Hopefull the gas station guy kept that 1958 quarter.  It's worth $3.62 in silver today.





But it probably got mixed in with all his other change...

You're calling Cormac McCarthy a blowhard?

That's all it was. Just another coin.

s
This is about as intelligent a comment as "vanilla is better than chocolate.  Chocolate sucks ass."

Theres no shame in not being able to understand it, it doesnt spoon feed the viewer.

Well, being in education and watching the slow, grinding downfall of morality and intelligence, and seeing that its at a minimum of 50-60% of Americans that I would call stupid and immoral (dims), and maybe another 20-25% of republicans that are not really.....I think my number is right.

By the way.....I used to do a movie club after school. ALWAYS got parent permission with a detailed slip that explained the film, its rating, and the story. Provided popcorn and pop. I did this to try and get kids to appreciate older films......Or, newer films that they would likely never give a chance. On average got 10-15 to show up. GREAT kids....Showed NCFOM......I made sure kids understood the films ideas, messages.....And would occasionally pause it and discuss it with them. THEY THEN loved it. Then again, the kids watching after school on a Friday tended to be the intelligent, non-sports, curious types. I also, by the way, showed Deliverance and edited the rape scene. Just felt it was unnecessary for them to see that. But they also loved that too.

Showed Unforgiven. This was one of the most popular films I have shown. Kids LOVED Eastwood in it. Especially as, throughout the movie, I paused it to ask them 'is he going to really do this?'.....Got them thinking, covertly, that he wasn't, and that he was really weak. The ending scene had most of them about out of their skin with excitement. This was last year and the year before....Too much going on this year, likely cutting it back to a few less. Maybe 1 a month. Was doing 2 or 3 a month. Its one of my ways of trying to impact them.

Showed the original The Shining.....not as popular.

You won't believe this, but I did ONCE, the first year, show the remake of Cape Fear. Unreal. That one was with about 10 kids....Its heavy, and real, and scary as hell. I showed it as one of the first films, about two weeks after parent conferences, so I could discuss it was as many of the kids parents as possible. THAT one I was a bit frightened of showing....But its just too good. I did edit the viscous attack scene with deniro and the woman. But the rest I showed......Again, they loved it.

Sorry, ramblings.

The rule he broke was giving her the flip.  

Her fate was decided when Chigurh offered Moss a deal.   Bring me the money, and i will let her live.  Keep the money, amd i will kill you, get the money back, and kill your wife.  

That was clearly the deal, and moss decided to try to keep the money.  

There was no place in the equation for fate or mercy.  It was a deal.

Comtrast this with the old gas station guy.  He merely noticed Chigurh, and that is a dangerous thing to do.  Since there was no deal there to mandate an outcome, he let fate decide.  

Chigurh should not and imho would not offer her a coin toss, the deal was made.

A play about the numbing of the moral senses

Nope.  The percentage of intelligent americans is nowhere near "95%". This is one time where you should beware of a lame safety in numbers argument.  Americans made the kartrassians rich, and put obama in the white hoise twice.  

Think of how stupid the average american is, then realize thats just the average, half are stupider still.  

No, the problem is american film audiences are stupid and lazy.  Think about the average action move.  Theres an assumption that i cant remember the guy who killed his family after raping his wife for an hour and a half, so they give me a flashback to spoon feed me.  

Americans like simple movies with white hats and black hats and happy endings.  

But im sure youre right.....

Not a bad theory.

Txl

beer leads to more beer

We have a winner.

I have no desire to ever watch that boring pile of crap ever again.  No interest in it's sequel.

Absolutely.

Now, I will piss off a lot of you here with this, but I HATE sports. Have no interest in them. Think that too is playing a huge part in dumbing us down. How many Americans, men and women, could tell you how many touchdowns a player had made, how large his jockstrap was.....But thought Palin said she could see Russia from her front door? How many know an entire encyclopedia of worthless knowledge about sports.....But don't even know what the Battles of Lexington and Concord were about? How many know even half the capitals in our country? Or who Karl Marx was? Think this is coincidence? Think that the politicians, and people running professional organized sports don't know even partially what they are helping to do?

Of course they do. Damn sure dims do. Keep everyones attention on smoke and mirrors.......While the house is burning down.

You do understand the Soviets made a concerted effort to infiltrate the media and education systems here for exactly the purpose you're describing, right?

To add.....

Any idea how many teenage guys will sit for an entire weekend watching nothing but sports, or playing xbox? They can recite the entire weekends games, all the important players, plays, scores, touchdowns.....But they cannot understand, or sit through, a film like Dr. Strangelove. They HATE movies that ask them to think or reason. Or any film that requires background knowledge. Thats why films like that are not MADE anymore. They will refuse homework, complain about it.....They can talk like Einstein about football, but ask them to discuss the drawbacks of Socialism compared to the drawbacks of Capitalism, and they just go blank. They do not care. They will blindly vote dim, many of them, and believe all republicans are racist.....As they go back to their mindless entertainment.

This is all related.

Hey, what time is 'ouch my BALLS!' on again?

And the soviets succeeded. We have lost, we just don't know it yet.

Chigurh killed a shitload of people, but it all had good reason, starting with a couple million dollars.    

