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Posted: 8/5/2016 6:24:36 AM EDT
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Good, ANC should have been eradicated years ago.
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Posted: 8/5/2016 6:31:23 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Good, ANC should have been eradicated years ago. They should have all been tied up against the post and shot. Communist terrorists should not a never be a political party and run in any election. |
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Posted: 8/5/2016 6:32:23 AM EDT
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Thug-ocracy. I'm surprised they are doing legitimate elections. Daniel Ortega in Nicaragua went through this in the late 80's/ early 90's.
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Posted: 8/5/2016 6:41:19 AM EDT
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Great, flying to SA just what I need, a bunch of pissed of commies.
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Posted: 8/5/2016 6:50:01 AM EDT
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Quick call Hollywood and a bunch of other celebrities from countries who like to meddle in other peoples politics and tell them to start condemning the majority or minority or whatever that's opposing the ANC. Maybe somebody can write a catchy tune about it and get all the Hipsters to stop buying South African wine from their local Whole Foods until something happens.
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Posted: 8/5/2016 6:51:56 AM EDT
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People like the talk of all the free stuff. It sounds good but never works in real life. Rinse and Repeat everywhere it has been tried.
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Posted: 8/5/2016 2:05:34 PM EDT
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South Africa local elections: ANC suffers major setback
 DA candidate Athol Trollip has just been elected mayor of Nelson Mandela Bay The best example is in the Nelson Mandela Bay municipality, won by the DA, which has a rich history of anti-apartheid struggle. Its new DA mayor is Athol Trollip, who is white. Twenty-two years after the end of apartheid, black people are now voting on issues and not on race. Mr Trollip, who speaks fluent Xhosa, would not be where he is if the vast majority of black people had not voted for him. 'Jesus is back!' Vavi tweets as ANC loses Nelson Mandela Bay As the outgoing African National Congress (ANC) had all but conceded defeat in the contested Windy City‚ former Congress of SA Trade Unions general secretary Zwelinzima Vavi took to Twitter in the early hours of Friday with a supposed photo of the Messiah. "Jesus was seen walking in the streets of Nelson Mandela Metro last night - he is back!” ?@Zwelinzima1 tweeted.  Vavi made it clear that he was no fan of the ruling party or its leader - his tweet referencing notorious claims made by President Jacob Zuma that the "ANC will rule until Jesus returns”. With more than 95 percent of votes counted Friday in municipal elections, South Africa's ruling party appeared to be headed for its biggest electoral blow since it won power at the end of apartheid 22 years ago. The results remained too close to call in the country's largest city, Johannesburg, or Tshwane, the metropolitan area of the capital, Pretoria. But the leader of the opposition Democratic Alliance, Mmusi Maimane, told reporters that his party had won Tshwane, beating the African National Congress, formerly the main anti-apartheid movement. The Democratic Alliance has its roots in white liberal opposition to apartheid and remained a white-led party until last year. Neither it nor the ANC appeared to have a majority in Johannesburg or Tshwane that would allow it to govern alone, raising the possibility of coalition governments. The ANC lost a key municipality named after its star, Nelson Mandela Bay, to the Democratic Alliance, which fielded a white candidate for mayor. The DA already runs the city of Cape Town, the country's second largest and the only major South African city where blacks are not in the majority, and has been pushing hard to win supporters in other regions. The Democratic Alliance angered the ANC last month by declaring that it was the only party that could realize Mandela's dream of a "prosperous, united and non-racial South Africa." Scandals swirling around Zuma have also hurt the ANC. Opposition groups have seized on the revelation that the state paid more than $20 million for upgrades to Zuma's private home. The Constitutional Court recently said Zuma violated the constitution and instructed the president to reimburse the state $507,000. Many South Africans are also concerned over allegations that Zuma is heavily influenced by the Guptas, a wealthy business family of immigrants from India. The president has denied any wrongdoing. The ANC risks losing outright control of the capital, Pretoria, and Johannesburg in its worst electoral display since apartheid ended, as urban voters showed their anger over a flat-lining economy and scandals surrounding President Jacob Zuma. While the ruling party took a narrow lead in the cities as results from its traditional strongholds in townships started to come in, its share of the national vote is set to drop below 60% for the first time since it swept to power under Nelson Mandela in 1994. |
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Posted: 8/5/2016 2:09:44 PM EDT
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What's the over/under on them actually relinquishing power?
