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Posted: 9/22/2016 9:24:13 AM EDT
I need a scope for a ar-15, for deer hunting and general use.   1x4, or a 1x6. id like a bdc reticle.... prefer non illuminated... but if I get anough good reports I might go with illuminated...

whats the opinion on this optic?


heres the ar mod 1  $276.00

https://www.amazon.com/Leupold-115388-Mark-Rifle-Scope/dp/B00AB40UMS/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1474550339&sr=8-8&keywords=leupold+1+x+4+scope




Link Posted: 9/22/2016 9:36:51 AM EDT
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I have one on my Colt 6920, mounted in the Leupold mount, and I really like it.  I think it is an excellent choice for an M4 type rifle where you are setting the rifle up to shoot from contact distance out to 100 yards or so.  Obviously you can shoot much farther than that, but the 1-4 is optimal at those distances.  For deer hunting, I prefer a 3-9, as I want to be able to reliably connect longer shots.  I have 2 Mark AR Mod 1 3-9x40 scopes as well, and I am very happy with them.  

The only other thing I would say is that the target turrets on the Mark AR Mod 1 may be less than optimal for hunting, depending on how you hunt.  It is relatively easy for a target turret to get inadvertently turned in the field.  For a deer rifle, I usually go with a VX-II 3-9x40.
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 9:42:25 AM EDT
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I played with it at cabelas on one of their fake plastic ars.


It seemed quick and lightweight  and very bright and clear.

Went with primary arms 1-6 for extra mag, true 1x, and ranging bdc reticle.

I already had a 1-4 millet dms1 and the leupod was lighter and nicer. I used 1-4 on a hunt and always wanted more magnification.

Link Posted: 9/22/2016 9:50:20 AM EDT
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I would take a look at the new Nikon P-223 1.5x4.5. Same class of optics IMO and it's nice.

https://www.amazon.com/Nikon-P-223-1-5-4-5x20-BDC600-Riflescope/dp/B00SMX9JOK/ref=sr_1_23?s=hunting-fishing&ie=UTF8&qid=1474552039&sr=1-23&refinements=p_89%3ANikon%2Cp_36%3A1253558011

I have 1 mounted on my current SHFT rifle and like it. I might get a 2nd one for another AR I plan on building

Link Posted: 9/22/2016 9:52:05 AM EDT
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I have one on my Colt 6920, mounted in the Leupold mount, and I really like it.  I think it is an excellent choice for an M4 type rifle where you are setting the rifle up to shoot from contact distance out to 100 yards or so.  Obviously you can shoot much farther than that, but the 1-4 is optimal at those distances.  For deer hunting, I prefer a 3-9, as I want to be able to reliably connect longer shots.  I have 2 Mark AR Mod 1 3-9x40 scopes as well, and I am very happy with them.  

The only other thing I would say is that the target turrets on the Mark AR Mod 1 may be less than optimal for hunting, depending on how you hunt. It is relatively easy for a target turret to get inadvertently turned in the field. For a deer rifle, I usually go with a VX-II 3-9x40.
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so.. think I might be better served with the VXII ??  basically same scope, for $288.00, without the adjustable turrents. I'm considering two of these, one for the ar, and one for a marlin 44 mag. acutally 3 I guess, ar, marlin 44 mag, and marlin 45/70.

https://www.amazon.com/Leupold-110793-VX-2-Rifle-Scope/dp/B006PH5SUY/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1474552065&sr=8-8&keywords=Leupold+vx+II+1x4+scope


I was considering a vortex strike eagle, for the ar, but I'm not a fan of their reticle.... although 1x6 power would be nice.
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 10:00:06 AM EDT
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I am a huge fan of Leupold scopes.  Mostly because their build quality is just ridiculous.  I have had them survive abuse in the field that you wouldn't believe and still hold zero.  The target turrets are nice for the range or for a precision rifle, but for serious hunting, they can be a liability.  I think you have to assess what kind of hunting you are going to do and what kind of shots you envision taking.  Maybe get one VX-II and one Mark AR Mod 1?
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 10:03:13 AM EDT
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I have the VX-R Patrol in 1-4. It's a darn nice optic for the money. Maybe see if you can find one of those, used.

I've owned the Nikon 1-4 and it was a nice scope, also. Very good glass for the money.

