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Link Posted: 1/21/2017 2:02:40 PM EDT
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Can't kill an idea.
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You're right, you can't kill and idea, but you can kill their enthusiasm for acting on the idea.
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 2:03:40 PM EDT
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Remember that while most, almost all, muslims agree with violent jihad, only a relative few are actually doing it.  Others would rather take care of their farms and businesses.  As with many things, knock down the leaders and activists, the rest will stay quieter.
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It will be interesting to see how Trump interacts with CAIR.
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 2:04:38 PM EDT
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But you can kill the idea turning into action by putting fear in their head.
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 2:05:33 PM EDT
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Yes you can, just gotta kill enough of the people with the idea.
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 2:06:13 PM EDT
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Every former head of the CIA says we cannot kill our way out of this.
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 2:07:13 PM EDT
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How does Trump wipe Islamic Extremism off the face of the earth?
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Kill them when and where you find them, until there are none left
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 2:07:36 PM EDT
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Lol
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 2:07:47 PM EDT
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Every former head of the CIA says we cannot kill our way out of this.
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It's easy to say something cannot be done when that same something has never been tried.
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 2:08:25 PM EDT
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He has identified the enemy, that hasn't been done before. It's the beginning of the beginning.
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 2:08:27 PM EDT
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You can kill everyone who acts on it.
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 2:08:35 PM EDT
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All extremists should be taken out and shot.
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 2:08:56 PM EDT
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I wonder how they would respond when they are facing complete eradication of their people like Japan did in WWII?
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 2:14:40 PM EDT
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LOL!!!!

Wanna bet?
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 2:16:42 PM EDT
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Richard at Acre...........
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 2:21:26 PM EDT
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He's going to team up with Chuck Norris and Zombie Duke Wayne. The three of them will kick the crap out of all of the terrorists!
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 2:24:58 PM EDT
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Every former head of the CIA has succeeded only in exacerbating the problem by projecting weakness in the name of tolerance and political correctness.
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 2:25:38 PM EDT
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Loose the hands of our planners and generals that are tied with bullshit policy.
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 2:27:18 PM EDT
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I wonder how they would respond when they are facing complete eradication of their people like Japan did in WWII?
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Who is "they"?

Even at its worst, Allied forces during World War II were not going to, nor would/could, completely eradicate the Japanese people.  Millions might have died, had a full invasion of Japan taken place, but it would not have killed everyone in that country (or even a majority).  

In any case, like I mentioned in a post on page 2, the defeat of Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany are not good comparisons to the problem of radical Islamic terrorism.  Both Japan and Germany were highly disciplined societies, with ideologies that were fiercely nationalistic, and whose military actions were carried out by formal armies.  None of that is true when dealing with terrorists.
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 2:28:50 PM EDT
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But that's no reason not to try!
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 2:30:18 PM EDT
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Carpet bombing with Daisy Cutters would be a good start...
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 2:31:07 PM EDT
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This. Its been around for a long time, it ain't going anywhere. All WE (not Trump, he is not a diety) can do is keep them at bay and slow their growth until they civilize (if ever).
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 2:38:32 PM EDT
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This. Its been around for a long time, it ain't going anywhere. All WE (not Trump, he is not a diety) can do is keep them at bay and slow their growth until they civilize (if ever).
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This. Its been around for a long time, it ain't going anywhere. All WE (not Trump, he is not a diety) can do is keep them at bay and slow their growth until they civilize (if ever).
the cancer metastasized what about 1400 years ago? it ain't changing anytime soon.
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 2:43:12 PM EDT
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First thing would be for a lot of idiots to realize that wars don't run on a timetable, won't be over in a set time, and be in it for the long haul.

Otherwise, we puss out and elect another Obama and do this shit over and over.
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 2:47:24 PM EDT
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"You can't kill an idea."    

Yes you surely can and history is rife with examples.

