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Posted: 5/27/2016 2:43:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/27/2016 2:49:18 PM EDT
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No last-round bolt catch? No bolt catch at all? Charging handle still on the wrong side?
Not perfect. |
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Posted: 5/27/2016 2:49:32 PM EDT
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I may never own a Valmet, but I did go out and get the Tech Sights with the replacement dust cover, for the same reasons why the Fins and the Israelis did. (the factory AK sight placement and blade suck).
One of these days I'll probably modify my Saiga dust cover to fit the Tech Sight, as it looks way better than the one that comes with it. 
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Posted: 5/27/2016 2:50:15 PM EDT
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The AK perfected was the fall of the Berlin Wall. Then the former Combloc countries could get real rifles.
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Posted: 5/27/2016 2:53:56 PM EDT
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I always liked the Cheese grater grip and tubular stock M-62. I was in Finland in the early 80's and would see columns of 50 kids on bicycles with them on their backs on logging roads.
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Posted: 5/27/2016 2:54:11 PM EDT
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Actually the RK95 is the "perfected" version.
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Posted: 5/27/2016 2:54:49 PM EDT
[#6]
The "Finnished" AK.
I had a 71, 76 and 78. Wanted the 76 with the folding stock like Robin Williams used in Survivors movie. Soooooo cool. They are good guns but just nicer AKs. Had a Galil, too. Damn I wish I hadn't let that one go. 
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Posted: 5/27/2016 2:55:27 PM EDT
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I always liked the Cheese grater grip and tubular stock M-62. I was in Finland in the early 80's and would see columns of 50 kids on bicycles with them on their backs on logging roads. http://www.sturmgewehr.com/bhinton/Valmet/Valmet_M62WoodTube.jpg Those were supposed to be very fragile. |
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Posted: 5/27/2016 2:55:35 PM EDT
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I had a m76 folder. Smooth shooting and accurate. It reminded me of something HK built. Should've never sold it.
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Posted: 5/27/2016 2:56:43 PM EDT
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I may never own a Valmet, but I did go out and get the Tech Sights with the replacement dust cover, for the same reasons why the Fins and the Israelis did. (the factory AK sight placement and blade suck). One of these days I'll probably modify my Saiga dust cover to fit the Tech Sight, as it looks way better than the one that comes with it.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd79/brownj255/Firearms/20150609_201635_zpsaj82chif.jpg Nice blaster! |
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Posted: 5/27/2016 3:00:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The "Finnished" AK. I had a 71, 76 and 78. Wanted the 76 with the folding stock like Robin Williams used in Survivors movie. Soooooo cool. They are good guns but just nicer AKs. Had a Galil, too. Damn I wish I hadn't let that one go. That's the first thing I think of whenever someone mentions the Valmet too, I wanted one ever since I first saw that movie way back when. Haven't managed to get one...yet.  |
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Posted: 5/27/2016 3:08:02 PM EDT
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IIRC, the Russian soldiers in "Firefox" used Valmet rifles to shoot the scientists before Clint Eastwood stole their jet
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That's the first thing I think of whenever someone mentions the Valmet too, I wanted one ever since I first saw that movie way back when. Haven't managed to get one...yet. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d8/9c/fd/d89cfd8b4303e9b27313526311e1306c.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The "Finnished" AK. I had a 71, 76 and 78. Wanted the 76 with the folding stock like Robin Williams used in Survivors movie. Soooooo cool. They are good guns but just nicer AKs. Had a Galil, too. Damn I wish I hadn't let that one go. That's the first thing I think of whenever someone mentions the Valmet too, I wanted one ever since I first saw that movie way back when. Haven't managed to get one...yet. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d8/9c/fd/d89cfd8b4303e9b27313526311e1306c.jpg |
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Posted: 5/27/2016 3:13:35 PM EDT
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IIRC, the Russian soldiers in "Firefox" used Valmet rifles to shoot the scientists before Clint Eastwood stole their jet Quote HistoryQuoted:
IIRC, the Russian soldiers in "Firefox" used Valmet rifles to shoot the scientists before Clint Eastwood stole their jet Quoted:
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The "Finnished" AK. I had a 71, 76 and 78. Wanted the 76 with the folding stock like Robin Williams used in Survivors movie. Soooooo cool. They are good guns but just nicer AKs. Had a Galil, too. Damn I wish I hadn't let that one go. That's the first thing I think of whenever someone mentions the Valmet too, I wanted one ever since I first saw that movie way back when. Haven't managed to get one...yet. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d8/9c/fd/d89cfd8b4303e9b27313526311e1306c.jpg The AK's in Red Dawn were Valmets modified to look like Russian AK's, from what I remember. |
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Posted: 5/27/2016 3:19:16 PM EDT
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No last-round bolt catch? No bolt catch at all? Charging handle still on the wrong side? Not perfect. Gosh it doesn't have a forward assist either. Gross! |
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Posted: 5/27/2016 3:21:53 PM EDT
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That's the first thing I think of whenever someone mentions the Valmet too, I wanted one ever since I first saw that movie way back when. Haven't managed to get one...yet. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d8/9c/fd/d89cfd8b4303e9b27313526311e1306c.jpg Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The "Finnished" AK. I had a 71, 76 and 78. Wanted the 76 with the folding stock like Robin Williams used in Survivors movie. Soooooo cool. They are good guns but just nicer AKs. Had a Galil, too. Damn I wish I hadn't let that one go. That's the first thing I think of whenever someone mentions the Valmet too, I wanted one ever since I first saw that movie way back when. Haven't managed to get one...yet. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d8/9c/fd/d89cfd8b4303e9b27313526311e1306c.jpg "He's slicker than whale shit in an ice flow!" |
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Posted: 5/27/2016 3:22:10 PM EDT
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I thought those were Egyptian AKs............
