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Posted: 1/20/2016 11:19:54 AM EST
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Interesting.
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Posted: 1/20/2016 11:20:12 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: It's gotten great early reviews. You have to remember, this is Ryan Reynold's pet project. He had to fight for it tooth and nail with Fox. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: meh Agreed. Doesn't look all that good to me. I won't be going to the movies to see it Plan to see the Superman/Batman movie. Not sure about DeadPool. I have a feeling all the best parts have been shown in the trailers  I'm all but certain that Deadpool will suck big time. . It's gotten great early reviews. You have to remember, this is Ryan Reynold's pet project. He had to fight for it tooth and nail with Fox. this.. its gonna be a fucking great movie.. there isn't a better actor the world over that could do it ... Dead pool Bat V Super Capt America Civil War X Men Apocalypse Suicide Squad Star Trek Beyond Bourne 5 this year won't fucking suck ... Leto as Joker will be fine.. its no ledger but everyone knows that ... as long as you don't expect a ledger performance you will be able to sleep at night now if they would just get off their asses and start Gambit (supposedly coming out in fall this year) like they said 3 years ago.. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 11:44:08 AM EST
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this.. its gonna be a fucking great movie.. there isn't a better actor the world over that could do it ... Dead pool Bat V Super Capt America Civil War X Men Apocalypse Suicide Squad Star Trek Beyond Bourne 5 this year won't fucking suck ... Leto as Joker will be fine.. its no ledger but everyone knows that ... as long as you don't expect a ledger performance you will be able to sleep at night now if they would just get off their asses and start Gambit (supposedly coming out in fall this year) like they said 3 years ago.. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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meh Agreed. Doesn't look all that good to me. I won't be going to the movies to see it Plan to see the Superman/Batman movie. Not sure about DeadPool. I have a feeling all the best parts have been shown in the trailers I'm all but certain that Deadpool will suck big time. . It's gotten great early reviews. You have to remember, this is Ryan Reynold's pet project. He had to fight for it tooth and nail with Fox. this.. its gonna be a fucking great movie.. there isn't a better actor the world over that could do it ... Dead pool Bat V Super Capt America Civil War X Men Apocalypse Suicide Squad Star Trek Beyond Bourne 5 this year won't fucking suck ... Leto as Joker will be fine.. its no ledger but everyone knows that ... as long as you don't expect a ledger performance you will be able to sleep at night now if they would just get off their asses and start Gambit (supposedly coming out in fall this year) like they said 3 years ago.. I don't know. X-Men Apocalypse looks mediocre at best. I'm also lumping both Dawn of Justice and Suicide Squad in the mediocre category as well. Even though the latest Suicide Squad trailer looks good... |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 11:59:19 AM EST
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I don't know. X-Men Apocalypse looks mediocre at best. I'm also lumping both Dawn of Justice and Suicide Squad in the mediocre category as well. Even though the latest Suicide Squad trailer looks good... X Men Age of Apocalypse is the one that has me the most worried. It just doesn't look good. Dawn of Justice I will see, just because it's an event. I may see Suicide Squad in theaters if it gets good reviews. If it gets mediocre or bad reviews I may wait till it comes out on FIOS On-Demand and rent it. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 12:27:38 PM EST
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This thread needs more Dr Quinzel.
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Posted: 1/20/2016 12:33:20 PM EST
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Interesting. But worst looking joker ever. This seems to make sense: 
They are not making the same Joker over and over again, because that would be a slap in the face to the great actors that have played that role. If they did, viewers would pretty much just dismiss whatever Jokers they thought didn't nail the role as much as their favorite, and it would detract from the movies. Thus, different Jokers. I, for one, think Jared Leto is a fantastic actor, and he will do a great job in this role. I can't wait to see it. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 12:35:45 PM EST
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I'm very much looking forward to it, especially since Batman will be involved.
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Posted: 1/20/2016 12:36:07 PM EST
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I liked the first Suicide Squad trailer much better than this one. It maybe the Queen song! It did not fit! This movie feels very campy to me right now, unlike Captain America : Civil War. That movie looks bad ass in the trailer.