I'd like to try out the Vortex PST 1-4.
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 10:13:26 AM EDT
[#7]
lots of options it seems for a 1x4 or 1x6 scope... burris mtac,  leupold ar, leupold vxII, primary arms, vortex.. all around $250-$300.  id really like a bdc reticle, but pretty much all of them are illuminated.

id rather have a non illuminated... just something else to break IMHO.
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 10:20:36 AM EDT
[#8]
I've shot with the Mark AR and the VX-R, and both are solid scopes for the price, IMO.
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 10:22:59 AM EDT
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Check out YouTube and superset72

Link Posted: 9/22/2016 10:25:00 AM EDT
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I am a huge fan of Leupold scopes.  Mostly because their build quality is just ridiculous.  I have had them survive abuse in the field that you wouldn't believe and still hold zero.  The target turrets are nice for the range or for a precision rifle, but for serious hunting, they can be a liability. I think you have to assess what kind of hunting you are going to do and what kind of shots you envision taking.  Maybe get one VX-II and one Mark AR Mod 1?
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This is a good point. Unless you're going to dial adjustments in the field or at the bench, exposed turrets are a liability, not an asset. For a scope that you "set and forget," capped turrets are a benefit. They're less bulky, and they won't get moved by accident. I don't see the point to being able to dial field changes with a 1-4 or 1-6 scope with a BDC reticle. I think a lot of scope makers put exposed turrets on these kinds of scopes because consumers think they want them. I would much prefer to have capped turrets on my 1-4.
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 10:31:01 AM EDT
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Weaver Super Slam at Natchez.
1-5x24 30mm, heavy duplex,  Japanese production,  despite what the website says weighs 15.2oz on a scale

$299, I have two they are very nice,  can't link from phone
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 10:33:50 AM EDT
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Had one and hated it. Get an SWFA for a few bucks more.
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 10:35:26 AM EDT
[#14]
Used Vortex PST 1-4X from the EE
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 10:36:07 AM EDT
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Tagged for later.

This is VERY relevant to my interest.
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 10:36:31 AM EDT
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Nikon M-223 1-4 with choice of BDC or Point Blank reticles.  can also get custom turrets.

clear glass and the closest to 1x of any scope i've owned including my Trijicons.  Less FOV than the T's due to the 1" tube but Also lighter in weight.  

Link Posted: 9/22/2016 10:39:06 AM EDT
[#17]
Check out the Truglo 1-6x. Very impressed with it. True 1x, comes with mount and the pigtail.

http://www.truglo.com/optics-tactical/tru-brite-30mm-illuminated-reticle-tactical-rifle-scope.asp
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 10:39:34 AM EDT
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lots of options it seems for a 1x4 or 1x6 scope... burris mtac,  leupold ar, leupold vxII, primary arms, vortex.. all around $250-$300.  id really like a bdc reticle, but pretty much all of them are illuminated.

id rather have a non illuminated... just something else to break IMHO.
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You know you can buy an illuminated scope and take the battery out right?

I used the Burris TAC30 ($299) for years in competition and never turned the illumination on.

Love that scope.  At 4x, everything is inside the donut out to 600yds.  For a $300 price point, the TAC30, Strike Eagle, and PA ACSS are all great.  Strike eagle has the best warranty.
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 10:41:44 AM EDT
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Vortex Strike Eagle. 1-6x24 reticle isn't too cluttered...Street price of about $300

Vortex Strike Eagle
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 10:42:01 AM EDT
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Burris MTAC
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 10:42:47 AM EDT
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lots of options it seems for a 1x4 or 1x6 scope... burris mtac,  leupold ar, leupold vxII, primary arms, vortex.. all around $250-$300.  id really like a bdc reticle, but pretty much all of them are illuminated.

id rather have a non illuminated... just something else to break IMHO.
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The Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6x is a prismatic sight--its reticle shows as black when the illumination is turned off.  Works fine for me.  Lots of bang for the buck.  I prefer it to my Burris and Leupold.
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 10:44:09 AM EDT
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Weaver Super Slam at Natchez.
1-5x24 30mm, heavy duplex,  Japanese production,  despite what the website says weighs 15.2oz on a scale

$299, I have two they are very nice,  can't link from phone
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looks like a great price. they are $500 on amazon... hmmmm
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 10:45:17 AM EDT
[#23]
That would s a good scope for the price. I have at least one of them.
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 10:45:56 AM EDT
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The Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6x is a prismatic sight--its reticle shows as black when the illumination is turned off.  Works fine for me.  Lots of bang for the buck.  I prefer it to my Burris and Leupold.
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lots of options it seems for a 1x4 or 1x6 scope... burris mtac,  leupold ar, leupold vxII, primary arms, vortex.. all around $250-$300.  id really like a bdc reticle, but pretty much all of them are illuminated.

id rather have a non illuminated... just something else to break IMHO.

The Vortex Strike Eagle 1-6x is a prismatic sight--its reticle shows as black when the illumination is turned off.  Works fine for me.  Lots of bang for the buck.  I prefer it to my Burris and Leupold.


I third this. I recently picked one up and it has become my favorite optic so far.
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 10:47:22 AM EDT
[#25]
Take a look that the  Leupold HOG.

Link Posted: 9/22/2016 10:50:25 AM EDT
[#26]
I'm quite happy with my Strike Eagle.  
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 10:52:13 AM EDT
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I'm a big fan of the PA 1-6.  My son put one on his AR, and I liked it so much I put one on one of mine.
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 10:57:57 AM EDT
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I use a Primary Arms 6x on my .308 for hunting. The ACSS reticle is awesome and the scope has held up great!

