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Posted: 8/12/2013 6:30:43 PM EDT
Is it unrealistic to want an MRAP as a dd?
I'm watching History channel and falling in love. Can't wait til they start showing up at surplus sales in a decade or two. (I'm not former .mil so I have no real world knowledge. Just looks like a fun toy/bov) |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 6:33:17 PM EDT
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Without violating OPSEC, I will say this...
You don't want one. |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 6:33:58 PM EDT
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Real MRAPs will never show up in surplus sales. They'll go to PDs, other State agencies, foreign military sales... and crushers. But they won't be available for purchase by us peons.
A fake one was surplused out a few weeks ago out of Ohio. It was basically a mild steel MRAP body on a 939 frame. I wasn't going up to Ohio to get it so I didn't watch the auction closely, but I bet it went for a fuck ton of money. |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 6:34:43 PM EDT
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Is it unrealistic to want an MRAP as a dd?
I'm watching History channel and falling in love. Can't wait til they start showing up at surplus sales in a decade or two. (I'm not former .mil so I have no real world knowledge. Just looks like a fun toy/bov) Never going to happen. They will be pushed into the sea or abandoned and used against us and our allies in future wars. |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 6:35:10 PM EDT
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Real MRAPs will never show up in surplus sales. They'll go to PDs, other State agencies, foreign military sales... and crushers. But they won't be available for purchase by us peons. A fake one was surplused out a few weeks ago out of Ohio. It was basically a mild steel MRAP body on a 939 frame. I wasn't going up to Ohio to get it so I didn't watch the auction closely, but I bet it went for a fuck ton of money. I remember the thread on that thing. Wasn't the bidding at $40k or something right before it ended? |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 6:36:15 PM EDT
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I remember the thread on that thing. Wasn't the bidding at $40k or something right before it ended? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Real MRAPs will never show up in surplus sales. They'll go to PDs, other State agencies, foreign military sales... and crushers. But they won't be available for purchase by us peons. A fake one was surplused out a few weeks ago out of Ohio. It was basically a mild steel MRAP body on a 939 frame. I wasn't going up to Ohio to get it so I didn't watch the auction closely, but I bet it went for a fuck ton of money. I remember the thread on that thing. Wasn't the bidding at $40k or something right before it ended? Dunno. Wouldn't surprise me tho. It'd have been cheaper to get a 939 for around 5 grand and just build a new body for it. Fuck, 40 grand? Got damn. |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 6:36:31 PM EDT
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Never going to happen. They will be pushed into the sea or abandoned and used against us and our allies in future wars. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Is it unrealistic to want an MRAP as a dd?
I'm watching History channel and falling in love. Can't wait til they start showing up at surplus sales in a decade or two. (I'm not former .mil so I have no real world knowledge. Just looks like a fun toy/bov) Never going to happen. They will be pushed into the sea or abandoned and used against us and our allies in future wars. I don't doubt you at all, but that's unfortunate. Can't a kid get the cool toys every now and then? |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 6:36:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Without violating OPSEC, I will say this... You don't want one.  |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 6:38:52 PM EDT
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Just get a deuce and a half and save your pennies. All the fun of having a government surplus truck, and at a fraction of the cost and IED survivability of an MRAP.
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Posted: 8/12/2013 6:41:59 PM EDT
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Dunno. Wouldn't surprise me tho. It'd have been cheaper to get a 939 for around 5 grand and just build a new body for it. Fuck, 40 grand? Got damn. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Real MRAPs will never show up in surplus sales. They'll go to PDs, other State agencies, foreign military sales... and crushers. But they won't be available for purchase by us peons. A fake one was surplused out a few weeks ago out of Ohio. It was basically a mild steel MRAP body on a 939 frame. I wasn't going up to Ohio to get it so I didn't watch the auction closely, but I bet it went for a fuck ton of money. I remember the thread on that thing. Wasn't the bidding at $40k or something right before it ended? Dunno. Wouldn't surprise me tho. It'd have been cheaper to get a 939 for around 5 grand and just build a new body for it. Fuck, 40 grand? Got damn. Found it $66,570 
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Posted: 8/12/2013 6:42:32 PM EDT
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Just get a deuce and a half and save your pennies. All the fun of having a government surplus truck, and at a fraction of the cost and IED survivability of an MRAP. Entry price is pretty cheap too. I might wanna flee the 'burbs first, though. I'm sure the neighbors here would love it. |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 6:44:13 PM EDT
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They're really good at protecting soldiers from IEDs. They're also pretty good at fucking up soldiers in rollovers.