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Posted: 1/20/2016 12:44:14 PM EST
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This seems to make sense: http://orig09.deviantart.net/b6b3/f/2015/153/9/f/types_of_jokers_by_ajabelgas-d8vq5tm.png They are not making the same Joker over and over again, because that would be a slap in the face to the great actors that have played that role. If they did, viewers would pretty much just dismiss whatever Jokers they thought didn't nail the role as much as their favorite, and it would detract from the movies. Thus, different Jokers. I, for one, think Jared Leto is a fantastic actor, and he will do a great job in this role. I can't wait to see it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Interesting. But worst looking joker ever. This seems to make sense: http://orig09.deviantart.net/b6b3/f/2015/153/9/f/types_of_jokers_by_ajabelgas-d8vq5tm.png They are not making the same Joker over and over again, because that would be a slap in the face to the great actors that have played that role. If they did, viewers would pretty much just dismiss whatever Jokers they thought didn't nail the role as much as their favorite, and it would detract from the movies. Thus, different Jokers. I, for one, think Jared Leto is a fantastic actor, and he will do a great job in this role. I can't wait to see it. Perfect. Also, there was the "clown" version of Joker with Cesar Romero in the old TV show. All versions of the character were quite different. 
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Posted: 1/20/2016 1:06:25 PM EST
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Quote HistoryYou're right. 
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Posted: 1/20/2016 1:11:43 PM EST
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You're right. http://fashionablygeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/harleytara-copy.jpg The original Harley Quinn is still the best Harley Quinn. Quote HistoryQuoted:
You're right. http://fashionablygeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/harleytara-copy.jpg The original Harley Quinn is still the best Harley Quinn. Still, Margot Robbie is pretty easy on the eyes... 
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Posted: 1/20/2016 1:36:54 PM EST
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Still, Margot Robbie is pretty easy on the eyes... http://static1.squarespace.com/static/5522a51be4b034f30e89de22/5547c461e4b03ed3128f086f/5547c462e4b07a4d41602273/1430766752057/Margot-5.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You're right. http://fashionablygeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/harleytara-copy.jpg The original Harley Quinn is still the best Harley Quinn. Still, Margot Robbie is pretty easy on the eyes... http://static1.squarespace.com/static/5522a51be4b034f30e89de22/5547c461e4b03ed3128f086f/5547c462e4b07a4d41602273/1430766752057/Margot-5.jpg No doubt. But I definitely have a thing for Tara Strong. 
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Posted: 1/20/2016 1:46:27 PM EST
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This seems to make sense: http://orig09.deviantart.net/b6b3/f/2015/153/9/f/types_of_jokers_by_ajabelgas-d8vq5tm.png They are not making the same Joker over and over again, because that would be a slap in the face to the great actors that have played that role. If they did, viewers would pretty much just dismiss whatever Jokers they thought didn't nail the role as much as their favorite, and it would detract from the movies. Thus, different Jokers. I, for one, think Jared Leto is a fantastic actor, and he will do a great job in this role. I can't wait to see it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Interesting. But worst looking joker ever. This seems to make sense: http://orig09.deviantart.net/b6b3/f/2015/153/9/f/types_of_jokers_by_ajabelgas-d8vq5tm.png They are not making the same Joker over and over again, because that would be a slap in the face to the great actors that have played that role. If they did, viewers would pretty much just dismiss whatever Jokers they thought didn't nail the role as much as their favorite, and it would detract from the movies. Thus, different Jokers. I, for one, think Jared Leto is a fantastic actor, and he will do a great job in this role. I can't wait to see it. That is one of things I like as well. The Joker as a whole is a complex character an I feel they are parsing out bits and pieces to different actors. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 1:56:17 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Oh hell naw  Quote HistoryQuoted: Will Smith ... Floyd Lawton / Deadshot Oh hell naw It's like someone told he did good in Hancock or something. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 2:21:49 PM EST
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Lucky for me I have $4 cinema nearby
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Posted: 1/20/2016 2:46:59 PM EST
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You're right. http://fashionablygeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/harleytara-copy.jpg The original Harley Quinn is still the best Harley Quinn. Quote HistoryQuoted:
You're right. http://fashionablygeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/harleytara-copy.jpg The original Harley Quinn is still the best Harley Quinn. Oh, and THIS is the original. 
