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Posted: 3/12/2014 7:57:21 AM EST
It seems like you hardly ever hear anything about these, which is probably a good thing for a combat-type vehicle.
Does anyone have any experience with these? It seems like they'd be handy as hell... what the up-armored HMMWV is supposed to be, but smaller and easier to get places than a Stryker. |
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Posted: 3/12/2014 8:02:01 AM EST
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I want one.
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Posted: 3/12/2014 8:05:50 AM EST
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I always thought they were pretty cool but people here who have crewed them said they sort of suck. Cramped, tiny turret, hard to get into/out of in a hurry (or with gear on at all), and the usual noisy and hot.
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Posted: 3/12/2014 8:06:32 AM EST
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Not a fan, just because they required more assets to recover and did not add additional firepower over a gun truck. The armor was a wash as the biggest threat was efp's Note we were running 1151's otherwise.
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Posted: 3/12/2014 8:07:08 AM EST
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Gigantic piece of shit.
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Posted: 3/12/2014 8:10:04 AM EST
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Love the turret..same thing as on the AAVs.
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Posted: 3/12/2014 8:10:45 AM EST
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There was a thread about them a few days ago: users weren't fond of them.
I remember Iraq circa 2004 there was one with an all female crew...much ado was made over that. |
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Posted: 3/12/2014 8:12:49 AM EST
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I loved them, but they should have been upgraded with new suspension, and the turret removed and replaced with a CROWS II, so essentially, the Canaidan TAPV. The turret is awful, using old a Bradley optics might ave saved costs but the lack of thermal and the horrible turret controls made quickly engaging targets quite difficult.
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Posted: 3/12/2014 8:26:05 AM EST
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There is a couple cherry ones forsale here for $60,000 each. I'd love to buy one!!!
http://www.armyjeeps.net/V-100-0118X/V100.htm |
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Posted: 3/12/2014 8:39:22 AM EST
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There is a couple cherry ones forsale here for $60,000 each. I'd love to buy one!!! http://www.armyjeeps.net/V-100-0118X/V100.htm It just wouldn't be as fun without a Mk19 and M2 in the turret. 
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Posted: 3/12/2014 8:43:21 AM EST
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So it seems like the most prevalent complaints involve the turret. How's the protection compared to something like a Stryker or Bradley?
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Posted: 3/12/2014 8:45:13 AM EST
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Mobile One!
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Posted: 3/12/2014 8:50:13 AM EST
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There is a couple cherry ones forsale here for $60,000 each. I'd love to buy one!!! http://www.armyjeeps.net/V-100-0118X/V100.htm Those are not M1117 ASVs. |
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Posted: 3/12/2014 8:51:21 AM EST
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So it seems like the most prevalent complaints involve the turret. How's the protection compared to something like a Stryker or Bradley? Not a fair comparison as they are not in the same class of vehicles. The ASV was designed to provide the Military Police Corps with a useful convoy security vehicle, it does that, it's not an APC or an IFV. |
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Posted: 3/12/2014 8:53:57 AM EST
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The only people I ever saw driving them were fisters or some other sort of FA/FO capacity. They look pretty fun to drive, but I wouldn't want to have to PMCS it each week.
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Posted: 3/12/2014 8:57:01 AM EST
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The only people I ever saw driving them were fisters or some other sort of FA/FO capacity. They look pretty fun to drive, but I wouldn't want to have to PMCS it each week. You likely did not see an ASV then, but more likely the M1200 Armored Knight FO vehicle. 
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Posted: 3/12/2014 8:59:04 AM EST
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didn't we just do this thread?
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Posted: 3/12/2014 9:00:26 AM EST
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didn't we just do this thread? What thread haven't we done a thousand times? |
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Posted: 3/12/2014 9:02:15 AM EST
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ASVs are uncomfortable as fuck to sit in for 14 hours, I'll say that
oh and we had two of them catch on fire because of something to do with the brakes, and also had an engine flame out which was kind of funny becuase the truck behind it thought it got blown up. |
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Posted: 3/12/2014 9:04:42 AM EST
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You likely did not see an ASV then, but more likely the M1200 Armored Knight FO vehicle. http://media.defenceindustrydaily.com/images/LAND_M1200_Armored_Knight_Ramp_lg.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The only people I ever saw driving them were fisters or some other sort of FA/FO capacity. They look pretty fun to drive, but I wouldn't want to have to PMCS it each week. You likely did not see an ASV then, but more likely the M1200 Armored Knight FO vehicle. http://media.defenceindustrydaily.com/images/LAND_M1200_Armored_Knight_Ramp_lg.jpg Now you've done it. Everyone in GD will want one now. |
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Posted: 3/12/2014 9:04:52 AM EST
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ASV evolved, this is what it should be. The Canadian TAPV. More armor, better suspension and mobility, and a CROWS with an AGL and a coaxial FN MAG.
Tactical Armoured Patrol Vehicle / Le véhicule de patrouille blindé tactique by Canadian Army | Armée canadienne, on Flickr 
Tactical Armoured Patrol Vehicle / Le véhicule de patrouille blindé tactique by Canadian Army | Armée canadienne, on Flickr |
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Posted: 3/12/2014 9:07:52 AM EST
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didn't we just do this thread? Kinda sorta. That one started out as a WTF is this thing? |
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Posted: 3/12/2014 9:07:55 AM EST
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There is a couple cherry ones forsale here for $60,000 each. I'd love to buy one!!! http://www.armyjeeps.net/V-100-0118X/V100.htm Those are not M1117 ASVs. But, when I win the lottery, they'll both be mine! |
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Posted: 3/12/2014 9:08:47 AM EST
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didn't we just do this thread? Kinda sorta. That one started out as a WTF is this thing? Did anyone mention that's not actually an M1117 ASV either? |
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Posted: 3/12/2014 9:11:19 AM EST
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I gunned in one for several months.