After driving a M1152 with a big ass box on the back in CONUS traffic, there's no way I'd want to attempt the same thing in an MRAP. |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 6:44:40 PM EDT
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Entry price is pretty cheap too. I might wanna flee the 'burbs first, though. I'm sure the neighbors here would love it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just get a deuce and a half and save your pennies. All the fun of having a government surplus truck, and at a fraction of the cost and IED survivability of an MRAP. Entry price is pretty cheap too. I might wanna flee the 'burbs first, though. I'm sure the neighbors here would love it. I currently have a M35A3 made in 93. It's a fuckton nicer to drive than the '68 M35aa2 I was using before it. Drove the A2 1200 miles back from WV. Drove the A3 800 miles back from MI. The WV trip was looooooooong and LOUD!!!! |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 6:45:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Real MRAPs will never show up in surplus sales. They'll go to PDs, other State agencies, foreign military sales... and crushers. But they won't be available for purchase by us peons. A fake one was surplused out a few weeks ago out of Ohio. It was basically a mild steel MRAP body on a 939 frame. I wasn't going up to Ohio to get it so I didn't watch the auction closely, but I bet it went for a fuck ton of money. I remember the thread on that thing. Wasn't the bidding at $40k or something right before it ended? Dunno. Wouldn't surprise me tho. It'd have been cheaper to get a 939 for around 5 grand and just build a new body for it. Fuck, 40 grand? Got damn. Found it $66,570  |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 6:46:09 PM EDT
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Entry price is pretty cheap too. I might wanna flee the 'burbs first, though. I'm sure the neighbors here would love it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just get a deuce and a half and save your pennies. All the fun of having a government surplus truck, and at a fraction of the cost and IED survivability of an MRAP. Entry price is pretty cheap too. I might wanna flee the 'burbs first, though. I'm sure the neighbors here would love it. Fuck em. Get one with a whistler turbo. The price has steadily gone up on a deuce the past few years. It's still reasonable, but I wouldn't wait too much longer. |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 6:46:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryYou don't want one. If you knew how many stuck MRAPs we flew overwatch for...
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Posted: 8/12/2013 6:46:38 PM EDT
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How could you possibly afford to feed such a beast?
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Posted: 8/12/2013 6:47:24 PM EDT
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The second one a few weeks later went for like 99k. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Real MRAPs will never show up in surplus sales. They'll go to PDs, other State agencies, foreign military sales... and crushers. But they won't be available for purchase by us peons. A fake one was surplused out a few weeks ago out of Ohio. It was basically a mild steel MRAP body on a 939 frame. I wasn't going up to Ohio to get it so I didn't watch the auction closely, but I bet it went for a fuck ton of money. I remember the thread on that thing. Wasn't the bidding at $40k or something right before it ended? Dunno. Wouldn't surprise me tho. It'd have been cheaper to get a 939 for around 5 grand and just build a new body for it. Fuck, 40 grand? Got damn. Found it $66,570
For that kind of money, you could import a Chieftain. Jeeeeesus. |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 6:48:15 PM EDT
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Fuck em. Get one with a whistler turbo. The price has steadily gone up on a deuce the past few years. It's still reasonable, but I wouldn't wait too much longer. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just get a deuce and a half and save your pennies. All the fun of having a government surplus truck, and at a fraction of the cost and IED survivability of an MRAP. Entry price is pretty cheap too. I might wanna flee the 'burbs first, though. I'm sure the neighbors here would love it. Fuck em. Get one with a whistler turbo. The price has steadily gone up on a deuce the past few years. It's still reasonable, but I wouldn't wait too much longer. How are the 5Ts compared to the deuces? I'd like to trade mine for a 5T but haven't done the research yet. |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 6:51:05 PM EDT
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Those SOCOM MATVs aren't to shabby. The end users seem to be decently pleased with them, for what they were.
