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Posted: 1/8/2015 7:37:49 PM EDT
  While watching the news with so many French LEO searching for the two POS, reminds me of Boston. Is it tradition that they wear the full face shield, versus US LEO who wears goggles? Any advantages to either or?  |
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Posted: 1/8/2015 7:39:06 PM EDT
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That is not a welding helmet.
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Posted: 1/8/2015 7:39:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That is not a welding helmet. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile i know, it was a joke.
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Posted: 1/8/2015 7:39:31 PM EDT
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I have no idea how he plans to use the sights on that g36
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Posted: 1/8/2015 7:40:03 PM EDT
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Quoted: While watching the news with so many French LEO searching for the two POS, reminds me of Boston. Is it tradition that they wear the full face shield, versus US LEO who wears goggles? Any advantages to either or? |
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Posted: 1/8/2015 7:40:19 PM EDT
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That looks like bullet proof shielding OP.
Oakley's don't stop 5.56? |
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Posted: 1/8/2015 7:40:43 PM EDT
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I have no idea how he plans to use the sights on that g36 Good point. Should get a medium eye relief unit. |
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Posted: 1/8/2015 7:41:19 PM EDT
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Any advantages to either or? Well, one will stop most pistol rounds, and the other one won't, so there's that.... |
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Posted: 1/8/2015 7:41:22 PM EDT
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How heavy is that helmet, with the thick glass and all
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Posted: 1/8/2015 7:42:40 PM EDT
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Ballistic face shield. Stops 9mm/.40cal. I was issued one back in the day and have it laying in the bottom of a closet somewhere. Probably a good idea for stopping bullet, but a horrible idea for your neck. |
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Posted: 1/8/2015 7:42:58 PM EDT
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The French really like the bullet resistant face shields. GIGN is well known as using them. They have even procured stocks for their MP5's among other weapons (made by B&T as I recall) specifically designed to work with the face shields. It's not really popular with the professional face shooters on this side of the pond, but I suppose it has it's advantages and it's not like GIGN et al dont have an impressive record of doing bad things to bad people effectively. So I dont know that I can criticize their love for them either way.
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Posted: 1/8/2015 7:44:50 PM EDT
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They issue them to all the guys with Glocks.
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Posted: 1/8/2015 7:45:50 PM EDT
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Ballistic face shield. Stops 9mm/.40cal. I was issued one back in the day and have it laying in the bottom of a closet somewhere. Probably a good idea for stopping bullet, but a horrible idea for your neck. How does it work with a rifle? Or is not meant to? |
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Posted: 1/8/2015 7:49:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: How does it work with a rifle? Or is not meant to? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ballistic face shield. Stops 9mm/.40cal. I was issued one back in the day and have it laying in the bottom of a closet somewhere. Probably a good idea for stopping bullet, but a horrible idea for your neck. How does it work with a rifle? Or is not meant to? You can make it work. I had an MP-5 assigned to me at the time. Iron sights were a no go so I put an Aimpoint with high rings and B&T mount and it got the job done. I had to shoot the MP-5 with a CQB cant, but I just adjusted for offset. |
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Posted: 1/8/2015 7:59:11 PM EDT
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Here is the stock.
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Posted: 1/8/2015 8:00:48 PM EDT
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This reminded me the french tactical pencil drawing guy hasn't been around lately
marskiller? Dude was seriously talented |
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Posted: 1/8/2015 8:02:13 PM EDT
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Quote Historyand that shows how thick the shield is too. is that the polish or german police?
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Posted: 1/8/2015 8:03:10 PM EDT
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Face shields are fine if you don't need to aim.
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Posted: 1/8/2015 8:03:11 PM EDT
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and that shows how thick the shield is too. is that the polish or german police? Quote HistoryQuoted:
and that shows how thick the shield is too. is that the polish or german police? My guess would be French given the revolver, but I'm not sure. There's no z in the French spelling of police and some German SWAT units use the S&W 13/65 series of revolvers. |
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Posted: 1/8/2015 8:04:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryIs that the WTF mag clamp? |
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Posted: 1/8/2015 8:07:43 PM EDT
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German Federal Polizei wear those too.