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Posted: 1/20/2016 2:51:37 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Interesting. But worst looking joker ever. No, just different. I can't think of a single bad joker actor. Because joker is constantly being re-imagineed, re-invented. Jack was fucking awesome as his version of Joker. Heath was great as his joker. The dude on Adam West Batman show was great. I think this new Joker will be no exception. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 6:26:29 PM EST
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Oh, and THIS is the original. http://static1.squarespace.com/static/5116d7aae4b085e20f7e3d3a/t/53f7a33fe4b097b8f58453dd/1408738112045/ Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You're right. http://fashionablygeek.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/harleytara-copy.jpg The original Harley Quinn is still the best Harley Quinn. Oh, and THIS is the original. http://static1.squarespace.com/static/5116d7aae4b085e20f7e3d3a/t/53f7a33fe4b097b8f58453dd/1408738112045/ Yeah, Tara Strong is the voice in that series. Well...one of them, there was also Arleen Sorkin but she sucks. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 6:36:47 PM EST
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Posted: 1/20/2016 6:41:06 PM EST
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I'll rate this as "If I'm bored and it's on Netflix" movie.
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Posted: 1/20/2016 6:44:34 PM EST
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While it only looks "okay" IMO, I think it looks better than "Superman v Batman". Leto has a hard row to hoe as the Joker. Looks kinda dumb, but I'll give him a chance. Very true. Ledger set the standard for the joker... batman vs Superman looks lame.. On a side note, DC has established universes with the arrow and flash tv shows. I wish they would use the actors from them for the upcoming justice League movie and big screen arrow and flash movies... |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 6:51:49 PM EST
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It's gotten great early reviews. You have to remember, this is Ryan Reynold's pet project. He had to fight for it tooth and nail with Fox. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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meh Agreed. Doesn't look all that good to me. I won't be going to the movies to see it Plan to see the Superman/Batman movie. Not sure about DeadPool. I have a feeling all the best parts have been shown in the trailers I'm all but certain that Deadpool will suck big time. . It's gotten great early reviews. You have to remember, this is Ryan Reynold's pet project. He had to fight for it tooth and nail with Fox. Didn't he play Deadpool already? |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 6:53:34 PM EST
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meh Agreed. Doesn't look all that good to me. I won't be going to the movies to see it Plan to see the Superman/Batman movie. Not sure about DeadPool. I have a feeling all the best parts have been shown in the trailers I'm all but certain that Deadpool will suck big time. . It's gotten great early reviews. You have to remember, this is Ryan Reynold's pet project. He had to fight for it tooth and nail with Fox. Didn't he play Deadpool already? Yes, and the version he played was retarded. He's now playing the true version. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 6:57:20 PM EST
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No, just different. I can't think of a single bad joker actor. Because joker is constantly being re-imagineed, re-invented. Jack was fucking awesome as his version of Joker. Heath was great as his joker. The dude on Adam West Batman show was great. I think this new Joker will be no exception. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Interesting. But worst looking joker ever. No, just different. I can't think of a single bad joker actor. Because joker is constantly being re-imagineed, re-invented. Jack was fucking awesome as his version of Joker. Heath was great as his joker. The dude on Adam West Batman show was great. I think this new Joker will be no exception. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 6:59:30 PM EST
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looks fun--i'll keep my expectations low and catch it in the theater.
margot robbie has nothing to do with this decisions. whatsoever. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 7:08:43 PM EST
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Judean People's Front Crack Suicide Squad
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Posted: 1/20/2016 7:09:57 PM EST
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There's a different trailer here:
https://www.yahoo.com/movies/v/suicide-squad-comic-con-footage-212710111.html |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 7:13:11 PM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: You can't tell that's what the haters hate about this new Joker? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Interesting. But worst looking joker ever. No, just different. I can't think of a single bad joker actor. Because joker is constantly being re-imagineed, re-invented. Jack was fucking awesome as his version of Joker. Heath was great as his joker. The dude on Adam West Batman show was great. I think this new Joker will be no exception. What's wrong with this joker? There are comic books of him murdering a pre-teen girl. Joker has many different spins on his character, humor and all that. People act like this new Joker is the equivilant of changing the Coca-Cola recipe or something.  Go look at every major Joker played by a different actor. They're ALL different and distinct from each other. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 7:20:07 PM EST
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There's a different trailer here: https://www.yahoo.com/movies/v/suicide-squad-comic-con-footage-212710111.html That's an older trailer. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 7:22:37 PM EST
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Might be something to watch
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Posted: 1/20/2016 7:27:36 PM EST
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Oh hell naw
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Posted: 1/20/2016 7:30:08 PM EST
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Harley looks fucking hot as hell.
