too. |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 5:16:07 PM EDT
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A lot of the commandos in Nam used the Xtreme Machinegun in 177 caliber.
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Posted: 7/31/2013 5:20:07 PM EDT
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A lot of the commandos in Nam used the Xtreme Machinegun in 177 caliber. lulz that's pretty good too |
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Posted: 7/31/2013 5:22:07 PM EDT
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AR is not "assault rifle".
It means anal rape. |
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