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Posted: 4/7/2016 9:30:48 AM EDT
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Should be sued. Proselytize on your own time, do your job.
ETA: The agency deserves the suit because they should have fired him the first time. It's not something that one needs to be "trained" on. They gave him the opportunity to do it more than once. |
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Posted: 4/7/2016 9:32:08 AM EDT
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Never give warnings.
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Posted: 4/7/2016 9:32:54 AM EDT
[#3]
Sue him and prison time.
Just fucking kidding. A stern warning for him not to do that again would be good. Fuck a lawsuit. |
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Posted: 4/7/2016 9:33:18 AM EDT
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Should be sued. Proselytize on your own time, do your job. Yup. I'm sure the ARFCOM Bible Brigade will be along shortly to tell us all the reasons why this was OK, but if you're in uniform and acting in an official capacity as an agent of the state ... you have an Establishment Clause problem if you're advocating your religion. |
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Posted: 4/7/2016 9:34:40 AM EDT
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Just fucking kidding. A stern warning for him not to do that again would be good. Fuck a lawsuit. Did you read the article? They already did that, it didn't work. But Hamilton was sued in September of 2014 in a similar case, which was settled. Court papers indicate he was told then not to be witnessing on traffic stops. |
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Posted: 4/7/2016 9:34:41 AM EDT
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Never give warnings. Always ends in a complaint. Same as writing a red light ticket, always goes to court. Want a complaint? Write improper use of passing lane. Straight to IA on those. |
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Posted: 4/7/2016 9:34:44 AM EDT
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Execution. That's what ISIS does.
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Posted: 4/7/2016 9:35:06 AM EDT
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Did you read the article? They already did that, it didn't work. But Hamilton was sued in September of 2014 in a similar case, which was settled. Court papers indicate he was told then not to be witnessing on traffic stops. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Just fucking kidding. A stern warning for him not to do that again would be good. Fuck a lawsuit. Did you read the article? They already did that, it didn't work. But Hamilton was sued in September of 2014 in a similar case, which was settled. Court papers indicate he was told then not to be witnessing on traffic stops. I don't have time to read 
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Posted: 4/7/2016 9:38:17 AM EDT
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Always ends in a complaint. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Never give warnings. Always ends in a complaint. Who are the retards filing those complaints? I've gotten warnings before - at least one of them was a pretty chickenshit stop (but technically a good one), and was happy to drive away without a court date. |
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Posted: 4/7/2016 9:40:56 AM EDT
[#10]
Preach your flavor of bullshit on your own time and on your own dime.
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Posted: 4/7/2016 9:41:00 AM EDT
[#11]
You poor, oppressed Christians.
Nothing says love thy neighbor like pushing religion under color of law. Probably trying to get laid. |
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Posted: 4/7/2016 9:43:05 AM EDT
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You poor, oppressed Christians. Nothing says love thy neighbor like pushing religion under color of law. Probably trying to get laid. 