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Posted: 8/5/2016 2:16:41 PM EDT
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How long until the Muslims in the new administration come out of the closet?
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Posted: 8/5/2016 2:23:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What's the over/under on them actually relinquishing power? |
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Posted: 8/5/2016 2:45:52 PM EDT
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Well, for this itself to happen, it shows that a number of people are tired of the false promises of the ANC and want to move past the "Apartheid Guilt Trip/It's someone else's fault" bullshit. Their economy is in the crapper, crime is super high, and they have a huge brain drain. Also you have a post apartheid generation coming into voting age so the issues of then aren't a conscious thought but instead a historical issue to simply remember. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's the over/under on them actually relinquishing power? I can agree with all of that. But that doesn't mean the ANC leaders will. It's not like they are strangers to political violence Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/5/2016 2:57:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I can agree with all of that. But that doesn't mean the ANC leaders will. It's not like they are strangers to political violence Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: What's the over/under on them actually relinquishing power? I can agree with all of that. But that doesn't mean the ANC leaders will. It's not like they are strangers to political violence Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile |
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Posted: 8/5/2016 3:01:11 PM EDT
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We shall see.. either they abide by the voters will or they go full Mugabe. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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What's the over/under on them actually relinquishing power? I can agree with all of that. But that doesn't mean the ANC leaders will. It's not like they are strangers to political violence Posted Via AR15.Com Mobile I bet they go the Mugabe route. Declare elections null and void. Seize power. Murder opponents. |
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Posted: 8/5/2016 3:05:16 PM EDT
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RSA still has a large gun culture.... I can see them fighting back if push came to shove. Right now, a civil war never broke out since the transition to post apartheid era was.peaceful in the same manner as the fall of the DDR. Amnesty was granted to both sides.
If the ANC goes radical.... the productive members might get itchy trigger fingers. |
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Posted: 8/5/2016 5:10:47 PM EDT
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South Africa prepares for new era of coalition politics as 'arrogant' ANC faces its worst election losses
A new era of coalition politics in South Africa has put paid to two decades of "arrogant” one-party rule, analysts said on Friday, with the African National Congress expected to be ousted from the leadership of the country’s capitals. With more than three quarters of the votes counted in Pretoria and the business hub Johannesburg, the ruling party and its closest rival the Democratic Alliance wavered within a percentage point of each other and neither exceeded the crucial 50 per cent mark. Both the DA and Julius Malema’s Economic Freedom Fighters, which between them held 51 per cent of the vote share in Johannesburg and 53 per cent in Pretoria by late afternoon, have rejected forming coalitions with the ANC, making them most likely to join with each other. The DA, which already runs Cape Town and also won the industrial city of Port Elizabeth in this election, is centre-right and market friendly while the EFF has called for the nationalisation of the country’s mines and banks and land seizures without compensation. It appears the Commies in the ANC have pissed off other Commies and they've split off and formed their own party. Sounds like the DNC and Bernie Voters. |
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Posted: 8/6/2016 9:03:48 AM EDT
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South Africa local elections: ANC loses in capital Pretoria
With counting almost over, the DA has 43% of the vote compared with the ANC's 41% in Tshwane, the municipality that includes Pretoria. The DA has won 93 seats while the ANC is second with 89 seats in the 214-seat Pretoria-area municipal council. This week, South Africans handed the African National Congress its worst electoral defeat since the ruling party ended apartheid under Nelson Mandela’s leadership in 1994. It was the country’s most competitive local elections, as voters decided who would govern the country’s more than 250 municipalities and districts, which oversee basic services such as water, electricity and sanitation. In a major blow, it lost key cities such as the administrative capital Tshwane (Pretoria) and Port Elizabeth. It failed to make any ground in Cape Town, which it has not governed at a local level since 2006, and looks to lose Johannesburg, although that race was too close to call at the time of writing. In some respects, the results weren’t totally surprising. A pre-election survey reported 57 percent of the respondents saying that the party had lost its "moral compass.” Reports of infighting within the ANC prompted many leaders to opt out of campaigning. Former president Thabo Mbeki said he was away on travel. Former South African vice-president Kgalema Motlanthe last week said the political party he once represented had lost its "historical perspective,” and its leadership was failing. "It’s almost as though the country is on autopilot. There’s no leadership being provided,” Motlanthe said. Sounds like the ANC and DNC are fucking cousins. Reading about the ANC's political blunders and corruption sounds just like the DNC. |
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Posted: 8/6/2016 11:32:00 AM EDT
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South Africa prepares for new era of coalition politics as 'arrogant' ANC faces its worst election losses A new era of coalition politics in South Africa has put paid to two decades of "arrogant” one-party rule, analysts said on Friday, with the African National Congress expected to be ousted from the leadership of the country’s capitals. With more than three quarters of the votes counted in Pretoria and the business hub Johannesburg, the ruling party and its closest rival the Democratic Alliance wavered within a percentage point of each other and neither exceeded the crucial 50 per cent mark.