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Posted: 1/20/2016 7:30:10 PM EST
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I smell an Oscar for Will Smiff. It's time.
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Posted: 1/20/2016 7:49:33 PM EST
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Posted: 1/20/2016 7:55:30 PM EST
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I don't know, nor care, about DC Comics mythology. That trailer is awesome. I pulled it up on my TV, fired up the stereo, and let it rip. The Queen soundtrack certainly helped but, damn, that looks like an awfully fun film. I can't wait. Do they give awards for trailers?
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Posted: 1/20/2016 7:55:54 PM EST
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Posted: 1/20/2016 7:57:18 PM EST
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OK, I know there was a thread for this movie but it probably got archived. Anyway, the first few trailers for this movie have SUCKED. There's a new trailer out and it actually looks good.  http://youtu.be/v3OZ0eOTLTU
I still dislike what they've done to Deadshot, Harley Quinn and I hate Letto as The Joker but I admit, after seeing this trailer I'm actually kind of excited for the movie; maybe it's because of Harley Quinn's ass..... Thoughts? I'd still do Margot Robbie |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 8:00:29 PM EST
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This seems to make sense: http://orig09.deviantart.net/b6b3/f/2015/153/9/f/types_of_jokers_by_ajabelgas-d8vq5tm.png They are not making the same Joker over and over again, because that would be a slap in the face to the great actors that have played that role. If they did, viewers would pretty much just dismiss whatever Jokers they thought didn't nail the role as much as their favorite, and it would detract from the movies. Thus, different Jokers. I, for one, think Jared Leto is a fantastic actor, and he will do a great job in this role. I can't wait to see it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Interesting. But worst looking joker ever. This seems to make sense: http://orig09.deviantart.net/b6b3/f/2015/153/9/f/types_of_jokers_by_ajabelgas-d8vq5tm.png They are not making the same Joker over and over again, because that would be a slap in the face to the great actors that have played that role. If they did, viewers would pretty much just dismiss whatever Jokers they thought didn't nail the role as much as their favorite, and it would detract from the movies. Thus, different Jokers. I, for one, think Jared Leto is a fantastic actor, and he will do a great job in this role. I can't wait to see it. I've heard very good theories on why this Joker looks the way he does. I hope they are true because it would be a painful twist most won't see coming and it will tie in nicely with the Batman vs Superman movie. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 8:01:09 PM EST
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Looks Redbox good. But not movie theater good. Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile This. I will probably fork out 6 bucks for on demand through cable. Not going to a theatre though. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 10:11:41 PM EST
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meh Agreed. Doesn't look all that good to me. I won't be going to the movies to see it Plan to see the Superman/Batman movie. Not sure about DeadPool. I have a feeling all the best parts have been shown in the trailers I'm all but certain that Deadpool will suck big time. . It's gotten great early reviews. You have to remember, this is Ryan Reynold's pet project. He had to fight for it tooth and nail with Fox. Didn't he play Deadpool already? And he hated what they did with the character in that movie, which was why he fought to play the character as written in the comic books. |
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Posted: 1/20/2016 10:15:53 PM EST
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And he hated what they did with the character in that movie, which was why he fought to play the character as written in the comic books. He even references that in one of the teasers, IIRC: "From the studio that inexplicably sewed his fucking mouth shut the first time..." 