Oh man we are so persecuted for not being able to force our beliefs on other people that dont want them. |
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Posted: 4/7/2016 9:57:21 AM EDT
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So for a second offense for this kind of thing would will be done
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Posted: 4/7/2016 10:03:37 AM EDT
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Should be sued. Proselytize on your own time, do your job. ETA: The agency deserves the suit because they should have fired him the first time. It's not something that one needs to be "trained" on. They gave him the opportunity to do it more than once. |
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Posted: 4/7/2016 10:06:20 AM EDT
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Always ends in a complaint. Same as writing a red light ticket, always goes to court. Want a complaint? Write improper use of passing lane. Straight to IA on those. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Never give warnings. Always ends in a complaint. Same as writing a red light ticket, always goes to court. Want a complaint? Write improper use of passing lane. Straight to IA on those. That's not true I had a State trooper give me a warning for going 90 in a 55 And I didn't complain one bit in fact I got out of my car and walked back to him to thank him and shook his hand |
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Posted: 4/7/2016 10:07:49 AM EDT
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Preach your flavor of bullshit on your own time and on your own dime. Should apply to admonishments as well. I don't give a shit what you think of my driving habits or that you don't want to have to see another bloody corpse halfway through a windshield. I'm a grown man, just give me the ticket or warning and let's both be on our way. |
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Posted: 4/7/2016 10:11:00 AM EDT
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Should apply to admonishments as well. I don't give a shit what you think of my driving habits or that you don't want to have to see another bloody corpse halfway through a windshield. I'm a grown man, just give me the ticket or warning and let's both be on our way. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Preach your flavor of bullshit on your own time and on your own dime. Should apply to admonishments as well. I don't give a shit what you think of my driving habits or that you don't want to have to see another bloody corpse halfway through a windshield. I'm a grown man, just give me the ticket or warning and let's both be on our way. I used to tell one of my partners that constantly but he never listened. Skip the lecture and just write the ticket. |
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Posted: 4/7/2016 5:37:38 PM EDT
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People actually file complaints about warnings? I've gotten a few warnings over the years, and each time I totally deserved that ticket. So when I got a warning instead, I just said "thank you." |
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Posted: 4/7/2016 5:39:40 PM EDT
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Come to my church > Let me find a ass backwards way to hook up with you
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Posted: 4/7/2016 5:40:25 PM EDT
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http://fox59.com/2016/04/06/indiana-state-police-trooper-sued-again-for-preaching-faith-during-traffic-stop/ The lawsuit alleges Trooper Brian Hamilton of the ISP Pendleton post pulled the woman over for speeding and gave her a warning. He then asked her what church she went to and if she was saved. Documents said Hamilton invited Pyle to his church and even gave directions. Trolling for pussy. |
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Posted: 4/7/2016 5:49:22 PM EDT
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Need pictures of "victim" to determine guilt of course.
WTF complains about getting a warning? "Yes sir, no sir, thank you sir" Sit there and take the lecture! Likewise, if you're writing up a ticket STFU and hand it over - lectures are only accepted with warnings 
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Posted: 4/7/2016 5:50:15 PM EDT
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His employment with ISP has been terminated.
http://wishtv.com/2016/04/07/isp-trooper-fired-for-preaching-during-stops/ |
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Posted: 4/7/2016 5:51:36 PM EDT
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A lot of these so called Jesus freaks do it solely for pussy. Guys used to try and invite girls to the campus crusaders Sunday night Faith gatherings only to try and screw as many chicks as they could.
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Posted: 4/7/2016 5:57:00 PM EDT
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Preach your flavor of bullshit on your own time and on your own dime. Now that's eloquent. |
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Posted: 4/7/2016 6:18:03 PM EDT
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His employment with ISP has been terminated. http://wishtv.com/2016/04/07/isp-trooper-fired-for-preaching-during-stops/ 
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Posted: 4/7/2016 6:27:50 PM EDT
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Should be sued. Proselytize on your own time, do your job. ETA: The agency deserves the suit because they should have fired him the first time. It's not something that one needs to be "trained" on. They gave him the opportunity to do it more than once. 
yes, because people like him are clearly the problem right? |
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Posted: 4/8/2016 8:13:25 AM EDT
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The Indiana State Police said Thursday it had let go a trooper who had been sued twice in the past 18 months for allegedly preaching to citizens after stopping them for traffic violations.
Senior Trooper Brian Hamilton, 40, was a 14-year veteran of the agency, Fox 59 reported. His firing was announced two days after the American Civil Liberties Union of Indiana filed suit on behalf of driver Wendy Pyle, who claimed her rights were violated after Hamilton pulled her over in January. "While all of us — citizen and police officer — enjoy the right to freedom of religion and freedom of speech," State Police Superintendent Doug Carter said in a statement, "there are appropriate and proper restrictions placed on agents of the State related to their actions while engaged in their official duties http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/04/08/indiana-state-trooper-fired-for-proselytizing-during-traffic-stops.html?intcmp=hpbt3 |
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Posted: 4/8/2016 8:19:13 AM EDT
[#28]
Should be in jail
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Posted: 4/8/2016 8:20:24 AM EDT
[#29]
That was monumentally fucking stupid on his part, warning or not.