Both the DA and Julius Malema’s Economic Freedom Fighters, which between them held 51 per cent of the vote share in Johannesburg and 53 per cent in Pretoria by late afternoon, have rejected forming coalitions with the ANC, making them most likely to join with each other.
The DA, which already runs Cape Town and also won the industrial city of Port Elizabeth in this election, is centre-right and market friendly while the EFF has called for the nationalisation of the country’s mines and banks and land seizures without compensation. It appears the Commies in the ANC have pissed off other Commies and they've split off and formed their own party. Sounds like the DNC and Bernie Voters. That sort of coalition sounds like a recipe for instability. I doubt it lasts, if it even comes to fruition in the first place. |
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Posted: 8/6/2016 12:14:32 PM EDT
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If it gets the ANC out of power... I say go for it. I believe the EFF is viewed as the American Green Party and Libertarian Party.
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Posted: 8/6/2016 12:19:41 PM EDT
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I hate commies
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Posted: 8/6/2016 12:19:47 PM EDT
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If it gets the ANC out of power... I say go for it. I believe the EFF is viewed as the American Green Party and Libertarian Party. http://www.ipsos.co.za/SiteAssets/ProfilesSupportersThreeBiggestPoliticalPartiesSouthAfricaDA.jpg http://www.ipsos.co.za/SiteAssets/ProfilesSupportersThreeBiggestPoliticalPartiesSouthAfricaANC.jpg http://www.ipsos.co.za/SiteAssets/ProfilesSupportersThreeBiggestPoliticalPartiesSouthAfricaEFF.jpg The EFF is to the left of the ANC. They want land redistribution and nationalization. They are worse than the ANC. |
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Posted: 8/6/2016 12:28:55 PM EDT
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They "only" won 54% of the vote. They're used to about 60+%. This is after a very long series of scandals too. Party loyalty can be an amazing asset for commies.
