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Wild west guns?
I remember the thread and saved the pic but don't remember now |
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Ok I found it. Its a Winchester model 71 Alaskan. That picture has been in my phone for a year.
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I remember it being a customized Winchester,,,50 something, but not .500S&W.
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A pump action 500 S&W with a 16" barrel would be the Cat's Meow.
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I thought it was .50 Alaskan or something like that? Same here. Could be. http://www.alaskasgreatoutdoors.com/Alaska%20photos/PowerChart.gif |
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Converted Marlin 336. Take a look a JES re-boring for what calibers he does.
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Huh, that's odd. My wallet just started crying and ran under the couch. WTF?
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You can get a Browning 71, and have it rebored for about $1200. I'm on the lookout for one right now, but I'll probably make it a 50-110. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Huh, that's odd. My wallet just started crying and ran under the couch. WTF? You can get a Browning 71, and have it rebored for about $1200. I'm on the lookout for one right now, but I'll probably make it a 50-110. Worth the price in my book but I'm pretty sure the dying transmission in my car would object. |
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Worth the price in my book but I'm pretty sure the dying transmission in my car would object. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Huh, that's odd. My wallet just started crying and ran under the couch. WTF? You can get a Browning 71, and have it rebored for about $1200. I'm on the lookout for one right now, but I'll probably make it a 50-110. Worth the price in my book but I'm pretty sure the dying transmission in my car would object. I know. My Duramax is screaming for attention. |
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I remember that gun in the lever action thread.
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_47/284846_Post_your_lever_action_pr0n_here___.html I didn't know it had been sold |
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I thought it was .50 Alaskan or something like that? Same here. Could be. http://www.alaskasgreatoutdoors.com/Alaska%20photos/PowerChart.gif Hrmmm..... .45/70 out of my modern Marlin 1895 are moving substantially faster than that chart. Chart 45/70 is a BP/trapdoor load. Bias. |
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Hrmmm..... .45/70 out of my modern Marlin 1895 are moving substantially faster than that chart. Chart 45/70 is a BP/trapdoor load. Bias. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I thought it was .50 Alaskan or something like that? Same here. Could be. http://www.alaskasgreatoutdoors.com/Alaska%20photos/PowerChart.gif Hrmmm..... .45/70 out of my modern Marlin 1895 are moving substantially faster than that chart. Chart 45/70 is a BP/trapdoor load. Bias. Agreed. And if you go to a ruger no. 1, you can get almost identical numbers for the 50 Alaskan. |
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Agreed. And if you go to a ruger no. 1, you can get almost identical numbers for the 50 Alaskan. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I thought it was .50 Alaskan or something like that? Same here. Could be. http://www.alaskasgreatoutdoors.com/Alaska%20photos/PowerChart.gif Hrmmm..... .45/70 out of my modern Marlin 1895 are moving substantially faster than that chart. Chart 45/70 is a BP/trapdoor load. Bias. Agreed. And if you go to a ruger no. 1, you can get almost identical numbers for the 50 Alaskan. can you get 500 gr. loads? |
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I wouldnt call it redneck. it had some of the nicest fabrication work I have ever seen. That forecap with heavy winged sights was sweet. Also the lever was butter smooth, the smith did excellent work. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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That is Red Neck...I dub it the "LEVINATOR" I like it I wouldnt call it redneck. it had some of the nicest fabrication work I have ever seen. That forecap with heavy winged sights was sweet. Also the lever was butter smooth, the smith did excellent work. You misunderstand my point even though I said I liked it. I was speaking to the concept of the rifle not the quality of the work. |
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50 Alaskan was a cartridge developed by Wild West Guns out of Anchorage Alaska. They typically offer it in their guide guns built on the Marlin 1895 platform along with their 457 magnum cartridge. I used to work their and build guide rifles for them. State troopers had 3 .50 Alaskans built as anti vehicle guns for their swat team for engine blocks back in 2001.
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50 Alaskan was a cartridge developed by Wild West Guns out of Anchorage Alaska. They typically offer it in their guide guns built on the Marlin 1895 platform along with their 457 magnum cartridge. I used to work their and build guide rifles for them. State troopers had 3 .50 Alaskans built as anti vehicle guns for their swat team for engine blocks back in 2001. View Quote Heh, small world. I got a call from him about working for him about 4 years ago. I wonder what I missed out on sometimes. Kinda think it'd be cool to be on TV. |
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That thing is gorgeous!!