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Posted: 4/8/2016 8:22:04 AM EDT
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yes, because people like him are clearly the problem right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Should be sued. Proselytize on your own time, do your job. ETA: The agency deserves the suit because they should have fired him the first time. It's not something that one needs to be "trained" on. They gave him the opportunity to do it more than once.
yes, because people like him are clearly the problem right? He did get fired - so yeah..... |
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Posted: 4/8/2016 8:27:38 AM EDT
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Amendment I. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.
I would imagine that the driver suffered amazingly and the taxpayers will have to compensate her immensely. |
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Posted: 4/8/2016 8:30:53 AM EDT
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I'll take a little preaching as long as all I get is a warning.
Now, if you give me a ticket fuck your preachy ass. |
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Posted: 4/8/2016 8:44:46 AM EDT
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Should be in jail 
What NY Criminal Statute did he violate Counselor???? Since he didnt learn his lesson from the verbal warning he already had, 30 day suspension.... if he does it again after THAT.. Then he can preach all he wants on the Unemployment Line. But then again we had Progressive Discipline..barring a criminal act you COULDNT fire a guy for something like that, you had to work up to it. |
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Posted: 4/8/2016 8:48:58 AM EDT
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Should be sued. Proselytize on your own time, do your job. ETA: The agency deserves the suit because they should have fired him the first time. It's not something that one needs to be "trained" on. They gave him the opportunity to do it more than once. Yep. |
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Posted: 4/8/2016 8:49:12 AM EDT
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Never give warnings. And also yep. |
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Posted: 4/8/2016 8:49:57 AM EDT
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People actually file complaints about warnings? I've gotten a few warnings over the years, and each time I totally deserved that ticket. So when I got a warning instead, I just said "thank you." All the time. Smart officers don't give warnings any more. |
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Posted: 4/8/2016 8:52:19 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sue him and prison time. Just fucking kidding. A stern warning for him not to do that again would be good. Fuck a lawsuit. |
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Posted: 4/8/2016 8:53:40 AM EDT
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Good. Bible thumpers need to stop shoving their fairy tales down other peoples throats. Do it on your own time, in your own house.
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Posted: 4/8/2016 8:54:00 AM EDT
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I'm the first person to throw a stone when a cop is being a dick.
Asking if you're saved doesn't even peg on my radar as a concern. Especially if it's a warning! |
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Posted: 4/8/2016 8:54:14 AM EDT
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yes, because people like him are clearly the problem right? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Should be sued. Proselytize on your own time, do your job. ETA: The agency deserves the suit because they should have fired him the first time. It's not something that one needs to be "trained" on. They gave him the opportunity to do it more than once.
yes, because people like him are clearly the problem right? So the cop isn't a problem? This is all kosher? |
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Posted: 4/8/2016 8:55:52 AM EDT
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Preach your flavor of bullshit on your own time and on your own dime. There you go. That's the answer. Dumb fucker wasn't being paid to preach. |
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Posted: 4/8/2016 9:02:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: People actually file complaints about warnings? I've gotten a few warnings over the years, and each time I totally deserved that ticket. So when I got a warning instead, I just said "thank you." It was night time, and noticed a car without a tag light. My intention is always give a warning on those. Driver pulls over, and I explain the reason for the stop (no tag light). Driver starts throwing out the race card. I explain that I couldn't tell who is driving the car due to the dark window tint and it being night time. Needless to say, I still gave a written warning. Get called into the Chief's office a few days later, due to the motorist filing a complaint for racial profiling and harassment. After the Chief hears out the motorist, the Chief asks me for my side. I explain the reason for the stop, the dark window tint, and that the stop took place in a dimly light area. I also produce a family photo of my wife (ex-wife now), my 2 step daughters, and myself. Chief looks at the photo and hands it to the motorist. After several seconds, the Chief tells the motorist to get the hell out of his office with his unfounded BS. I was married to a black woman at the time and had 2 step black daughters. Plus I'm half Asian and half white. |
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Posted: 4/8/2016 9:05:04 AM EDT
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Never give warnings. Really? That's your takeaway from this? |
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Posted: 4/8/2016 9:11:55 AM EDT
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Just more Butthurt from the grievance industry. Should he preach to people on the job? Of course not, but there was a time in the not so distant past that people didn't walk around looking for things to be upset about. Now, everybody is offended about something.