Link Posted: 9/22/2016 10:59:01 AM EDT
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looks like a great price. they are $500 on amazon... hmmmm
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Weaver Super Slam at Natchez.
1-5x24 30mm, heavy duplex,  Japanese production,  despite what the website says weighs 15.2oz on a scale

$299, I have two they are very nice,  can't link from phone



looks like a great price. they are $500 on amazon... hmmmm


Does not have your desired bdc,  but is like I said a very nice scope. I think if the dolts at Natchez would fix the weight on their website they would already be gone.
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 11:10:35 AM EDT
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Had one and hated it. Get an SWFA for a few bucks more.
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I was there a few weeks ago, started out liking the Nikon, and ultimately ended up with the SWFA. It really is a nice scope for a few bucks more.
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 11:18:52 AM EDT
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I was there a few weeks ago, started out liking the Nikon, and ultimately ended up with the SWFA. It really is a nice scope for a few bucks more.
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Had one and hated it. Get an SWFA for a few bucks more.
I was there a few weeks ago, started out liking the Nikon, and ultimately ended up with the SWFA. It really is a nice scope for a few bucks more.

Every SWFA I've ever owned or used has been rock solid for the price. I can't recommend them enough
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 11:26:20 AM EDT
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I use a Primary Arms 6x on my .308 for hunting. The ACSS reticle is awesome and the scope has held up great!

<a href="http://s526.photobucket.com/user/unfmoose/media/PA10%20CWWII_zpsfmyu6l5z.jpg.html" target="_blank">http://i526.photobucket.com/albums/cc345/unfmoose/PA10%20CWWII_zpsfmyu6l5z.jpg</a>
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I love my PA 1-6 ACSS, and wouldn't mind having more of their products. It's not a precision-grade scope, but I can hit steel targets at 500 yards with it. magnification and ammo choice(Wolf Gold) make it a challenge if the wind is up, but the reticle is the shit once you get past 200-300yds.
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 11:34:03 AM EDT
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Plus+ 1 on the Nikon 223, really impressed by it.
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 11:34:46 AM EDT
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I'm going to go against the grain and suggest the HiLux/Leatherwood CMR 1-4x.  It's a less popular scope, but has excellent glass, a very useful reticule, green illumination, and is relatively light.  The only real downside is a somewhat unforgiving eye box at 4x magnification.  I have stacks of budget scopes, and the CMR really stands out compared to stuff like the PA, Bushnell AR, and others in the $200-$500 price range.

They do have a 1-8x if you need more magnification, but it is about twice the price of the 1-4x.
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 11:37:58 AM EDT
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It's 1-4x, as in one to four power

not one by four.
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 11:50:53 AM EDT
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As previously noted, the Hi Lux CMR is pretty awesome. Another optic you might want to check out is the Minox ZX5 1-5. Solidly built, good clarity and decent light gathering given the objective size.
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 11:53:36 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/22/2016 12:02:18 PM EDT
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Tag. I'm in the same dilemma with so many choices out there.
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 12:52:12 PM EDT
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Primary Arms 1-8 is in your price range.


Link Posted: 9/22/2016 1:19:32 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 9/22/2016 1:23:19 PM EDT
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Look at the Weaver V-series 1-3x.  No illumination, duplex reticle, Japanese glass. $175
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I had two of these. GTG
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 1:25:10 PM EDT
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Vortex Strike Eagle. 1-6x24 reticle isn't too cluttered...Street price of about $300

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And they aren't heavy like some of the others.

This is my suggestion.

Link Posted: 9/22/2016 1:26:23 PM EDT
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Vortex Strike Eagle
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 1:29:28 PM EDT
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I like this one .  It is illuminated but you don't have to turn it on.  The reticle is BDC and visible as black if the battery dies.
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 1:33:06 PM EDT
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I am also going to recommend the Strike Eagle.  Works great.
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 1:51:11 PM EDT
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Primary Arms 1-8x24 blem for $299
It says $379 but look under other sellers for the used and the first one will be Primary Arms blem.





ETA: I couldn't find anything on the outside of the scope and I guess my eyes aren't good enough to find the specs on the outside edge of the glass.

Link Posted: 9/22/2016 6:28:10 PM EDT
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Primary Arms 1-8 is in your price range.


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the primary arms 1x8 is looking pretty nice.
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 6:43:11 PM EDT
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There's a guy selling 2 Strike Eagles for a steal in the EE.
Link Posted: 9/22/2016 6:46:26 PM EDT
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the primary arms 1x8 is looking pretty nice.
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Primary Arms 1-8 is in your price range.





the primary arms 1x8 is looking pretty nice.



The 1-6 is pretty damn  cool. Glass isn't the best. But all the other stuff is better than the other offerings in my opinion .
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