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Posted: 1/20/2016 10:40:39 PM EST
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I liked the Nolan Batman movies. Heck I even liked the two Burton Batman movies. I agree that "dark" can work, but "dark" requires a more deft touch and actors who can do "dark" and not have it come off as campy or corny, which is what Suicide Squad and Batman vs Superman feel like to me. I think another aspect is the notion of "over the top". Both Suicide Squad and Bat vs Soup just scream "overdone ham" to me. The Nolan Batman movies were all fairly grounded, and that grounding really serves their dark tones. But when you try to do "dark" alongside "over the top" you wind up sacrificing something. Edit: I think I've nailed it down. Suicide Squad feels like the campy neon Schumacher "Batman Forever" and Bat vs Soup feels like the clunky, trying too hard "Batman and Robin". Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dark can work. Take the 3 Batmans. They were dark and good. It just takes a good script and actors to pull it off. I liked the Nolan Batman movies. Heck I even liked the two Burton Batman movies. I agree that "dark" can work, but "dark" requires a more deft touch and actors who can do "dark" and not have it come off as campy or corny, which is what Suicide Squad and Batman vs Superman feel like to me. I think another aspect is the notion of "over the top". Both Suicide Squad and Bat vs Soup just scream "overdone ham" to me. The Nolan Batman movies were all fairly grounded, and that grounding really serves their dark tones. But when you try to do "dark" alongside "over the top" you wind up sacrificing something. Edit: I think I've nailed it down. Suicide Squad feels like the campy neon Schumacher "Batman Forever" and Bat vs Soup feels like the clunky, trying too hard "Batman and Robin". David Ayer wrote and directed Fury, wrote Training Day and several other dark cop dramas. Guy has talent, and I trust he knows what he's doing. eta- I'll be shocked and disappointed if it's anything approaching campy. I'd bet dollars to donuts it's a better movie than Syder's Dawn of Justice. |
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Posted: 1/21/2016 5:10:01 AM EST
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Posted: 1/21/2016 5:37:54 AM EST
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David Ayer sure likes his cholo/L.A. gang culture, with all that shitty prison ink he likes to put on all his characters.
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Posted: 1/21/2016 5:43:27 AM EST
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Harley looks fucking hot as hell. |
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Posted: 1/21/2016 7:04:58 AM EST
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David Ayer wrote and directed Fury, wrote Training Day and several other dark cop dramas. Guy has talent, and I trust he knows what he's doing. eta- I'll be shocked and disappointed if it's anything approaching campy. I'd bet dollars to donuts it's a better movie than Syder's Dawn of Justice. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Dark can work. Take the 3 Batmans. They were dark and good. It just takes a good script and actors to pull it off. I liked the Nolan Batman movies. Heck I even liked the two Burton Batman movies. I agree that "dark" can work, but "dark" requires a more deft touch and actors who can do "dark" and not have it come off as campy or corny, which is what Suicide Squad and Batman vs Superman feel like to me. I think another aspect is the notion of "over the top". Both Suicide Squad and Bat vs Soup just scream "overdone ham" to me. The Nolan Batman movies were all fairly grounded, and that grounding really serves their dark tones. But when you try to do "dark" alongside "over the top" you wind up sacrificing something. Edit: I think I've nailed it down. Suicide Squad feels like the campy neon Schumacher "Batman Forever" and Bat vs Soup feels like the clunky, trying too hard "Batman and Robin". David Ayer wrote and directed Fury, wrote Training Day and several other dark cop dramas. Guy has talent, and I trust he knows what he's doing. eta- I'll be shocked and disappointed if it's anything approaching campy. I'd bet dollars to donuts it's a better movie than Syder's Dawn of Justice. Dawn of Justice looks like utter crap. I'm going to go see it, but it looks terrible. |
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Posted: 1/21/2016 7:18:39 AM EST
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Posted: 1/21/2016 7:24:47 AM EST
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I've heard very good theories on why this Joker looks the way he does. I hope they are true because it would be a painful twist most won't see coming and it will tie in nicely with the Batman vs Superman movie. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Interesting. But worst looking joker ever. This seems to make sense: http://orig09.deviantart.net/b6b3/f/2015/153/9/f/types_of_jokers_by_ajabelgas-d8vq5tm.png They are not making the same Joker over and over again, because that would be a slap in the face to the great actors that have played that role. If they did, viewers would pretty much just dismiss whatever Jokers they thought didn't nail the role as much as their favorite, and it would detract from the movies. Thus, different Jokers. I, for one, think Jared Leto is a fantastic actor, and he will do a great job in this role. I can't wait to see it. I've heard very good theories on why this Joker looks the way he does. I hope they are true because it would be a painful twist most won't see coming and it will tie in nicely with the Batman vs Superman movie. Mind sharing some of those theories? |
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Posted: 1/21/2016 7:26:56 AM EST
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Since the "gun culture" is so painful for will smith, he must be in total agony... till that payday.
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Posted: 1/21/2016 8:12:36 AM EST
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David Ayer sure likes his cholo/L.A. gang culture, with all that shitty prison ink he likes to put on all his characters. He is a white guy who grew up in the LA ghetto IIRC. That seems to have influenced him a lot. |
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