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Posted: 8/12/2013 6:52:23 PM EDT
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How are the 5Ts compared to the deuces? I'd like to trade mine for a 5T but haven't done the research yet. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just get a deuce and a half and save your pennies. All the fun of having a government surplus truck, and at a fraction of the cost and IED survivability of an MRAP. Entry price is pretty cheap too. I might wanna flee the 'burbs first, though. I'm sure the neighbors here would love it. Fuck em. Get one with a whistler turbo. The price has steadily gone up on a deuce the past few years. It's still reasonable, but I wouldn't wait too much longer. How are the 5Ts compared to the deuces? I'd like to trade mine for a 5T but haven't done the research yet. I got a 923a0. Like night and day compared to an M35A2 as far as comfort in driving. The power steering is literally 2 finger steering at a dead stop. These days, I'd get the 5 ton. If getting from auction. Most of the deuces getting auctioned off now are pretty rough. Prices vary greatly between 939s, 939a1s, and 939a2s. Just depends on if you care about slightly bigger super singles, CTIS, and the 6CTA 8.3 vs the older NHC 250. I went for a regular 939a0 because it was cheaper. But the 6CTA is supposed to be alot more fuel efficient. If you can swap a good condition deuce for a good condition 5 ton, I'd consider it a fair trade, personally. |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 6:53:01 PM EDT
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Without violating OPSEC, I will say this... You don't want one. Caimans were the Cadillac MRAP, and even they sucked. A cheap Duece and a half or 5 ton I can see, but if you want the MRAP experience, get a CDL, and drive a loaded 20 ton dump truck while sitting on a board. Tape cardboard over the top and bottom six inches of each window too. Wear PPE, drive in the heat with just enough AC to smell the cool. Drive around sharing the road with a bunch of idiots for six hours and wait for something stupid to happen while your toes and fingers tingle with anticipation. ETA: 
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Posted: 8/12/2013 6:56:19 PM EDT
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Those SOCOM MATVs aren't to shabby. The end users seem to be decently pleased with them, for what they were. More fun than an MRAP but they get stuck in the sand easily.
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Posted: 8/12/2013 7:00:33 PM EDT
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Without violating OPSEC, I will say this... You don't want one. +1, first post and all... |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 7:02:13 PM EDT
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Quoted: Is it unrealistic to want an MRAP as a dd? Fuck yeah. I'd rather have a UPS van for a daily driver. |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 7:11:12 PM EDT
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Having driven one and manning an open turret, I say no. Its kind of an up armored school bus.
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Posted: 8/12/2013 7:11:52 PM EDT
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Considering that Government Liquidation just held an auction for roughly 400 HMMWVs that were required to be completely destroyed, your chances of getting an MRAP are somewhere between slim and none.
