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Posted: 1/2/2016 7:19:07 AM EDT
Saudi Arabia or Israel?
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 7:20:02 AM EDT
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Israel.......easy (not for me, for Iran)
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 7:20:11 AM EDT
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Iran.. .They would never see it coming...
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 7:20:20 AM EDT
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The Great Satan
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 7:21:26 AM EDT
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lol
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 7:26:40 AM EDT
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This. The element of surprise is the most important thing. Sure you could nuke who the world expects you to, but where is the fun in that?

 
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 7:26:51 AM EDT
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Neither. Iran would nuke John Kerry because they consider fags to be an abomination to Islam.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 7:32:23 AM EDT
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Iran is too smart to directly nuke anybody. They would sell some of their rockets to the gaza strip, or maybe sell nuclear material to CIA rebels such as ISIS if they turned on us
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 7:36:11 AM EDT
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Nobody
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 7:38:26 AM EDT
[#9]
Myself.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 7:55:23 AM EDT
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FIFY
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 7:57:07 AM EDT
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Suicide nuke FTW
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 8:03:09 AM EDT
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They'll disguise a rocket as a camel, take it into Pakistan, then launch it at India.





India vaporizes Pakistan, and the US is forced to close all 7-Eleven stores.




 
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 8:03:19 AM EDT
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Pakistan.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 8:06:40 AM EDT
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Nobody. With nukes, the NCA wouldn't have to worrythemselves with US invasion, although there would be those pesky SF running around still. It would improve their strencth in the region, andmay actually force themselves to become moderate.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 8:08:12 AM EDT
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It will be a US carrier.

And they welcome the devastation that will follow, the twelvers waiting for the return of the mahdi.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 12:17:51 PM EDT
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Several years back, when N. Korea had a US Media derided "fizzle yield" test, that was air sniffed and found to be plutonium, someone I know well reported to several disbelieving congress critters
the result would be a hydrogen bomb.  Iran furnished the plutonium, derived from the research reactor,which perhaps now has had three fuel cycles.  Iran was found with undeclared possession of the
processing and enrichment technology and equipment, unclass US Senate Report. (early 2000 maybe 3 or 4)

Iran mines lithium, and the necessary gas deuterium (?) was present at one of Irans plants.

Curve of Binding Energy, (McPhee) has details

Nuclear rivalry and the cold war (?) chapter in Quigley book Tragedy and Hope, details the Russians 1st design.

Likely Iran has plans for six, 1 ea for Israel, USA, Germany, France, Britain and one other not so sure of. Not Saudi.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 12:23:32 PM EDT
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It will be a US carrier.

And they welcome the devastation that will follow, the twelvers waiting for the return of the mahdi.
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It will be a US carrier.

And they welcome the devastation that will follow, the twelvers waiting for the return of the mahdi.



Tried a few years back to promote a careful computer site project, using the mahdi well, for the return of the mahdi by a muslim version of Elvis, doing a song written by the Maine Beetroots (sp)

""Knock, Knock, Knock it's the Army of God (3x), Hezbollah is NOT the Army of God.    

A video that could go Viral.....

Have at it, anyone!!
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 12:23:46 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/2/2016 12:26:24 PM EDT
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That would change how things are done in 'murca.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 12:26:44 PM EDT
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I'd pay some Dutchman to set fire to Lord Snowden
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 12:29:55 PM EDT
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Israel.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 12:32:39 PM EDT
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Assuming they are a rational actor, acting in their own best interests, it is not the use of an Iranian nuke (by anyone) that puts them in the catbird seat, it's the existence and possession of one.




A nuke is much for valuable to them as inventory than it is based on battlefield effects.




If they used a nuke, Islamic Republic of Iran would cease to exist. They know that.




As a country with a nuke in their inventory, that adds incalculable leverage to any international interaction/transaction they engage in.




Having it, not using it (or allowing it to be used) is where the greatest advantage lies.