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The AK's in Red Dawn were Valmets modified to look like Russian AK's, from what I remember. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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IIRC, the Russian soldiers in "Firefox" used Valmet rifles to shoot the scientists before Clint Eastwood stole their jet Quoted:
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The "Finnished" AK. I had a 71, 76 and 78. Wanted the 76 with the folding stock like Robin Williams used in Survivors movie. Soooooo cool. They are good guns but just nicer AKs. Had a Galil, too. Damn I wish I hadn't let that one go. That's the first thing I think of whenever someone mentions the Valmet too, I wanted one ever since I first saw that movie way back when. Haven't managed to get one...yet. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d8/9c/fd/d89cfd8b4303e9b27313526311e1306c.jpg The AK's in Red Dawn were Valmets modified to look like Russian AK's, from what I remember. |
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Posted: 5/27/2016 3:23:02 PM EDT
[#16]
Still a 6moa rifle?
No thanks |
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Posted: 5/27/2016 3:24:16 PM EDT
[#17]
Like the Herby Curby of trash cans.
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Posted: 5/27/2016 3:27:34 PM EDT
[#18]
Stgw 90 is AK(ish) perfected
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Posted: 5/27/2016 3:30:15 PM EDT
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Actually the RK95 is the "perfected" version.
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Posted: 5/27/2016 3:33:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: IIRC, the Russian soldiers in "Firefox" used Valmet rifles to shoot the scientists before Clint Eastwood stole their jet Yeah they were, same as the VC who had him in the bamboo cage at the beginning of the movie. |
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Posted: 5/27/2016 3:35:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought those were Egyptian AKs............ Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought those were Egyptian AKs............ Quoted: Quoted: IIRC, the Russian soldiers in "Firefox" used Valmet rifles to shoot the scientists before Clint Eastwood stole their jet Quoted: Quoted: The "Finnished" AK. I had a 71, 76 and 78. Wanted the 76 with the folding stock like Robin Williams used in Survivors movie. Soooooo cool. They are good guns but just nicer AKs. Had a Galil, too. Damn I wish I hadn't let that one go. That's the first thing I think of whenever someone mentions the Valmet too, I wanted one ever since I first saw that movie way back when. Haven't managed to get one...yet. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d8/9c/fd/d89cfd8b4303e9b27313526311e1306c.jpg The AK's in Red Dawn were Valmets modified to look like Russian AK's, from what I remember. |
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Posted: 5/27/2016 3:36:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought those were Egyptian AKs............ Quote HistoryQuoted: I thought those were Egyptian AKs............ Quoted: Quoted: IIRC, the Russian soldiers in "Firefox" used Valmet rifles to shoot the scientists before Clint Eastwood stole their jet Quoted: Quoted: The "Finnished" AK. I had a 71, 76 and 78. Wanted the 76 with the folding stock like Robin Williams used in Survivors movie. Soooooo cool. They are good guns but just nicer AKs. Had a Galil, too. Damn I wish I hadn't let that one go. That's the first thing I think of whenever someone mentions the Valmet too, I wanted one ever since I first saw that movie way back when. Haven't managed to get one...yet. https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/d8/9c/fd/d89cfd8b4303e9b27313526311e1306c.jpg The AK's in Red Dawn were Valmets modified to look like Russian AK's, from what I remember. AKMs in Red Dawn were Maadis. So were the AK-74s, just dressed up cosmetically. |
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Posted: 5/27/2016 3:38:11 PM EDT
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I may never own a Valmet, but I did go out and get the Tech Sights with the replacement dust cover, for the same reasons why the Fins and the Israelis did. (the factory AK sight placement and blade suck). One of these days I'll probably modify my Saiga dust cover to fit the Tech Sight, as it looks way better than the one that comes with it.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd79/brownj255/Firearms/20150609_201635_zpsaj82chif.jpg How is POA/POI impacted by removing the cover for cleaning? |
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Posted: 5/27/2016 3:47:46 PM EDT
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Can't stand that douche Alex guy and won't watch his videos. Had to stop it when he said who he was. Rk62 is neat though.