They will go to FEMA, DHS, Border Patrol, and Foreign Military Sales. The American citizen will never own one, because your masters know what's best for you. I feel real lucky to have gotten my Deuce and a Half. LC |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 7:15:43 PM EDT
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I got a 923a0. Like night and day compared to an M35A2 as far as comfort in driving. The power steering is literally 2 finger steering at a dead stop. These days, I'd get the 5 ton. If getting from auction. Most of the deuces getting auctioned off now are pretty rough. Prices vary greatly between 939s, 939a1s, and 939a2s. Just depends on if you care about slightly bigger super singles, CTIS, and the 6CTA 8.3 vs the older NHC 250. I went for a regular 939a0 because it was cheaper. But the 6CTA is supposed to be alot more fuel efficient. If you can swap a good condition deuce for a good condition 5 ton, I'd consider it a fair trade, personally. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just get a deuce and a half and save your pennies. All the fun of having a government surplus truck, and at a fraction of the cost and IED survivability of an MRAP. Entry price is pretty cheap too. I might wanna flee the 'burbs first, though. I'm sure the neighbors here would love it. Fuck em. Get one with a whistler turbo. The price has steadily gone up on a deuce the past few years. It's still reasonable, but I wouldn't wait too much longer. How are the 5Ts compared to the deuces? I'd like to trade mine for a 5T but haven't done the research yet. I got a 923a0. Like night and day compared to an M35A2 as far as comfort in driving. The power steering is literally 2 finger steering at a dead stop. These days, I'd get the 5 ton. If getting from auction. Most of the deuces getting auctioned off now are pretty rough. Prices vary greatly between 939s, 939a1s, and 939a2s. Just depends on if you care about slightly bigger super singles, CTIS, and the 6CTA 8.3 vs the older NHC 250. I went for a regular 939a0 because it was cheaper. But the 6CTA is supposed to be alot more fuel efficient. If you can swap a good condition deuce for a good condition 5 ton, I'd consider it a fair trade, personally. Mine's in pretty good shape with the only rust being on the fenders where they all rust if they've been in the north. 
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Posted: 8/12/2013 7:15:48 PM EDT
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Well shit- a kid can dream. Back to looking at the 2.5/5t trucks.
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Posted: 8/12/2013 7:25:06 PM EDT
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Caimans were the Cadillac MRAP, and even they sucked. A cheap Duece and a half or 5 ton I can see, but if you want the MRAP experience, get a CDL, and drive a loaded 20 ton dump truck while sitting on a board. Tape cardboard over the top and bottom six inches of each window too. Wear PPE, drive in the heat with just enough AC to smell the cool. Drive around sharing the road with a bunch of idiots for six hours and wait for something stupid to happen while your toes and fingers tingle with anticipation. ETA: Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Without violating OPSEC, I will say this... You don't want one. Caimans were the Cadillac MRAP, and even they sucked. A cheap Duece and a half or 5 ton I can see, but if you want the MRAP experience, get a CDL, and drive a loaded 20 ton dump truck while sitting on a board. Tape cardboard over the top and bottom six inches of each window too. Wear PPE, drive in the heat with just enough AC to smell the cool. Drive around sharing the road with a bunch of idiots for six hours and wait for something stupid to happen while your toes and fingers tingle with anticipation. ETA: Caiman's are turds built on an FMTV chassis. The SOCOM variants are all pretty decent. My favorite is the MATV or the RG33-AUV. Still a pain in the ass to drive, but these things can pull some shit: 
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Posted: 8/12/2013 7:28:56 PM EDT
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Think smaller and newer, how bout some XM1117s?
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Posted: 8/12/2013 7:30:24 PM EDT
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I'll take an MTVR.
Those things rock on or off road. Add a conex converted to a camper.  |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 7:30:44 PM EDT
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Ya. There great. If you hit the breaks to much you can't open the doors. Not bad survivability but some serious design flaws.
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Posted: 8/12/2013 7:33:38 PM EDT
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Ya. There great. If you hit the breaks to much you can't open the doors. Not bad survivability but some serious design flaws. You know that there is a spelling error in your avatar.........right? 
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Posted: 8/12/2013 7:37:52 PM EDT
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You know that there is a spelling error in your avatar.........right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ya. There great. If you hit the breaks to much you can't open the doors. Not bad survivability but some serious design flaws. You know that there is a spelling error in your avatar.........right? Still funny
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Posted: 8/12/2013 7:42:04 PM EDT
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Ya. There great. If you hit the breaks to much you can't open the doors. Not bad survivability but some serious design flaws. You know that there is a spelling error in your avatar.........right? Still funny I agree. Probably funnier since it is misspelled.