 

Cop - escape from custody.  Guy on the highway - ditching the police cruiser.  Middle management at the desert shootout site - punishment for fucking up.  Chicken truck guy - replacing broke down vehicle.  Mexicans at the motel - thought they had the bag.  Motel night clerk - paid to be lookout for Llewelyn.  Guy driving the pickup - had to stop Llewelyn from escaping.  Woody Harrelson - offense is the best defense.  High rise office upper management - tried to have him whacked.  Carla Jean (presumably) - adds to the intimidation next time he asks politely for whatever he's after.


The coin tosses, which left at least one witness to connect him to a murder (the gas station owner), are the least logical thing he did, but to twist the word somewhat they make sense as a rationalization that puts the guilt for his cold blooded killings of bystanders on "fate".


You can't tell me the Sheriff can't understand killings over money and killers who rationalize their actions as being fate.  He just couldn't wrap his head around Chigurh's extreme lethality and made a point of not hurrying his pursuit overly much - killing a morning picking up horses instead of borrowing a 4x4, slow breakfasts reading the paper, sitting down to drink the still cold milk.  He did go back to Llewelyn's murder scene when he thought Chigurh might be there, but he also decided to mosey on home to the ranch just as soon as he realized he definitely was there.

You sound like an awesome teacher. Thank you for doing what you do.

the movie is about fate, and to some degree, accepting the inevitable. the ending with TLJ talking about his dream shows he has accepted that he is too old for the job and cannot understand the new breed of evil taking hold, hence "no country for old men."


if you are talking about the car crash scene, it was to show that even chigurh wasn't invincible and subject to the same fate that had killed so many others, often at the hands of him. i forget his name but one user said it here perfectly: "even fate's most faithful disciples are not immune from its reach" or something like that.




also lol at everyone here saying "oh it sucked and was awful." if you dont like it fine but its widely regarded by most critics and audiences as a great film and novel, so if you think that it was objectively bad i'll have to  give all those people a ring and let them know the overweight bubba brigade has proved them wrong, lol.


 

This

Talking about the dreams? I think the money one shows a young man with zero fucks to give, the second is an old man accepting his fate (dead dad waiting for him at the end of the path.)

When he's in the hotel room he sees the window locked meaning Chigurh was still around, probably in the closet? Instead of facing him the Sheriff decides fuck this I'm out resigning himself to his inevitable fate. His choice leaves him free to live out his days.

Chigurh already let the husband decide the wifes fate. When he showed a bit of mercy and gave her a chance to change her fate it ended up biting him in the ass, if he had just went in smoked her and left like he normally did he wouldn't have been in the wreck. It shows that even a hard ass killer can grow old and soft and the world will fuck him for it, maybe time for him to retire too because it's no country for old men

That's what I took from it anyways.

Don't be fatuous Jeffrey

I took it as no wives

He also had to abandon a pretty good truck and a couple hunting rifles.

 

I mess with myself counting all the things that I'm attached to. Some of little value to other people, ideas and beliefs I've come to over time, etc. Which make it a herculean task to be single, childless with no possessions and so practical that morals and beliefs are quickly disposable. Can anyone just walk away in 30 secs? Pro gamblers? Buddhist monks?

Yup, that line right there, that's the point of the story.

You guys are making me want to watch it again

says people are dumb for not seeing messages.  describes none of the messages.  so smart, teaches high school.

Just started again on IFC.

Aloha, Mark

Thank you.



 

Children's ice cream, Mandrake.

 

"Were you in NAM?"
"Yeah I was in NAM"
"Me too"

"What does that make me your fucking buddy?"

Great dialogue between the characters in that movie.

Dont go getting ahead of yourself....

Movies can be brought down to something as simple as personal taste.

For instance I really adore asian women and find skinny gals with nice perky sporty boobs attractive.  Other guys look at the type of women I like and think they need to eat a sammich.  That or they want a big ass and big tits.

Same for movies.   After years(nearly 40 years old) I finally got to watch Dr. Strangelove a few weeks ago.   Pretty damn funny and witty movie.  I only caught the last half of it but I am ready to catch the entire movie when it comes on again.

Other favorites include movies like Shawshank Redemption.

But I cannot stand No Country For Old Men.   It is a style/taste thing.

Next thing you know somebody will come along to say they loved the movie but they hate The 5th Element.   Personal taste.


As for video games.   You really should try something like GTA:V or Uncharted 4 to see what kind of story telling takes place along with the acting that takes place.  Watch Angry Joe's review of Uncharted 4 to get an idea of what I mean.   I havent played a better game in probably 10 years.   It is beautiful.  And it is roughly 10-12 hours of interactive story mixed with beautiful scenery and acting.

12th battalion?

Winner!

Can't stop what's coming...

Good guys lose in real life, not all movies have happy endings, and evil exists.

Decent film, but God do I hate Sheriff Bell.

He was a coward in WWII and was a coward as a sheriff, with a romanticized view of how things used to be.

Incredible movie. Well written, directed and acted.

"I feel outmatched".


That's the part you missed.

You've met my ex wife?

I thought it was an excellent movie, thank you for reminding me to watch it again.

Moral of the story: Don't have sympathy for gut-shot cartel folk who will either bleed to death or die of thirst.

See I thought that too until he visits his dad and hears the story of how his uncle was murdered in front of his wife. Also "what you got aint new" the world didn't change just the man.

just play it backwards if you want an ending you can get.

The real killer had a prosthetic arm, they got the wrong guy!!

Interesting.

I like the movie a lot, but was never sure what the ending was supposed to really mean. Thanks for the insights...........

Now, someone please explain the ending scenes in the Coen's "Barton Fink."