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Posted: 2/17/2016 10:28:49 AM EDT
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Do the model / hobby companies now provide CAD or print files to replicate small model parts? How does that work?
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Posted: 2/17/2016 10:41:37 AM EDT
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Do the model / hobby companies now provide CAD or print files to replicate small model parts? How does that work? I have this exact printer as a desk toy at work. it's a lot of fun. Only an 80mm x 3 print area though. And it only prints with PLA. It can't do nylon or ABS. The model companies don't provide anything in terms of print files, but you can design your own, whatever you want in a few different simple 3D drawing/CAD programs, and you can download tons of part files from various discussion boards devoted to hobbies. Quadcopters/Drones and RC aircraft seem to be the best represented with parts to print so far. Or you can get files for all sorts of things besides hobby/model parts at big collection sites like thingiverse.com |
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Posted: 2/17/2016 10:45:42 AM EDT
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I have this exact printer as a desk toy at work. it's a lot of fun. Only an 80mm x 3 print area though. And it only prints with PLA. It can't do nylon or ABS. The model companies don't provide anything in terms of print files, but you can design your own, whatever you want in a few different simple 3D drawing/CAD programs, and you can download tons of part files from various discussion boards devoted to hobbies. Quadcopters/Drones and RC aircraft seem to be the best represented with parts to print so far. Or you can get files for all sorts of things besides hobby/model parts at big collection sites like thingiverse.com Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do the model / hobby companies now provide CAD or print files to replicate small model parts? How does that work? I have this exact printer as a desk toy at work. it's a lot of fun. Only an 80mm x 3 print area though. And it only prints with PLA. It can't do nylon or ABS. The model companies don't provide anything in terms of print files, but you can design your own, whatever you want in a few different simple 3D drawing/CAD programs, and you can download tons of part files from various discussion boards devoted to hobbies. Quadcopters/Drones and RC aircraft seem to be the best represented with parts to print so far. Or you can get files for all sorts of things besides hobby/model parts at big collection sites like thingiverse.com Cool, thanks. I have a hard time justifying a 3D printer, but when the weather gets better, I plan to start flying planes again. That would be very handy. |
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Posted: 2/17/2016 10:56:08 AM EDT
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Just keep in mind that PLA is very hard and brittle. It's benefit is that it prints "cleaner" than ABS does, so it's better for artistic things where you want detail. But ABS is going to be stronger.
If you want actual parts to hold up to being used in an RC aircraft, you'll have to get a printer that does ABS and has a heated print bed to make the first ABS layer stick. PLA will stick to a layer of paper or masking tape so it doesn't need that extra step. Here's a video of my Fabrikator Mini making some knock-off Lego bricks. 
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Posted: 2/17/2016 10:56:19 AM EDT
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I have this exact printer as a desk toy at work. it's a lot of fun. Only an 80mm x 3 print area though. And it only prints with PLA. It can't do nylon or ABS. The model companies don't provide anything in terms of print files, but you can design your own, whatever you want in a few different simple 3D drawing/CAD programs, and you can download tons of part files from various discussion boards devoted to hobbies. Quadcopters/Drones and RC aircraft seem to be the best represented with parts to print so far. Or you can get files for all sorts of things besides hobby/model parts at big collection sites like thingiverse.com Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do the model / hobby companies now provide CAD or print files to replicate small model parts? How does that work? I have this exact printer as a desk toy at work. it's a lot of fun. Only an 80mm x 3 print area though. And it only prints with PLA. It can't do nylon or ABS. The model companies don't provide anything in terms of print files, but you can design your own, whatever you want in a few different simple 3D drawing/CAD programs, and you can download tons of part files from various discussion boards devoted to hobbies. Quadcopters/Drones and RC aircraft seem to be the best represented with parts to print so far. Or you can get files for all sorts of things besides hobby/model parts at big collection sites like thingiverse.com Can it print wax? How fine can it print?: (in not sure on terminology) I'm thinking of doing some lost wax casting for small parts. |
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Posted: 2/17/2016 12:34:25 PM EDT
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You can get a much better Prusa setup now for ~200 bucks, instead of that small POS.
