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Posted: 10/27/2014 12:10:49 AM EDT
 Open image in new browser to see the big picture. Any of you Tyndal AF guys know this jet? |
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Posted: 10/27/2014 1:31:16 AM EDT
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That's a sexy bitch.
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Posted: 10/27/2014 1:51:14 AM EDT
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When I was a cadet I spent a month at Tyndall for field training. I watched F-4 after F-4 take off, shortly followed by F-15s and the occasional F-22. Never saw any of the F-4s come back.
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Posted: 10/27/2014 2:35:05 AM EDT
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RF-4C, I don't know what the patch or panel just aft of the camera bay is. I don't see a yaw indicator either.
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Posted: 10/27/2014 3:12:04 AM EDT
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That's a sexy bitch.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/F-4B_VF-111_dropping_bombs_on_Vietnam.jpg And so far ahead of its time. The MIG-21 and Mirage 3 were certainly viable fighters, but were essentially a generation behind the F-4. You can even argue the MIG-23 and Mirage F1 were still at a disadvantage in some aspects compared to the F-4. The aircraft certainly represents the era when America was the top of the food chain world wide. |
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Posted: 10/27/2014 3:24:54 AM EDT
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Last time I saw an RF-4 that close was crossing Coyote Ridge north of Vegas during a Red Flag at 100 feet AGL.
He went opposite direction underneath me. That fucker was low. True story. |
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Posted: 10/27/2014 3:33:14 AM EDT
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and here she is before she was a drone,
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Posted: 10/27/2014 3:38:08 AM EDT
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The very idea they are going to blow her out of the sky made Mr. Hammer shed a tear...
Shouldn't we be using all those planes we gave / paid for the Afghan airforce that they are cutting up for scrap as live fire targets instead?? |
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Posted: 10/27/2014 3:59:03 AM EDT
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All in good time, son. Patience is key.
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Posted: 10/27/2014 6:12:48 AM EDT
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and here she is before she was a drone, https://farm7.staticflickr.com/6111/6272411183_75352646a5.jpg Zweibrücken ? Sir James... |
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Posted: 10/27/2014 6:20:26 AM EDT
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F4 Phantoms are alive and well in the ROKAF.
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Posted: 10/27/2014 6:29:51 AM EDT
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while I know why we convert older fighters to drones it still sucks to see great aircraft go out that way
long live the Phabulous Phantom 
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Posted: 10/27/2014 7:02:33 AM EDT
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A good friend of mine flew the slick RF-4s. Talk about a fast girl!
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Posted: 10/27/2014 7:14:54 PM EDT
[#13]
 QF-4 Ouija Board
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Posted: 10/27/2014 7:23:47 PM EDT
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Worked on F-4's at Moody 85-87. Definitely a love-hate relationship.
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Posted: 10/27/2014 7:37:30 PM EDT
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That's a shame.
I just got a new job with some crazy bastards who want to bring some S-3 vikings back to life 
I've already caught myself saying "Can we just dispo it 'use as is' cause I know if we press it (a bushing) out we are going to find corrosion behind it" 
I bet those F-4's are a little rough, especially the Navy planes. |
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Posted: 10/27/2014 7:37:31 PM EDT
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Back in '83-'85 while stationed at K-bay, me and a few friends would
sit on the beach at the end of the runway drink beer and watch the F-4s take off and land, pretty awsome as they come in! |
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Posted: 10/27/2014 7:59:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That's a shame. I just got a new job with some crazy bastards who want to bring some S-3 vikings back to life I've already caught myself saying "Can we just dispo it 'use as is' cause I know if we press it (a bushing) out we are going to find corrosion behind it" I bet those F-4's are a little rough, especially the Navy planes. No Navy planes in the USAF's QF-4 program.
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Posted: 10/27/2014 8:02:42 PM EDT
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No Navy planes in the USAF's QF-4 program.
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That's a shame. I just got a new job with some crazy bastards who want to bring some S-3 vikings back to life
I've already caught myself saying "Can we just dispo it 'use as is' cause I know if we press it (a bushing) out we are going to find corrosion behind it"
I bet those F-4's are a little rough, especially the Navy planes. No Navy planes in the USAF's QF-4 program.
Does the navy have their own program? What happened to the navy version? |
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Posted: 10/27/2014 8:03:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does the navy have their own program? What happened to the navy version? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: That's a shame. I just got a new job with some crazy bastards who want to bring some S-3 vikings back to life I've already caught myself saying "Can we just dispo it 'use as is' cause I know if we press it (a bushing) out we are going to find corrosion behind it" I bet those F-4's are a little rough, especially the Navy planes. No Navy planes in the USAF's QF-4 program. Does the navy have their own program? What happened to the navy version? Google, it's a motherfucker.