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Posted: 5/27/2016 3:48:10 PM EDT
[#25]
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How is POA/POI impacted by removing the cover for cleaning? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I may never own a Valmet, but I did go out and get the Tech Sights with the replacement dust cover, for the same reasons why the Fins and the Israelis did. (the factory AK sight placement and blade suck). One of these days I'll probably modify my Saiga dust cover to fit the Tech Sight, as it looks way better than the one that comes with it.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd79/brownj255/Firearms/20150609_201635_zpsaj82chif.jpg How is POA/POI impacted by removing the cover for cleaning? The Rear sight locks into the rear trunion, so it isn't. You have to have a bullet handy to remove the dust cover, though. The Rear sight replaces the rear portion of the recoil spring assembly where the takedown button used to be. |
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Posted: 5/27/2016 3:56:38 PM EDT
[#26]
Had a M76...could not find mags for it..
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Posted: 5/27/2016 3:59:41 PM EDT
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Colloquially known as:
Which is a term of endearment well beyond its literal sense, not unlike how "Garand" carries a broader meaning and understanding that comes from mutual experience for an older generation of Americans 
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Posted: 5/27/2016 3:59:50 PM EDT
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The Rear sight locks into the rear trunion, so it isn't. You have to have a bullet handy to remove the dust cover, though. The Rear sight replaces the rear portion of the recoil spring assembly where the takedown button used to be. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I may never own a Valmet, but I did go out and get the Tech Sights with the replacement dust cover, for the same reasons why the Fins and the Israelis did. (the factory AK sight placement and blade suck). One of these days I'll probably modify my Saiga dust cover to fit the Tech Sight, as it looks way better than the one that comes with it.
http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd79/brownj255/Firearms/20150609_201635_zpsaj82chif.jpg How is POA/POI impacted by removing the cover for cleaning? The Rear sight locks into the rear trunion, so it isn't. You have to have a bullet handy to remove the dust cover, though. The Rear sight replaces the rear portion of the recoil spring assembly where the takedown button used to be. Cool! Thanks |
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Posted: 5/27/2016 4:06:18 PM EDT
[#29]
Would be cool to have but break something and i bet parts are unobtanium
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Posted: 5/27/2016 4:27:46 PM EDT
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Would be cool to have but break something and i bet parts are unobtanium The only parts that you would have to worry about are all most likely interchangeable with other AKM's. 
I bet the .223 mags are spendy, not sure if Galil or other .223 AKM mags would work, and my only guess is "probably". 
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Posted: 5/27/2016 4:34:10 PM EDT
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Gosh it doesn't have a forward assist either. Gross! Quote HistoryQuoted:
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No last-round bolt catch? No bolt catch at all? Charging handle still on the wrong side? Not perfect. Gosh it doesn't have a forward assist either. Gross! Nothing in my post can be honestly construed as approval for vestigial features. I am genuinely concerned that you may have suffered a stroke. Do you smell burning toast? |
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Posted: 5/27/2016 4:54:14 PM EDT
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Still a 6moa rifle? No thanks Not hardly. Bulgarian AKs shoot very well, too. I had a galil that was easily 2moa. Just because it's a Kalashnikov doesn't mean it's not accurate. |
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Posted: 5/28/2016 12:52:41 PM EDT
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The Valmets and SAKOs I've seen and used are way better than 6 MOA.
Some of the Rk95s with ACOGs using Finnish Defense Forces ammo are easily 1.5 MOA guns or better. They are still boat anchors with typical AK controls, although the mag release is enlarged for use with winter gloves. Being able to use Russian ammunition factored into the adoption of AK-type rifles for Finland, but their production quality is in another realm compared to Russian garbage. |
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