Those French guys are very, very good. They have an excellent track record. |
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Posted: 1/8/2015 8:10:50 PM EDT
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That looks like bullet proof shielding OP. Oakley's don't stop 5.56? M193 or Xm855? from a 20" barrel close up?
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Posted: 1/8/2015 8:11:04 PM EDT
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Posted: 1/8/2015 8:12:24 PM EDT
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Is that the WTF mag clamp? Quote HistoryQuoted:
He has one mag going one way, and the other pointed in opposite direction. Not sure why. |
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Posted: 1/8/2015 8:14:44 PM EDT
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Good point. Should get a medium eye relief unit. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I have no idea how he plans to use the sights on that g36 Good point. Should get a medium eye relief unit. You ever shot the G36? Not being able to use the sights doesn't really matter. 
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Posted: 1/8/2015 8:15:05 PM EDT
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How does it work with a rifle? Or is not meant to? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ballistic face shield. Stops 9mm/.40cal. I was issued one back in the day and have it laying in the bottom of a closet somewhere. Probably a good idea for stopping bullet, but a horrible idea for your neck. How does it work with a rifle? Or is not meant to? GREAT QUESTION!
Beowulf X now available overseas |
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Posted: 1/8/2015 8:15:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryWhat's in his leg holster? Looks like a revolver with a light at the bottom of the stock. Never seen a European LEO with a revolver. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 1/8/2015 8:15:59 PM EDT
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I've seen one of those shot before (referring to the super thick face shield used by GIGN and not those thin ones you see in the above examples)
It has two layers of protection. The first one shatters away when hit by a bullet and there is a second layer that stays intact to prevent the material from flying into their face. I'm not sure if the second layer has ballistic protection. |
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Posted: 1/8/2015 8:16:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: He has one mag going one way, and the other pointed in opposite direction. Not sure why. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: He has one mag going one way, and the other pointed in opposite direction. Not sure why. |
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Posted: 1/8/2015 8:16:29 PM EDT
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GREAT QUESTION! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ballistic face shield. Stops 9mm/.40cal. I was issued one back in the day and have it laying in the bottom of a closet somewhere. Probably a good idea for stopping bullet, but a horrible idea for your neck. How does it work with a rifle? Or is not meant to? GREAT QUESTION! Scroll up. Looks like beowulfx could have found some customers. |
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Posted: 1/8/2015 8:16:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryLooks like he is rolling with the revolver. |
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Posted: 1/8/2015 8:17:55 PM EDT
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Scroll up. Looks like beowulfx could have found some customers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Ballistic face shield. Stops 9mm/.40cal. I was issued one back in the day and have it laying in the bottom of a closet somewhere. Probably a good idea for stopping bullet, but a horrible idea for your neck. How does it work with a rifle? Or is not meant to? GREAT QUESTION! Scroll up. Looks like beowulfx could have found some customers. That was the joke
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Posted: 1/8/2015 8:19:10 PM EDT
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I have no idea how he plans to use the sights on that g36 It doesn't matter. Even if you aim a G36 you probably wont hit anything. |
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Posted: 1/8/2015 8:24:08 PM EDT
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Russian and German versions.
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Posted: 1/8/2015 8:28:24 PM EDT
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Quote Historycommie one doesnt look heavy at all. christ, you'd have to do pushups backwards with your head to wear that fucking thing. |
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Posted: 1/8/2015 8:29:03 PM EDT
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Those face shields protect against pistol calibers. The Russians have a face shield which protects against rifle calibers, but it's very heavy.
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Posted: 1/8/2015 8:31:23 PM EDT
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Looks like he is rolling with the revolver. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Looks like he is rolling with the revolver. It's not uncommon, especially for SWAT teams. The Frogs use Manurhin MR73, the Krauts S&W of some sort, and the Norwegians used to have S&W 27 in the good old days. |
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Posted: 1/8/2015 8:32:40 PM EDT
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Here's a pill box for your head.
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Posted: 1/8/2015 8:33:25 PM EDT
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Not a hijack, but, what is with the dual thigh and chest pistol rigs some of those guys are carrying? Doesn't look like the thigh rigs are tasers/"non-lethal" configs... Luc Besson syndrome? Oh, and shout out to whoever made the picture! The laughs hurt my broken rib(s). |
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