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Posted: 8/6/2016 12:31:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The EFF is to the left of the ANC. They want land redistribution and nationalization. They are worse than the ANC. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: If it gets the ANC out of power... I say go for it. I believe the EFF is viewed as the American Green Party and Libertarian Party. http://www.ipsos.co.za/SiteAssets/ProfilesSupportersThreeBiggestPoliticalPartiesSouthAfricaDA.jpg http://www.ipsos.co.za/SiteAssets/ProfilesSupportersThreeBiggestPoliticalPartiesSouthAfricaANC.jpg http://www.ipsos.co.za/SiteAssets/ProfilesSupportersThreeBiggestPoliticalPartiesSouthAfricaEFF.jpg The EFF is to the left of the ANC. They want land redistribution and nationalization. They are worse than the ANC. |
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Posted: 8/6/2016 12:32:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: They "only" won 54% of the vote. They're used to about 60+%. This is after a very long series of scandals too. Party loyalty can be an amazing asset for commies. But for them to start loosing, it is a sign of things to come. |
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Posted: 8/6/2016 12:35:21 PM EDT
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If it gets the ANC out of power... I say go for it. I believe the EFF is viewed as the American Green Party and Libertarian Party. http://www.ipsos.co.za/SiteAssets/ProfilesSupportersThreeBiggestPoliticalPartiesSouthAfricaDA.jpg http://www.ipsos.co.za/SiteAssets/ProfilesSupportersThreeBiggestPoliticalPartiesSouthAfricaANC.jpg http://www.ipsos.co.za/SiteAssets/ProfilesSupportersThreeBiggestPoliticalPartiesSouthAfricaEFF.jpg May not apply here but Any group with the term freedom fighters in it's name within Africa makes me think ethnic cleansing. |
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Posted: 8/6/2016 12:39:56 PM EDT
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Yup.... but the EFF is also a fringe party and I believe that the DA can keep them under control. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If it gets the ANC out of power... I say go for it. I believe the EFF is viewed as the American Green Party and Libertarian Party. http://www.ipsos.co.za/SiteAssets/ProfilesSupportersThreeBiggestPoliticalPartiesSouthAfricaDA.jpg http://www.ipsos.co.za/SiteAssets/ProfilesSupportersThreeBiggestPoliticalPartiesSouthAfricaANC.jpg http://www.ipsos.co.za/SiteAssets/ProfilesSupportersThreeBiggestPoliticalPartiesSouthAfricaEFF.jpg The EFF is to the left of the ANC. They want land redistribution and nationalization. They are worse than the ANC. The EFF wants a land redistribution agreement before working with the DA. The DA and the EFF are too far apart when it comes to political positions. |
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Posted: 8/6/2016 12:42:07 PM EDT
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But for them to start loosing, it is a sign of things to come. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They "only" won 54% of the vote. They're used to about 60+%. This is after a very long series of scandals too. Party loyalty can be an amazing asset for commies. But for them to start loosing, it is a sign of things to come. Yeah, a sign of things to come. 
More killing rampages and tire necklaces. I don't see African commies just getting new jobs and going home. |
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Posted: 8/6/2016 12:47:41 PM EDT
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Also came to post this |
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Posted: 8/6/2016 12:58:53 PM EDT
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The EFF is to the left of the ANC. They want land redistribution and nationalization. They are worse than the ANC. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If it gets the ANC out of power... I say go for it. I believe the EFF is viewed as the American Green Party and Libertarian Party. http://www.ipsos.co.za/SiteAssets/ProfilesSupportersThreeBiggestPoliticalPartiesSouthAfricaDA.jpg http://www.ipsos.co.za/SiteAssets/ProfilesSupportersThreeBiggestPoliticalPartiesSouthAfricaANC.jpg http://www.ipsos.co.za/SiteAssets/ProfilesSupportersThreeBiggestPoliticalPartiesSouthAfricaEFF.jpg The EFF is to the left of the ANC. They want land redistribution and nationalization. They are worse than the ANC. All you need to know to realize that is that Julius Malema is the leader. He wants genocide against the whites. Full-blown socialist. |
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Posted: 8/6/2016 3:13:46 PM EDT
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They "only" won 54% of the vote. They're used to about 60+%. This is after a very long series of scandals too. Party loyalty can be an amazing asset for commies. You go with what you know. I mean it could be worse right? It's not like they are Venezuela...... |
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Posted: 8/6/2016 3:19:15 PM EDT
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If it gets the ANC out of power... I say go for it. I believe the EFF is viewed as the American Green Party and Libertarian Party. http://www.ipsos.co.za/SiteAssets/ProfilesSupportersThreeBiggestPoliticalPartiesSouthAfricaDA.jpg http://www.ipsos.co.za/SiteAssets/ProfilesSupportersThreeBiggestPoliticalPartiesSouthAfricaANC.jpg http://www.ipsos.co.za/SiteAssets/ProfilesSupportersThreeBiggestPoliticalPartiesSouthAfricaEFF.jpg The EFF is to the left of the ANC. They want land redistribution and nationalization. They are worse than the ANC. The EFF wants a land redistribution agreement before working with the DA. The DA and the EFF are too far apart when it comes to political positions. Interesting. I saw a story on France24 about the Dem Alliance and they were talking about redistributing wealth from white businesses but the above article says they're center-right. 
Disregard, saw the above. |
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