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Posted: 8/12/2013 7:47:26 PM EDT
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My back is still kinda fucked up from the two MRAP rollovers I was in. You dont want one, trust me.
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Posted: 8/12/2013 7:47:44 PM EDT
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There was a retrofitted blast resistant troop transport on http://www.govliquidation.com/. IIRC starting bid was 45k.
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Posted: 8/12/2013 7:56:04 PM EDT
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Real MRAPs will never show up in surplus sales. They'll go to FEMA. But they won't be available for purchase by us peons. A fake one was surplused out a few weeks ago out of Ohio. It was basically a mild steel MRAP body on a 939 frame. I wasn't going up to Ohio to get it so I didn't watch the auction closely, but I bet it went for a fuck ton of money. FIFY |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 7:57:52 PM EDT
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Has anyone mentioned getting a BRDM-2? At least the BRDM is amphibious....
http://sovietarmor.com/catalog/armored/brdm_2.html Edit for link |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 8:02:34 PM EDT
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If you got the cash, go for a Maraduer out of south Africa. Top gear did a show on it, drove through walls and they set off c4 under it. Blew a tire from the blast but everything else was fine... Started it up and drove off. They are north of 400k I believe and then there IA the whole problem if importing and licensing it here in the states.
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Posted: 8/12/2013 8:15:40 PM EDT
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The government would rather pay some one to get rid of them than sell them to the people. I would not want one, but I will take a HUMVEE. I have friends the work on those things they said changing the oil requires that you nearly tear the entire engine out.
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Posted: 8/12/2013 8:22:42 PM EDT
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MRAPs get a lot of hate, but I've done things in them that I never thought would be possible in a truck that weighs that much. 99% of the issues come from the driver from what I've seen.
A MATV would be a hell of a lot of fun with some/most of the armor removed. |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 9:12:30 PM EDT
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If you got the cash, go for a Maraduer out of south Africa. Top gear did a show on it, drove through walls and they set off c4 under it. Blew a tire from the blast but everything else was fine... Started it up and drove off. They are north of 400k I believe and then there IA the whole problem if importing and licensing it here in the states. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile 
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Posted: 8/12/2013 9:21:19 PM EDT
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Since we all had to get licensed before my last deployment, I was theoretically qualified to drive a MATV when we were critically undermanned for a mission. So here I am driving a MATV for the first time (license was pencil whipped by BN CDR\Team leader) down crowded urban streets and I can't see a god damn thing. The BN CDR is my TC and I'm like, "Jesus Christ sir, there's kids and goats everywhere. What if I hit one?" And he goes, "This thing weighs 20 tons, we probably won't even feel it!"
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Posted: 8/12/2013 9:24:34 PM EDT
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The BAE Alligator looks pretty pimp as well...
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Posted: 8/12/2013 9:46:31 PM EDT
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I'm holding out for one of the SOF-D Pinzgauers that recently came in...being refurbed now, probably a couple years before they're on the market. I shall enlarge the piggy bank.
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Posted: 8/12/2013 10:12:13 PM EDT
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If you don't have an MRAP on the first day of the second American revolution, you'll have one on the second.
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Posted: 8/12/2013 10:16:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: If you don't have an MRAP on the first day of the second American revolution, you'll have one on the second. Yeah, it'll be parked on your chest. |
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Posted: 8/12/2013 10:36:54 PM EDT
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MRAPs are good for what they are intended for, which is most certainly not what civilians would want them for.
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Posted: 8/12/2013 10:40:37 PM EDT
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If you don't have an MRAP on the first day of the second American revolution, you'll have one on the second. Quote HistoryQuoted:
If you don't have an MRAP on the first day of the second American revolution, you'll have one on the second. 99% of the MRAPs aren't in America. Quoted:
My back is still kinda fucked up from the two MRAP rollovers I was in. You dont want one, trust me. I bet it's the driver of those vehicles they don't want, not the trucks themselves. |
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