I loved it, but I am a small guy who fit well in the turret. Hell of a lot more comfortable than the webbing strap of a seat for a HMMWV turret I had. I did have to pop the hatch and clear traffic away from us with the 9mm a few times, and there may have been a few vehicles that accidentally got ran over after they wouldn't get the fuck away from us. I /love/ the ASV. |
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Posted: 3/12/2014 9:12:27 AM EST
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Now you've done it. Everyone in GD will want one now. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The only people I ever saw driving them were fisters or some other sort of FA/FO capacity. They look pretty fun to drive, but I wouldn't want to have to PMCS it each week. You likely did not see an ASV then, but more likely the M1200 Armored Knight FO vehicle. http://media.defenceindustrydaily.com/images/LAND_M1200_Armored_Knight_Ramp_lg.jpg Now you've done it. Everyone in GD will want one now. I wish we had one when I was a COLT Chief. Instead, I had a soft-skinned M-998. |
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Posted: 3/12/2014 9:13:30 AM EST
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Did anyone mention that's not actually an M1117 ASV either? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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didn't we just do this thread? Kinda sorta. That one started out as a WTF is this thing? Did anyone mention that's not actually an M1117 ASV either? Yeah, you did. 
eta: what is COLT? I saw it in the other thread too. (I was an Air Force puke.) |
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Posted: 3/12/2014 9:14:02 AM EST
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I gunned in one for several months. I loved it, but I am a small guy who fit well in the turret. Hell of a lot more comfortable than the webbing strap of a seat for a HMMWV turret I had. I did have to pop the hatch and clear traffic away from us with the 9mm a few times, and there may have been a few vehicles that accidentally got ran over after they wouldn't get the fuck away from us. I /love/ the ASV. Its a fun vehicle, but people get all butthurt because it can't survive massive IEDs, which it was never designed to. This was put in service in 1999ish to give MOs something to do Kosovo style missions, and then they Army only bought 99 of them to shut up the MPs. Then Iraq kicks off and all of a sudden ewe are buying thousands of them as a stop gap till we can get enough up armored HMMWVs and MRAPs. |
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Posted: 3/12/2014 9:14:58 AM EST
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Yeah, you did.
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didn't we just do this thread? Kinda sorta. That one started out as a WTF is this thing? Did anyone mention that's not actually an M1117 ASV either? Yeah, you did.
Kind of an armor geek.
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Posted: 3/12/2014 9:15:23 AM EST
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i hate ASVs cramped no room and why the fuck do i have to pull up the floor and use a bilge pump to remove water... if water can get in the pressure of a IED would blow it apart... we were not allowed to use them in Kandahar. My unit has 4 of them and they suck
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Posted: 3/12/2014 9:27:37 AM EST
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Kind of an armor geek.
No! Couldn't tell! 
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Posted: 3/12/2014 9:29:51 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Its a fun vehicle, but people get all butthurt because it can't survive massive IEDs, which it was never designed to. This was put in service in 1999ish to give MOs something to do Kosovo style missions, and then they Army only bought 99 of them to shut up the MPs. Then Iraq kicks off and all of a sudden ewe are buying thousands of them as a stop gap till we can get enough up armored HMMWVs and MRAPs. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I gunned in one for several months. I loved it, but I am a small guy who fit well in the turret. Hell of a lot more comfortable than the webbing strap of a seat for a HMMWV turret I had. I did have to pop the hatch and clear traffic away from us with the 9mm a few times, and there may have been a few vehicles that accidentally got ran over after they wouldn't get the fuck away from us. I /love/ the ASV. Its a fun vehicle, but people get all butthurt because it can't survive massive IEDs, which it was never designed to. This was put in service in 1999ish to give MOs something to do Kosovo style missions, and then they Army only bought 99 of them to shut up the MPs. Then Iraq kicks off and all of a sudden ewe are buying thousands of them as a stop gap till we can get enough up armored HMMWVs and MRAPs. It's not a tank. I don't know why people expected them to be. |
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Posted: 3/12/2014 9:31:19 AM EST
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Wiki says they are 15 tons. I never would have thought that turd was 3/4 of the weight of a stryker.
 30K pounds for that little thing?
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Posted: 3/12/2014 9:31:59 AM EST
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we're pulling the pack on one this afternoon.
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Posted: 3/12/2014 9:33:01 AM EST
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Gigantic piece of shit. ^^^ This. It wouldn’t be soooo bad if mechanical issues didn’t plague them. They do drive like a Cadillac though |
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Posted: 3/13/2014 1:47:41 PM EST
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I had an ASV in my MP squad in Iraq and it came in handy.
The front was great for ramming in metal doors, I had a driver who could pop open a locked door like an artist. They also were good for towing broken down uparmoured humvees, which happened a lot. But by the time the Iraq war came around it was seriously obsolete: No V shaped hull to deflect IED's, no back ramp and a turret to take up more interior room. With powere traverse and manual elevation. And the driver and TC were basically wedged in the front and could barely move. Maintenance was never an issue with mine, but I had a good one. |
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