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Posted: 10/27/2014 8:10:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Google, it's a motherfucker. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: That's a shame. I just got a new job with some crazy bastards who want to bring some S-3 vikings back to life I've already caught myself saying "Can we just dispo it 'use as is' cause I know if we press it (a bushing) out we are going to find corrosion behind it" I bet those F-4's are a little rough, especially the Navy planes. No Navy planes in the USAF's QF-4 program. Does the navy have their own program? What happened to the navy version? Google, it's a motherfucker. Back in 1990, there were still F86's at Mugu with Ensign Nolo packages aboard... |
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Posted: 10/27/2014 9:40:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: That's a shame. I just got a new job with some crazy bastards who want to bring some S-3 vikings back to life I've already caught myself saying "Can we just dispo it 'use as is' cause I know if we press it (a bushing) out we are going to find corrosion behind it" I bet those F-4's are a little rough, especially the Navy planes. No Navy planes in the USAF's QF-4 program. Does the navy have their own program? What happened to the navy version? Google, it's a motherfucker. Back in 1990, there were still F86's at Mugu with Ensign Nolo packages aboard... QF-86's were operated out of Mugu until 1987. |
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Posted: 10/27/2014 9:48:05 PM EDT
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The F4 was always one of those jets that looked like the big ass defensive ends in an era filled with small safety's. Sorry, I'm watching football, so that's the analogy you get tonight.
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Posted: 10/27/2014 11:39:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Back in 1990, there were still F86's at Mugu with Ensign Nolo packages aboard... Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: No Navy planes in the USAF's QF-4 program. Does the navy have their own program? What happened to the navy version? Google, it's a motherfucker. Back in 1990, there were still F86's at Mugu with Ensign Nolo packages aboard... QF-86's were operated out of Mugu until 1987. I don't know if it was just sitting on the tarmac in a down status, but you could see the red box inside the cockpit. It was at the first set of hangers after you turn off Mugu Dr onto 11th. I had never seen a Saber in person before and she was a sexy beastie. |
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Posted: 10/27/2014 11:43:37 PM EDT
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Last time I saw an RF-4 that close was crossing Coyote Ridge north of Vegas during a Red Flag at 100 feet AGL. He went opposite direction underneath me. That fucker was low. True story. How much seat cushion came with you when you got out? |
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Posted: 10/27/2014 11:58:23 PM EDT
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When I was a cadet I spent a month at Tyndall for field training. I watched F-4 after F-4 take off, shortly followed by F-15s and the occasional F-22. Never saw any of the F-4s come back. If you saw the F-4s taking from the same runways as the 15s and 22s, then they had a pilot in them and came back. F-4s takeoff from a different runway when they are being flown remotely. You cannot see the drone runway from the main runway area. |
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Posted: 10/28/2014 12:02:17 AM EDT
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while I know why we convert older fighters to drones it still sucks to see great aircraft go out that way
long live the Phabulous Phantom http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3e/F-4G_A-10A_RF-4C_USAFE_in_flight_1987.JPEG I know this is an F4 thread but I'm digging that camo on the A10 |
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Posted: 10/28/2014 12:04:05 AM EDT
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When I was in middle school I used to watch F4's fly over my neighborhood. They wood come over at about 1000ft the engine sound would be just behind them.
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Posted: 10/28/2014 12:06:34 AM EDT
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My dad was a backseater in RF-4's in the early '70s.
I've posted this before but my uncle (dad's brother) was shot down and rescued in Vietnam while flying F-4's. http://honestly-speaking.com/NoTime.html |
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Posted: 10/28/2014 12:11:51 AM EDT
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Death Rows for the QF-4.
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Posted: 10/28/2014 12:18:55 AM EDT
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Does the navy have their own program? What happened to the navy version? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's a shame. I just got a new job with some crazy bastards who want to bring some S-3 vikings back to life
I've already caught myself saying "Can we just dispo it 'use as is' cause I know if we press it (a bushing) out we are going to find corrosion behind it"
I bet those F-4's are a little rough, especially the Navy planes. No Navy planes in the USAF's QF-4 program. Does the navy have their own program? What happened to the navy version? The Navy F=4 drone program was shut down as result of the Phantom crash at the Point Mugu airshow crash a few years back. The plane was a drone with a crew flying and they went in with the bird. Navy axed their Phantom drones right then and AF had to provide QF-4s for the AIM-9X testing program at China Lake. The Navy actually started their Phantom drone program several years before we did in the AF and we provided the flight dynamics package for their F-4S, since they were so close to the F-4E and we had just gone through an entire aero modeling process for our F-4E/G simulator upgrade. We also provided sim time for the Navy drone pilots, since they had shut down their sim program plus we gave them an old F-4C simulator cockpit they converted into their drone control cockpit. |
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Posted: 10/28/2014 12:33:26 AM EDT