Another one goes on the list. I am running out of kidneys! |
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Yes, yes it would. But you are making to much sense here for a gun company. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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A pump action 500 S&W with a 16" barrel would be the Cat's Meow. Yes, yes it would. But you are making to much sense here for a gun company. Nice aperture sight and it would make a great brush gun for deer in areas where rifle calibers are prohibited. Would have a nice low profile self-defense application as well. |
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Hrmmm..... .45/70 out of my modern Marlin 1895 are moving substantially faster than that chart. Chart 45/70 is a BP/trapdoor load. Bias. Agreed. And if you go to a ruger no. 1, you can get almost identical numbers for the 50 Alaskan. can you get 500 gr. loads? Out of my 1895?... never tried as it is a laser with 405gr loads (both cast and jacketed), but I would wager if one could, speeds would be low. I can push 500gr loads at good speed out of my Bakail double rifle or Ruger No1 as mentioned though. |
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Heh, small world. I got a call from him about working for him about 4 years ago. I wonder what I missed out on sometimes. Kinda think it'd be cool to be on TV. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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50 Alaskan was a cartridge developed by Wild West Guns out of Anchorage Alaska. They typically offer it in their guide guns built on the Marlin 1895 platform along with their 457 magnum cartridge. I used to work their and build guide rifles for them. State troopers had 3 .50 Alaskans built as anti vehicle guns for their swat team for engine blocks back in 2001. Heh, small world. I got a call from him about working for him about 4 years ago. I wonder what I missed out on sometimes. Kinda think it'd be cool to be on TV. You didn't miss out on anything. Jim and Ken are very difficult to work for to say the least, completely different people for TV that's for damn sure!!!! They used to have some incredibly talented gunsmith's working there |
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I would love a lever gun in .460 S&W Mag that could also shoot .454 Casull and .45 Colt. 3" .410 would be a bonus.
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Hrmmm..... .45/70 out of my modern Marlin 1895 are moving substantially faster than that chart. Chart 45/70 is a BP/trapdoor load. Yeh i was thinkin the same thing. I push a 425gr hard cast out at about 1800 fps and it will go thru damn near anything. Same recipe I used killed two Cape Buffaloa with one shot in Africa......yeh thats where they keep the CB. ...HAHA Bias. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I thought it was .50 Alaskan or something like that? Same here. Could be. http://www.alaskasgreatoutdoors.com/Alaska%20photos/PowerChart.gif Hrmmm..... .45/70 out of my modern Marlin 1895 are moving substantially faster than that chart. Chart 45/70 is a BP/trapdoor load. Yeh i was thinkin the same thing. I push a 425gr hard cast out at about 1800 fps and it will go thru damn near anything. Same recipe I used killed two Cape Buffaloa with one shot in Africa......yeh thats where they keep the CB. ...HAHA Bias. |
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You didn't miss out on anything. Jim and Ken are very difficult to work for to say the least, completely different people for TV that's for damn sure!!!! They used to have some incredibly talented gunsmith's working there View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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50 Alaskan was a cartridge developed by Wild West Guns out of Anchorage Alaska. They typically offer it in their guide guns built on the Marlin 1895 platform along with their 457 magnum cartridge. I used to work their and build guide rifles for them. State troopers had 3 .50 Alaskans built as anti vehicle guns for their swat team for engine blocks back in 2001. Heh, small world. I got a call from him about working for him about 4 years ago. I wonder what I missed out on sometimes. Kinda think it'd be cool to be on TV. You didn't miss out on anything. Jim and Ken are very difficult to work for to say the least, completely different people for TV that's for damn sure!!!! They used to have some incredibly talented gunsmith's working there just fyi 50 alaskan was developed by harold johnson of coopers landing in the 1950s by cutting down a .50 bmg round. |
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just fyi 50 alaskan was developed by harold johnson of coopers landing in the 1950s by cutting down a .50 bmg round. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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50 Alaskan was a cartridge developed by Wild West Guns out of Anchorage Alaska. They typically offer it in their guide guns built on the Marlin 1895 platform along with their 457 magnum cartridge. I used to work their and build guide rifles for them. State troopers had 3 .50 Alaskans built as anti vehicle guns for their swat team for engine blocks back in 2001. Heh, small world. I got a call from him about working for him about 4 years ago. I wonder what I missed out on sometimes. Kinda think it'd be cool to be on TV. You didn't miss out on anything. Jim and Ken are very difficult to work for to say the least, completely different people for TV that's for damn sure!!!! They used to have some incredibly talented gunsmith's working there just fyi 50 alaskan was developed by harold johnson of coopers landing in the 1950s by cutting down a .50 bmg round. This is correct, the initial guns used 50 calibre machine gun barrels which were the correct .510 bore and BTW Wild West Guns claim a lot of things. |
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Yep that sounds about typical WWG type crap, i never did look into the claims but good info to know. Thank you
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I came up with some actual data (chronographed) for the 50 Alaskan if anyone is interested, the gun used is a 22" gun using a 525 cast bullet the data suggests this should run 1850-1860 fps loaded, 3 grains under maximun it is chornographed at 1810 fps which is plenty
as recoil is somewhat heavy. This gun shoots under an inch at 100 yards when scoped and generally wears iron sights as it is a Bear gun. I am going to shoot this gun a week from tomorrow and will let you know just how bad it really is. |
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tagged for outcome...looks like "retinal detachment" recoil to me.
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