Link Posted: 1/2/2016 2:06:14 PM EDT
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Who would you nuke first?

Stupid question is beyond stupid.

Link Posted: 1/2/2016 3:30:56 PM EDT
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This.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 3:36:51 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/2/2016 4:00:30 PM EDT
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Its a tough call. God clearly wants Israel destroyed, but Israel has submarines and will nuke Iran back with the intent of killing the bulk of the population.

  Nuking the US is even tougher, Maybe Obama would not retaliate, but every other President would and Iran would never recover

  Hitting Saudi Arabia would be a good option. strike Riyadh and Jeddah leave Mecca and Medina out of it then make a deal with Kuwait and the survivors of Arabia, occupy the eastern portion of Saudi Arabia and tell the rest of the gulf states to back off. Threaten the world oil supply if there is outside interference and then send out peace feelers to the west.

  If Iran hits Saudi Arabia and the world is presented with a quick fait a comple  we might just stay out of it.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 4:05:56 PM EDT
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Assuming they are a rational actor, acting in their own best interests, it is not the use of an Iranian nuke (by anyone) that puts them in the catbird seat, it's the existence and possession of one.


A nuke is much for valuable to them as inventory than it is based on battlefield effects.


If they used a nuke, Islamic Republic of Iran would cease to exist. They know that.


As a country with a nuke in their inventory, that adds incalculable leverage to any international interaction/transaction they engage in.


Having it, not using it (or allowing it to be used) is where the greatest advantage lies.


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Iran is too smart to directly nuke anybody. They would sell some of their rockets to the gaza strip, or maybe sell nuclear material to CIA rebels such as ISIS if they turned on us

 

Assuming they are a rational actor, acting in their own best interests, it is not the use of an Iranian nuke (by anyone) that puts them in the catbird seat, it's the existence and possession of one.


A nuke is much for valuable to them as inventory than it is based on battlefield effects.


If they used a nuke, Islamic Republic of Iran would cease to exist. They know that.


As a country with a nuke in their inventory, that adds incalculable leverage to any international interaction/transaction they engage in.


Having it, not using it (or allowing it to be used) is where the greatest advantage lies.




  I used to think this also, but if they used one and then backed it up with a real solid threat to destroying the worlds oil supply we might not pull the trigger.

  Is the UAE, Saudi Arabia or Bahrain really worth it to us?   Isreal and Pakistan would hit them back, but would either intervene and run the risk of a nuclear war for Saudi Arabia?
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 4:07:29 PM EDT
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It will be a US carrier.

And they welcome the devastation that will follow, the twelvers waiting for the return of the mahdi.
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It will be a US carrier.

And they welcome the devastation that will follow, the twelvers waiting for the return of the mahdi.

Hopefully not the Ike because, umm, I don't have sunscreen.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 4:12:13 PM EDT
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Nobody. I'd just make everybody think I'd use it, but not certain enough to do anything about it.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 4:13:55 PM EDT
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It will be a nuking out of desperation from an escalating war in the region.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 4:16:36 PM EDT
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Israel gets one because if they are opening up a case of canned sunshine, everyone has time to share a drink with old friends. I just can't imagine an iranian initiated thermonuclear conflagration that doesn't feature the total innihilation of the jewish state as the opening number.

The Saudi's and Jordanian's are getting them too because they are the ones who would be most able to retaliate besides the Jews and the only other "maybe we have nukes but maybe we don't" states in the region.

Expect Iran and Pakistan to have a secret agreement where pakistan stays out of the fight and reneg on their agreement to snap-release nukes to their saudi and jordanian bank-rollers and just keep their nukes and thumb their noses up at the royals all "thanks for funding our nuclear program LOL!!!"
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 4:21:29 PM EDT
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I hope they're not considering it, but fear they may actually use the bomb.
If they do I think they'll attack both of your proposed targets simultaneously.
With OP suggesting options the thread needs a poll.