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Posted: 2/17/2016 12:37:56 PM EDT
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Can it print wax? How fine can it print?: (in not sure on terminology) I'm thinking of doing some lost wax casting for small parts. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Do the model / hobby companies now provide CAD or print files to replicate small model parts? How does that work? I have this exact printer as a desk toy at work. it's a lot of fun. Only an 80mm x 3 print area though. And it only prints with PLA. It can't do nylon or ABS. The model companies don't provide anything in terms of print files, but you can design your own, whatever you want in a few different simple 3D drawing/CAD programs, and you can download tons of part files from various discussion boards devoted to hobbies. Quadcopters/Drones and RC aircraft seem to be the best represented with parts to print so far. Or you can get files for all sorts of things besides hobby/model parts at big collection sites like thingiverse.com Can it print wax? How fine can it print?: (in not sure on terminology) I'm thinking of doing some lost wax casting for small parts. No. I'm not aware of any hobbiest wax printers. I have heard of someone trying to develop a wax like filament for those purposes. No clue how close or if/when it will hit market. I'm betting the price wouldn't make it worth it. You can do "lost plastic" casting. Many folks have. |
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Posted: 2/17/2016 3:21:50 PM EDT
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You can get a much better Prusa setup now for ~200 bucks, instead of that small POS. I'm looking at Prusa's site, and see only their $599 and $859 printer. http://shop.prusa3d.com/en/#_ga=1.192462691.837020660.1455736473 If you've got links to others, something that's ~$200, I'd love to find that. And yeah, I'll re-state the Fabirkator Mini is really a "toy", and that's how I use it. I make PLA knick-knacks on it to entertain my co-workers. But it's a good low-cost easy startup to learn the basics of 3D printing on. And a good way to print off Minecraft figurines and other junk your kids will ask for, while your other "real" printer is busy. 
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Posted: 2/17/2016 3:26:11 PM EDT
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Can it print wax? How fine can it print?: (in not sure on terminology) I'm thinking of doing some lost wax casting for small parts. Besides the "lost plastic" where you just burn out the plastic with the molten metal, you could make a silicone mold of the 3D printed plastic object, and then use that to cast in wax then use that in lost-wax metal casting. It's one extra step, sure, but the ability to make anything you can CAD up on the computer makes up for it, if you don't have a lot of skill at carving things. A good printer can deposit layers in as little as .05mm each, or do up to a "coarse" .25mm or 1/4 mm per layer. If you don't like the fine ridges on even a high quality print, you can smooth or slightly melt the plastic with acetone, or sand it, whatever, before you make more molds of it. |
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Posted: 2/17/2016 3:35:48 PM EDT
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I'm looking at Prusa's site, and see only their $599 and $859 printer. http://shop.prusa3d.com/en/#_ga=1.192462691.837020660.1455736473 If you've got links to others, something that's ~$200, I'd love to find that. And yeah, I'll re-state the Fabirkator Mini is really a "toy", and that's how I use it. I make PLA knick-knacks on it to entertain my co-workers. But it's a good low-cost easy startup to learn the basics of 3D printing on. And a good way to print off Minecraft figurines and other junk your kids will ask for, while your other "real" printer is busy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can get a much better Prusa setup now for ~200 bucks, instead of that small POS. I'm looking at Prusa's site, and see only their $599 and $859 printer. http://shop.prusa3d.com/en/#_ga=1.192462691.837020660.1455736473 If you've got links to others, something that's ~$200, I'd love to find that. And yeah, I'll re-state the Fabirkator Mini is really a "toy", and that's how I use it. I make PLA knick-knacks on it to entertain my co-workers. But it's a good low-cost easy startup to learn the basics of 3D printing on. And a good way to print off Minecraft figurines and other junk your kids will ask for, while your other "real" printer is busy. I'd be interested in other options in this price range as well. |
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Posted: 2/17/2016 3:42:21 PM EDT
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What kind of tolerances can 3d printers hold?
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Posted: 2/17/2016 4:11:44 PM EDT
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Too small a table area for almost anything I'd want to do. Double that is better, but still rather small. Things like that are fun to play with, but unless you're planning on only making small parts it's a waste of money.
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Posted: 2/17/2016 4:52:39 PM EDT
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Add me to that list!