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http://www.vaq34.com/junk/qf-4_death_001.jpg Open image in new browser to see the big picture. Any of you Tyndal AF guys know this jet? RF-4C 68-589, probably one of not THE most photographed RF-4C in the inventory. She spent most of her career in Europe and was featured in published photographs wearing different paint schemes and markings for RAF Alconbury, UK, Aviano Air Base, Italy, Ramstien Air Base, Germany and Zwiebrucken Air Base Germany as well as during Desert Storm. Sad to see the old girl go out this way, but a lot of notable F-4s have met their end as drones. We had some F-4Gs that were still wearing Mig kill markings from their lives as F-4Es over Viet Nam. Some had as many as 3 red stars on the intake splitters. There was talk about those birds being held back for museums, but somebody decided that it wasn't worth the effort and those historically significant Phantoms were used for target practice. |
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Posted: 10/28/2014 1:20:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Back in 1990, there were still F86's at Mugu with Ensign Nolo packages aboard... QF-86's were operated out of Mugu until 1987. I don't know if it was just sitting on the tarmac in a down status, but you could see the red box inside the cockpit. It was at the first set of hangers after you turn off Mugu Dr onto 11th. I had never seen a Saber in person before and she was a sexy beastie. Targets - QF-86, QF-4 and sometimes the DC-130A, then VX-4 and F-14's and F-18's, then the Range P-3's (Billboards and slicks), then the Air Terminal, then VXE-6 with LC-130's and UH-1N's / Station SAR CH-46E's / Station UC-12B's, then the A-3 line, then the contractor A-6E's and A-7E's, turn the corner and then it was OMA with F-14's and F-18's and A-3's and then the Spook P-3 hangar. I had friends who worked on the QF-86's and the QF-4's up until the day they closed the QF program down. |
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Posted: 10/28/2014 1:22:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: RF-4C 68-589, probably one of not THE most photographed RF-4C in the inventory. She spent most of her career in Europe and was featured in published photographs wearing different paint schemes and markings for RAF Alconbury, UK, Aviano Air Base, Italy, Ramstien Air Base, Germany and Zwiebrucken Air Base Germany as well as during Desert Storm. Sad to see the old girl go out this way, but a lot of notable F-4s have met their end as drones. We had some F-4Gs that were still wearing Mig kill markings from their lives as F-4Es over Viet Nam. Some had as many as 3 red stars on the intake splitters. There was talk about those birds being held back for museums, but somebody decided that it wasn't worth the effort and those historically significant Phantoms were used for target practice. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: http://www.vaq34.com/junk/qf-4_death_001.jpg Open image in new browser to see the big picture. Any of you Tyndal AF guys know this jet? RF-4C 68-589, probably one of not THE most photographed RF-4C in the inventory. She spent most of her career in Europe and was featured in published photographs wearing different paint schemes and markings for RAF Alconbury, UK, Aviano Air Base, Italy, Ramstien Air Base, Germany and Zwiebrucken Air Base Germany as well as during Desert Storm. Sad to see the old girl go out this way, but a lot of notable F-4s have met their end as drones. We had some F-4Gs that were still wearing Mig kill markings from their lives as F-4Es over Viet Nam. Some had as many as 3 red stars on the intake splitters. There was talk about those birds being held back for museums, but somebody decided that it wasn't worth the effort and those historically significant Phantoms were used for target practice. I mean know this aircraft at Tyndal.
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Posted: 10/28/2014 1:44:06 AM EDT
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Back in 1990, there were still F86's at Mugu with Ensign Nolo packages aboard... Quote HistoryQuoted:
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That's a shame. I just got a new job with some crazy bastards who want to bring some S-3 vikings back to life
I've already caught myself saying "Can we just dispo it 'use as is' cause I know if we press it (a bushing) out we are going to find corrosion behind it"
I bet those F-4's are a little rough, especially the Navy planes. No Navy planes in the USAF's QF-4 program.
Does the navy have their own program? What happened to the navy version? Google, it's a motherfucker. Back in 1990, there were still F86's at Mugu with Ensign Nolo packages aboard... Yep. I took the left wing off one with an RTM-7P
Those F-4's sure are pretty airplanes though. |
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Posted: 10/28/2014 9:42:03 AM EDT
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Back in '83-'85 while stationed at K-bay, me and a few friends would sit on the beach at the end of the runway drink beer and watch the F-4s take off and land, pretty awsome as they come in! Hey me too. I was with VMFA 212 from 82-85. Kaneohe Bay was an awesome duty station
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Posted: 10/28/2014 2:16:27 PM EDT
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How much seat cushion came with you when you got out? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Last time I saw an RF-4 that close was crossing Coyote Ridge north of Vegas during a Red Flag at 100 feet AGL. He went opposite direction underneath me. That fucker was low. True story. How much seat cushion came with you when you got out? none. Doing that job you get get used to shit like that. |
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Posted: 10/28/2014 2:25:14 PM EDT
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I'm glad to have gotten to see one flying as the USAF brought one up to Andrews in Vietnam colors a few years back.
At least the Collings Foundation managed to get one. http://www.collingsfoundation.org/tx_f-4dphantom.htm |
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Posted: 10/31/2014 3:11:13 AM EDT
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I'm glad to have gotten to see one flying as the USAF brought one up to Andrews in Vietnam colors a few years back. At least the Collings Foundation managed to get one. http://www.collingsfoundation.org/tx_f-4dphantom.htm I saw that and for the meager sum of $12,500 you can get a backseat ride in their F-4. |
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