Cheers!
-JC
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 4:22:18 PM EDT
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The Kardashians.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 4:25:44 PM EDT
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Its 2015
People go absolutely buttblasted over suggesting deportations.

I cannot imaging the global plutonium powered asshurt if somebody actually lit the fuse on a nuke.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 4:28:11 PM EDT
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Here http://nuclearsecrecy.com/nukemap/ Why not have fun with your WMD attack?
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 4:28:19 PM EDT
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Kyrgyzstan
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 4:29:12 PM EDT
[#37]
#KIMJONGUN
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 4:30:59 PM EDT
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Pakistan and Israel at the same time.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 4:34:53 PM EDT
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Am
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  I used to think this also, but if they used one and then backed it up with a real solid threat to destroying the worlds oil supply we might not pull the trigger.

  Is the UAE, Saudi Arabia or Bahrain really worth it to us?   Isreal and Pakistan would hit them back, but would either intervene and run the risk of a nuclear war for Saudi Arabia?
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Iran is too smart to directly nuke anybody. They would sell some of their rockets to the gaza strip, or maybe sell nuclear material to CIA rebels such as ISIS if they turned on us

 

Assuming they are a rational actor, acting in their own best interests, it is not the use of an Iranian nuke (by anyone) that puts them in the catbird seat, it's the existence and possession of one.


A nuke is much for valuable to them as inventory than it is based on battlefield effects.


If they used a nuke, Islamic Republic of Iran would cease to exist. They know that.


As a country with a nuke in their inventory, that adds incalculable leverage to any international interaction/transaction they engage in.


Having it, not using it (or allowing it to be used) is where the greatest advantage lies.




  I used to think this also, but if they used one and then backed it up with a real solid threat to destroying the worlds oil supply we might not pull the trigger.

  Is the UAE, Saudi Arabia or Bahrain really worth it to us?   Isreal and Pakistan would hit them back, but would either intervene and run the risk of a nuclear war for Saudi Arabia?



It wouldn't just be the U.S.

If we did nothing, their neighbors would take them down.

Russian and Iranian interests are aligned, at present, but there is no way they'd tolerate a neighbor with a shared border using nukes, under any circumstances, IMO.

Literally everybody would be gunning for them.

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Link Posted: 1/2/2016 4:36:34 PM EDT
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I'd do it while Obama is in office.  He won't retaliate; it might jeopardize the nuclear deal he made.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 4:38:51 PM EDT
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Nuke themselves claiming it to be Israel and unite Arab support to annihilate Israel from the face of the globe.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 4:44:10 PM EDT
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before i scroll down, did anyone select "myself"?

damn-it, third post got it.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 4:47:03 PM EDT
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Assuming they are a rational actor, acting in their own best interests, it is not the use of an Iranian nuke (by anyone) that puts them in the catbird seat, it's the existence and possession of one.


A nuke is much for valuable to them as inventory than it is based on battlefield effects.


If they used a nuke, Islamic Republic of Iran would cease to exist. They know that.


As a country with a nuke in their inventory, that adds incalculable leverage to any international interaction/transaction they engage in.


Having it, not using it (or allowing it to be used) is where the greatest advantage lies.


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Iran is too smart to directly nuke anybody. They would sell some of their rockets to the gaza strip, or maybe sell nuclear material to CIA rebels such as ISIS if they turned on us

 

Assuming they are a rational actor, acting in their own best interests, it is not the use of an Iranian nuke (by anyone) that puts them in the catbird seat, it's the existence and possession of one.


A nuke is much for valuable to them as inventory than it is based on battlefield effects.


If they used a nuke, Islamic Republic of Iran would cease to exist. They know that.


As a country with a nuke in their inventory, that adds incalculable leverage to any international interaction/transaction they engage in.


Having it, not using it (or allowing it to be used) is where the greatest advantage lies.




That depends on what their interests are.   You have to know those interests, not just whether or not they're rational.

