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Posted: 12/18/2013 12:07:22 PM EDT
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Posted: 12/18/2013 12:08:09 PM EDT
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Should of started in December 1965, IMHO.
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Posted: 12/18/2013 12:11:19 PM EDT
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Should of started in December 1965, IMHO. very true |
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Posted: 12/18/2013 12:12:13 PM EDT
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We should have replayed that over Afghanistan from 2001-2003.
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Posted: 12/18/2013 12:19:12 PM EDT
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Took us far too long to send this message:
"YOU ARE DIRECTED TO COMMENENCE AT APPROXIMATELY 1300Z ON 18 DEC 1972 A THREE DAY MAXIMUM EFFORT // REPEAT MAXIMUM EFFORT // OF B52 // TACAIR STRIKES IN THE HANOI // HIAPHONG AREAS AGAINST TARGETS CONTAINED IN THE AUTHORIZE TARGET LIST..... BE PREPARED TO EXTEND OPERATIONS PAST THREE DAYS IF DIRECTED. THE FOLLOWING INSTRUCTIONS APPLY: A. UTILIZE VISUAL AS WELL AS ALL WEATHER CAPABILITIES. B. UTILIZE ALL RESOURCES WHICH CAN BE SPARED WITHOUT CRITICAL DETRIMENT TO OPERATIONS IN RUN AND SUPPORT OF EMERGENCY SITUATIONS IN CAMBODIA. C. UTILIZE RESTRIKES ON AUTHORIZED TARGETS, AS NECESSARY. NORTH VIETNAMESE AIR ORDER OF BATTLE, AIRFIELDS, AND ACTICE SURFACE-TO-AIR MISSILE SITES MAY BE STRUCT AS TACTICAL SITUATION DICTATES TO IMPROVE EFFECTIVENESS OF ATTACK FORCES AND MINIMIZE LOSSES. D. EXCERISE PRECAUTION TO MINIMIZE RISK TO CIVILIAN CASUALTIES UTILIZING LGB [LASER GUIDED BOMB] WEAPONS AGAINST DESIGNATED TARGETS. AVOID DAMAGE TO THIRD COUNTRY SHIPPING" |
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Posted: 12/18/2013 12:20:08 PM EDT
[#5]
Fuck 'em up!
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Posted: 12/18/2013 12:30:50 PM EDT
[#6]
Luv me some Buffs!
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Posted: 12/18/2013 12:31:08 PM EDT
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Had we simply kept up the B-52 strikes we would have ended the war in a few years. There was nothing the NVA feared more than the B52
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Posted: 12/18/2013 12:33:47 PM EDT
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Non SAC USAF A/C in theater
Aircraft Quantity F-111 48 F-4 99 RF-4 18 F-4C 6 F-4E 24 F-105G 23 EB-66 17 A-7D 72 HC-130 EC-121 F-4D 111 F-4 27 HH-53 SAC A/C in theater Aircraft Quantity B-52D 54 KC-135A 53 (Appox) 10 B-52D 53 B-52G 99 KC-135A 59* (Appox) KC-135A 7 KC-135Q 5/6/12** Giant Bear TTF (SR-71)6 RC-135M KC-135A 25 SR-71A 4 U-2 / DC-130 2 / 2 Results - 729 B-52 strikes dropped over 15K tons of ordnance, destroying 32 military/industrial targets. Non bomber a/c dropped another 5k tons of bombs. 15 B-52 lost, 2 F-111s, 3 F-4s, 2 A-7s, 2 A-6s, 1 EB-66, 1 RA-5C, 1 HH-53. Eight MiGs shot down, two claimed by B-52 tailgunners. Damage to N. Vietnam: Over 500 rail interdictions, 372 pieces of rolling stock and 3 million gallons of petrol destroyed. 80% of N. Vietnam electrical generation out. Logistical imports down to 30k tons a month from ~160k tons prior to the strikes. |
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Posted: 12/18/2013 1:01:01 PM EDT
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I would never want to fly one, especially in an area where the SAM threat hadn't been fully suppressed.
BUT Strategic bombers are the tits... |
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Posted: 12/18/2013 1:11:36 PM EDT
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You can criticize Nixon for a lot of things but at least he made sure we took off the gloves once before we left Vietnam.
If LBJ had done the same in 66 or 67, it may have had a whole different outcome. |
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Posted: 12/18/2013 1:13:24 PM EDT
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I would never want to fly one, especially in an area where the SAM threat hadn't been fully suppressed. BUT Strategic bombers are the tits... IIRC the Big Belly B52s were taken out of service years ago to comply with some Arms Control Treaty. |
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Posted: 12/18/2013 1:24:28 PM EDT
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IIRC the Big Belly B52s were taken out of service years ago to comply with some Arms Control Treaty. The Big Belly mods to the -D model effectively made these planes conventional bomb only. Most of the equipment needed to carry and drop nuclear weapons was removed, freeing up space in the bomb bay. The B-52D served until the late 70's then was scrapped mainly due to their conventional only role. |
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Posted: 12/18/2013 3:23:51 PM EDT
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We should have replayed that over Afghanistan from 2001-2003. Agreed. The last time we did massive carpet bombing was Gulf War I, near troops in the desert, but not on top of them. |
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Posted: 12/18/2013 3:34:28 PM EDT
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Those aerial photos of Andersen AFB, Guam are impressive. I was stationed there in the late 80's with a single bomb wing, I could only imagine having that huge ramp full of aircraft.