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Posted: 2/17/2016 5:59:37 PM EDT
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I'm looking at Prusa's site, and see only their $599 and $859 printer. http://shop.prusa3d.com/en/#_ga=1.192462691.837020660.1455736473 If you've got links to others, something that's ~$200, I'd love to find that. And yeah, I'll re-state the Fabirkator Mini is really a "toy", and that's how I use it. I make PLA knick-knacks on it to entertain my co-workers. But it's a good low-cost easy startup to learn the basics of 3D printing on. And a good way to print off Minecraft figurines and other junk your kids will ask for, while your other "real" printer is busy. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You can get a much better Prusa setup now for ~200 bucks, instead of that small POS. I'm looking at Prusa's site, and see only their $599 and $859 printer. http://shop.prusa3d.com/en/#_ga=1.192462691.837020660.1455736473 If you've got links to others, something that's ~$200, I'd love to find that. And yeah, I'll re-state the Fabirkator Mini is really a "toy", and that's how I use it. I make PLA knick-knacks on it to entertain my co-workers. But it's a good low-cost easy startup to learn the basics of 3D printing on. And a good way to print off Minecraft figurines and other junk your kids will ask for, while your other "real" printer is busy. Prusa is a style, not a brand. That website just happens to use the name "Prusa 3d." Many budget places out there that have Prusas in the ~200 range. 3dprinterstoreonline often has sales and right now has multiple Prusas in that range. |
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Posted: 2/17/2016 6:11:58 PM EDT
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What kind of tolerances can 3d printers hold? What kind of MOA can a gun shoot? 
Very broad question there. It differs in each axis. Two axis will essentially be limited by the nozzle size and slicing program, 1 will essentially be limited by material. Painting with a VERY broad brush here, you can easily get 1 mil resolution on the Z axis. X & Y is dependent on the design, and extrusion pattern. However, you can think of it as having a ~ 15 mil bit on a CNC. You can get extrusion nozzles smaller than that, but 0.4 mm is fairly standard. |
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Posted: 2/17/2016 8:00:52 PM EDT
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Oh geebus, you fukkers are going to make spend money
I dont really know anything about these gizmos, but this one looks interesting https://www.3dprintersonlinestore.com/slimbot-3d-printer-kit Thinking just the basic setup to play around with, unless some of the options are must haves. What hive sayeth 
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Posted: 2/17/2016 8:04:22 PM EDT
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Mattel announces $300 3D printer for children, including design software and toy library from Autodesk: Link
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Posted: 2/17/2016 9:41:58 PM EDT
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Oh geebus, you fukkers are going to make spend money
I dont really know anything about these gizmos, but this one looks interesting https://www.3dprintersonlinestore.com/slimbot-3d-printer-kit Thinking just the basic setup to play around with, unless some of the options are must haves. What hive sayeth One center stabilizing beam - that thing is going to have BAD vibrations. aka crap quality prints unless your movements are very slow in the print. |
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Posted: 2/17/2016 9:47:46 PM EDT
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Mattel announces $300 3D printer for children, including design software and toy library from Autodesk: Link I have enough children already.