Even a moderately sized nuke in Long Beach, NYC, Savannah, Seattle/Tacoma, etc, would, with the right amount of plausible deniability, probably keep the West out of their hair for a long time.   Somewhere on the West coast would probably be most effective due to fallout.   The economic devastation would be immense.

That's assuming the Dumbass in Chief is still in office, of course.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 4:49:12 PM EDT
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That's what Obama and Kerry said - a nuclear armed Iran will be a voice of moderation in the world and, since they won't have to worry about imperialist, aggressive powers, like the US, invading it,
they will become peaceful and moderate. Obviously Iran wasn't the problem all these years, the US and other western powers were.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 4:52:11 PM EDT
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Rome
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If they used a nuke, Islamic Republic of Iran would cease to exist. They know that.
As a country with a nuke in their inventory, that adds incalculable leverage to any international interaction/transaction they engage in.
Having it, not using it (or allowing it to be used) is where the greatest advantage lies.

This.



Not.  You are ascribing sane thinking to the shiite twelvers (ayatollahs) who run iran.  These are wackjobs who drops notes down a well for the boy mahdi who drowned in that well a thousand years ago or some such, will rise again to lead the battle of the apocalypse.
They also believe this battle will bring the return of jesus.  I don't thik they believe the mahdi and jesus will be on the same side.

I say it will be a US target and probably something big like a carrier.  
If they only have 5-10 nuclear bombs, that's not enough to lay waste to israel.  So that's why it be be against the great satan.  And they know BHO and his iranian born handler, valerie, are not likely to retaliate.
If they think that a strike against israel and israel's counterstrike (which will be nuclear) will ignite a regional war against israel, then they will launch a few at them too.  But the only ones that will get too worked up against israel will be the palestinans ( and no one in the region wants or likes them either, they are just tools).  Oh, and the jew  hating libs in the USA.  For many of the rest in that region, the iranian mullahs are a bigger problem than the israelis.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 4:54:38 PM EDT
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The question is will Iran announce they have an operational nuke or just send a few to destroy Israel or Saudi Arabia ?

Either way, if they do decide to nuke anybody it would be a very bad idea.
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 4:55:21 PM EDT
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Its 2015

People go absolutely buttblasted over suggesting deportations.



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No it's not



 
Link Posted: 1/2/2016 4:56:30 PM EDT
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Lol, the Shiites aren't going to sell the Sunnis nuclear material. They're in a proxy war with them.

The Saudis are backing ISIS, Iran is backing the Shiites in the area, it's a proxy war.
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That depends on what their interests are.   You have to know those interests, not just whether or not they're rational.

Even a moderately sized nuke in Long Beach, NYC, Savannah, Seattle/Tacoma, etc, would, with the right amount of plausible deniability, probably keep the West out of their hair for a long time.   Somewhere on the West coast would probably be most effective due to fallout.   The economic devastation would be immense.

That's assuming the Dumbass in Chief is still in office, of course.
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Iran is too smart to directly nuke anybody. They would sell some of their rockets to the gaza strip, or maybe sell nuclear material to CIA rebels such as ISIS if they turned on us

 

Assuming they are a rational actor, acting in their own best interests, it is not the use of an Iranian nuke (by anyone) that puts them in the catbird seat, it's the existence and possession of one.


A nuke is much for valuable to them as inventory than it is based on battlefield effects.


If they used a nuke, Islamic Republic of Iran would cease to exist. They know that.


As a country with a nuke in their inventory, that adds incalculable leverage to any international interaction/transaction they engage in.


Having it, not using it (or allowing it to be used) is where the greatest advantage lies.




That depends on what their interests are.   You have to know those interests, not just whether or not they're rational.

Even a moderately sized nuke in Long Beach, NYC, Savannah, Seattle/Tacoma, etc, would, with the right amount of plausible deniability, probably keep the West out of their hair for a long time.   Somewhere on the West coast would probably be most effective due to fallout.   The economic devastation would be immense.

That's assuming the Dumbass in Chief is still in office, of course.

You're out of your league, kid.
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