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Posted: 12/18/2013 3:39:46 PM EDT
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"Into the stone age son"
Only problem was they were only one generation away and there wasn't much to actually bomb 
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Posted: 12/18/2013 3:41:14 PM EDT
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New Linebacker!
I wonder what the afgans and iraqis would think if we carpet bombed like this. Might have ended the war quicker. Quote HistoryQuoted:
We should have replayed that over Afghanistan from 2001-2003. |
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Posted: 12/18/2013 3:41:34 PM EDT
[#17]
Yet Hanoi Jane lives....
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Posted: 12/18/2013 3:42:11 PM EDT
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Really nice pictures OP, I was in Vietnam at the time flying daily hunter-killer missions along the Ho Chi Minh Trail at the entry points around the tri-border. Once Linebacker II started we saw a marked decrease in the amount of men & materials coming down the trail.
President Nixon was smart to order it and it should have been done much sooner. It got the North Vietnamese to finally negotiate in earnest and the the Paris Peace Accord ending hostilities in Vietnam was signed just a little over a month later. |
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Posted: 12/18/2013 3:53:41 PM EDT
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The VCs were 30 days away from surrendering if the bombing was kept up. 30 fucking days and history would have been different. Fuck Jane Fonda!
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Posted: 12/18/2013 4:02:10 PM EDT
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Love BUFF!
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Posted: 12/18/2013 4:35:43 PM EDT
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Yet Hanoi Jane lives.... When winning hearts and minds goes in the wrong direction.
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Posted: 12/19/2013 3:57:36 AM EDT
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The VCs were 30 days away from surrendering if the bombing was kept up. 30 fucking days and history would have been different. Fuck Jane Fonda! The VC were destroyed in Tet but I heard that the NVA was practically out of action from all the damage the LB raids did. No trucks, no ports, no gas, no electricity. They were dead in the water. Unfortunately by that time the anti-war movement in the US had emboldened them to hold out. |
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Posted: 12/19/2013 4:03:17 AM EDT
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Too bad we didnt add a few daisy cutters in there somewhere............specifically where Jane Fonda was taking pictures
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Posted: 12/19/2013 8:09:50 AM EDT
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The VC were destroyed in Tet but I heard that the NVA was practically out of action from all the damage the LB raids did. No trucks, no ports, no gas, no electricity. They were dead in the water. Unfortunately by that time the anti-war movement in the US had emboldened them to hold out. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The VCs were 30 days away from surrendering if the bombing was kept up. 30 fucking days and history would have been different. Fuck Jane Fonda! The VC were destroyed in Tet but I heard that the NVA was practically out of action from all the damage the LB raids did. No trucks, no ports, no gas, no electricity. They were dead in the water. Unfortunately by that time the anti-war movement in the US had emboldened them to hold out. 40 years later and people still don't get the difference between VC and NVA. 
Nevermind the difference types of VC. |
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Posted: 12/19/2013 9:06:39 AM EDT
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40 years later and people still don't get the difference between VC and NVA.
Nevermind the difference types of VC. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The VCs were 30 days away from surrendering if the bombing was kept up. 30 fucking days and history would have been different. Fuck Jane Fonda! The VC were destroyed in Tet but I heard that the NVA was practically out of action from all the damage the LB raids did. No trucks, no ports, no gas, no electricity. They were dead in the water. Unfortunately by that time the anti-war movement in the US had emboldened them to hold out. 40 years later and people still don't get the difference between VC and NVA.
Nevermind the difference types of VC. So true, after '68 the indigenous "freedom fighters" from the South fighting to overthrow the democratic government were pretty much all eliminated for the great part. We're there a few little units of VC still around and fighting, yes, but they weren't the ones doing the majority of the fighting. After '68 the North Vietnamese Army, organized and in uniform were the soldiers doing the fighting. I never saw any fighters in black pajamas and coned straw hats the whole time I was there and I went out to meet with the almost every day. |
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Posted: 12/19/2013 9:42:00 AM EDT
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Keep thinking about Kissinger talking to the North Vietnamese and going you better deal with me because there is no telling what that crazy bastard Nixon is going to do if things don't go right here at the table.
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Posted: 12/19/2013 10:17:09 AM EDT
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The Big Belly mods to the -D model effectively made these planes conventional bomb only. Most of the equipment needed to carry and drop nuclear weapons was removed, freeing up space in the bomb bay. The B-52D served until the late 70's then was scrapped mainly due to their conventional only role. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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IIRC the Big Belly B52s were taken out of service years ago to comply with some Arms Control Treaty. The Big Belly mods to the -D model effectively made these planes conventional bomb only. Most of the equipment needed to carry and drop nuclear weapons was removed, freeing up space in the bomb bay. The B-52D served until the late 70's then was scrapped mainly due to their conventional only role. When I got to Dyess AFB April '82, They still had D Model BUFFs sitting on the Alert Pad loaded with nukes. They headed to the boneyard a few months later to make room for the H models that Beamy now Crews. Anybody Who was lucky enough to observe a scramble & elephant walk with 5 KC-135A & 5 B-52D's with all 60 J-57's all turning & burning will NEVER forget it! 
The Ol' Crew Chief |
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Posted: 12/19/2013 11:03:35 AM EDT
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Merry Fucking Christmas, Ho Ho Ho Chi Minh.
Definitely should have started those strikes sooner. |
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