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Posted: 2/18/2016 1:45:02 AM EDT
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One center stabilizing beam - that thing is going to have BAD vibrations. aka crap quality prints unless your movements are very slow in the print. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Oh geebus, you fukkers are going to make spend money
I dont really know anything about these gizmos, but this one looks interesting https://www.3dprintersonlinestore.com/slimbot-3d-printer-kit Thinking just the basic setup to play around with, unless some of the options are must haves. What hive sayeth One center stabilizing beam - that thing is going to have BAD vibrations. aka crap quality prints unless your movements are very slow in the print. What's your opinion of the $600 on down delta-arm printers they have? I'd prefer one that uses Repetier Host and Cura if possible, and nylon, metal-fill fillament capable. https://www.3dprintersonlinestore.com/product/delta/he-3d-mega-delta-3d-printer-kit |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 2:07:51 AM EDT
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What's your opinion of the $600 on down delta-arm printers they have? I'd prefer one that uses Repetier Host and Cura if possible, and nylon, metal-fill fillament capable. https://www.3dprintersonlinestore.com/product/delta/he-3d-mega-delta-3d-printer-kit Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Oh geebus, you fukkers are going to make spend money
I dont really know anything about these gizmos, but this one looks interesting https://www.3dprintersonlinestore.com/slimbot-3d-printer-kit Thinking just the basic setup to play around with, unless some of the options are must haves. What hive sayeth One center stabilizing beam - that thing is going to have BAD vibrations. aka crap quality prints unless your movements are very slow in the print. What's your opinion of the $600 on down delta-arm printers they have? I'd prefer one that uses Repetier Host and Cura if possible, and nylon, metal-fill fillament capable. https://www.3dprintersonlinestore.com/product/delta/he-3d-mega-delta-3d-printer-kit I cant comment on Deltas, never used one. Personally I wouldn't want to do polar coordinate conversions when trying to calibrate my stepper motors. Much easier to do that in XYZ coordinate frames. There might be someone on this site that has a delta, maybe they can comment on that experience. You can use just about anything with Repetier Host. Actually, aside from professional 6 digit cost printers, I dont know what cant be used with Repetier. As for the various filament types, the all metal hot ends can typically handle them all. The PTFE lined ones are more limited in what they can use, due to temp limits. I'm all about Slicr for slicing. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 8:25:54 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm looking at Prusa's site, and see only their $599 and $859 printer. http://shop.prusa3d.com/en/#_ga=1.192462691.837020660.1455736473 If you've got links to others, something that's ~$200, I'd love to find that. And yeah, I'll re-state the Fabirkator Mini is really a "toy", and that's how I use it. I make PLA knick-knacks on it to entertain my co-workers. But it's a good low-cost easy startup to learn the basics of 3D printing on. And a good way to print off Minecraft figurines and other junk your kids will ask for, while your other "real" printer is busy. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: You can get a much better Prusa setup now for ~200 bucks, instead of that small POS. I'm looking at Prusa's site, and see only their $599 and $859 printer. http://shop.prusa3d.com/en/#_ga=1.192462691.837020660.1455736473 If you've got links to others, something that's ~$200, I'd love to find that. And yeah, I'll re-state the Fabirkator Mini is really a "toy", and that's how I use it. I make PLA knick-knacks on it to entertain my co-workers. But it's a good low-cost easy startup to learn the basics of 3D printing on. And a good way to print off Minecraft figurines and other junk your kids will ask for, while your other "real" printer is busy. Those are the same printer I think. The $599 one is a kit you have to build while the $859 one is already built and tested. I was looking at these the other day and am almost sold but still doing research. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 8:41:03 AM EDT
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Posted: 2/18/2016 10:31:48 PM EDT
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My kung fu wasn't powerful enough, one of these is on the way thanks to you bastards
https://www.3dprintersonlinestore.com/slimbot-3d-printer-kit Hopefully decent enough to goof around with until I figure out wtf is going on and upgrade from there. |
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Posted: 2/18/2016 10:49:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My kung fu wasn't powerful enough, one of these is on the way thanks to you bastards https://www.3dprintersonlinestore.com/slimbot-3d-printer-kit Hopefully decent enough to goof around with until I figure out wtf is going on and upgrade from there. You got a place to plug that in? Nevermind. Saw it comes with the power supply based on customer location. |
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Posted: 2/19/2016 3:40:55 AM EDT
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I saw thought the same thing at first. I think a 20% overclock is the manly thing to do and allows you to turn it up to 11 
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Posted: 3/9/2016 2:28:43 PM EDT
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I am looking for a recommendation for a 3d printer to be used by teenagers for science projects and competition (robotic). So I need the ability for multiple filament including ABS and the flexible stuff. What the teenagers cannot produce can be sent out, but that takes too long and affects the ability of the team to turnaround improvements.
This is garage type work for robot competition that is different from battle bots most of us know. The competitions are organized in the middle school and high school classes with some open classes. I was looking Prusa i3 kits, but saw the the recommendation above for the Electron 3D Simbot. I have no idea about what the options mean for the Electron 3D Simbot (auto leveling... sounds good, pro print head... sounds like must have for our needs, etc.) We have a competing team just four garage doors down in the neighborhood, but hey, trade secrets apparently get in the way. So, Prusa or Electron? I like the Electron price better, but worried as to which one is more accurate with movement. |
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Posted: 3/9/2016 2:41:29 PM EDT
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