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Posted: 4/8/2016 9:12:35 AM EDT
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Really? That's your takeaway from this? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Never give warnings. Really? That's your takeaway from this? Well I would think the not going all preachy on a traffic stop would be common sense so yeah don't give warnings. |
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Posted: 4/8/2016 9:12:52 AM EDT
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Really? That's your takeaway from this? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Never give warnings. Really? That's your takeaway from this? That's my take away from working in LE. |
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Posted: 4/8/2016 9:20:15 AM EDT
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Just more Butthurt from the grievance industry. Should he preach to people on the job? Of course not, but there was a time in the not so distant past that people didn't walk around looking for things to be upset about. Now, everybody is offended about something. He's been warned before, what do you want them to do? Just let him keep doing it? This isn't about Jesus, it's about overstepping boundaries. That's a bad thing. |
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Posted: 4/8/2016 9:27:18 AM EDT
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Happened to me. It was night time, and noticed a car without a tag light. My intention is always give a warning on those. Driver pulls over, and I explain the reason for the stop (no tag light). Driver starts throwing out the race card. I explain that I couldn't tell who is driving the car due to the dark window tint and it being night time. Needless to say, I still gave a written warning. Get called into the Chief's office a few days later, due to the motorist filing a complaint for racial profiling and harassment. After the Chief hears out the motorist, the Chief asks me for my side. I explain the reason for the stop, the dark window tint, and that the stop took place in a dimly light area. I also produce a family photo of my wife (ex-wife now), my 2 step daughters, and myself. Chief looks at the photo and hands it to the motorist. After several seconds, the Chief tells the motorist to get the hell out of his office with his unfounded BS. I was married to a black woman at the time and had 2 step black daughters. Plus I'm half Asian and half white.
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People actually file complaints about warnings? I've gotten a few warnings over the years, and each time I totally deserved that ticket. So when I got a warning instead, I just said "thank you." It was night time, and noticed a car without a tag light. My intention is always give a warning on those. Driver pulls over, and I explain the reason for the stop (no tag light). Driver starts throwing out the race card. I explain that I couldn't tell who is driving the car due to the dark window tint and it being night time. Needless to say, I still gave a written warning. Get called into the Chief's office a few days later, due to the motorist filing a complaint for racial profiling and harassment. After the Chief hears out the motorist, the Chief asks me for my side. I explain the reason for the stop, the dark window tint, and that the stop took place in a dimly light area. I also produce a family photo of my wife (ex-wife now), my 2 step daughters, and myself. Chief looks at the photo and hands it to the motorist. After several seconds, the Chief tells the motorist to get the hell out of his office with his unfounded BS. I was married to a black woman at the time and had 2 step black daughters. Plus I'm half Asian and half white.
I stopped a black guy at night he was two vehicles back with a headlight out and dark tinted windows. He claimed I stopped because he was black. No verbal for the headlight he got a citation. |
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Posted: 4/8/2016 9:27:41 AM EDT
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Should be in jail I actually don't agree. While his actions were entirely inappropriate, a warning the first time and firing the second time was the correct course. And that's what they did. ISP handled this fine. |
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Posted: 4/8/2016 9:28:26 AM EDT
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Should be sued. Proselytize on your own time, do your job. ETA: The agency deserves the suit because they should have fired him the first time. It's not something that one needs to be "trained" on. They gave him the opportunity to do it more than once. No, his department should discipline him. Lawsuit is stupid as the plaintiff didn't suffer any real damages. |
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