It is called deterrence and every human being capable of reason will either choose to sacrifice themselves on the altar of an intolerable idea or abandon the idea in favor of continuing their existence once faced with an inescapably terminal, deterrent force. 

All that is required is a ceaseless and mercilessly unflinching annihilation of those supporting the idea that they are to dominate, enslave or murder all those not like them.

Do those of you senselessly repeating the fallacy that "you can't kill and idea" think for a minute that the Islamist's sit around saying the same thing about Individual Liberty or Christianity, etc...

One can most certainly kill an idea, though one will never kill this particular"idea" by talking it to death.

The Quran is an instruction manual for destroying an idea such as Islam. One simply needs to flip the script and begin regarding the enemies of all humanity, the would be dominators, those who would see the entire non-muslim world in submission, either murdered or enslaved, exactly as the un-holy Quran instructs for the treatment of the so-called Infidels everywhere.

No quarter for those who cling to the idea that Islam has been misrepresented by extremists and continue lending credence to the idea that it is a religion of peace. They are supporters of an ideology that is clearly defined as threatening to all non-muslims in the Quran, the Hadiths, etc....

No single rain drop thinks itself responsible for the flood but the flood could not happen without their contribution.

It is a domination ideology aimed at the entire world and should be regarded as such. Those who chose it as their belief system chose poorly and have the choice to either own the fallout from it or abandon it in search of a belief system that encompasses that which they wish Islam could be.

Since systems like that already exist and acknowledging that gutting Islam of all that is extreme and threatening to non-muslims leaves nothing of it. The choice of honest, peace loving people who respect the right of individuals to live their own lives free from the harassment of others is remarkably simple to attain. That they remain evinces that they are either ignorant of their so-called religion or that they support that which it commands.

Islam is an ideology of deception, destruction, submission, slavery and domination.

Take that away and what is left of it?

It is the manifesto of parasites.

Can you kill this idea? Easily, but be warned , the CoC will need to be violated.

 
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 2:54:18 PM EDT
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US Marines, Seals, Rangers and all the rest and give them the right ROE.  

Problem solved.
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 2:55:41 PM EDT
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Killing an idea is like cutting out a tumor. You need to cut enough extra healthy flesh to ensure you have clean margins so it doesn't grow back.

Debate whether or not you should kill an idea, not whether or not you can. We have the technology to kill every mammal on the planet. Don't underestimate the means by which we can kill, question the resolve to use them.
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 3:01:28 PM EDT
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bang all their women.
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...while glassing their countries into non-existence
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 3:02:36 PM EDT
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Endless waves of air fuel bombs, napalm, cruise missiles and low yield tactical nukes.

At home start by adopting the IDF 22 sniper mentality for protesters, rioters and people with masks get shot right the fuck in the head on the street Judge Dread style.
Else where? If they are Marines... unshackle them, you do not put Marines on the ground to win hearts and minds.  You put them there to brake shit, pillage and draw dicks on every fucking thing.
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 3:02:37 PM EDT
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It's a goal like zero defects......
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 3:07:31 PM EDT
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The hell you can't.
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 3:10:04 PM EDT
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The earth is a graveyard of people and ideas long dead.
Ideas, cultures, peoples, kingdoms, nations, etc... all can be crushed, conquered, eradicated or simply fade away.

eta- ideas are killed off, that is how regions become filled with and dominated by conquerors ideas or ideas that evolve by other means, ideas spread, ideas die..
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 3:10:19 PM EDT
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I can think of one way, but it would probably violate the CoC.  
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 3:13:28 PM EDT
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Sure you can.  You just have to kill enough people that have the idea.  Eventually you'll kill the idea.  Problem with that method is that it's not socially acceptable anymore.     You just have to make sure all of your enemies have seen the "end of war."
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 3:20:45 PM EDT
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It's a generational problem. They breed these radicals generation after generation. The only solution is to cull the radicals while trying to put the rest to work. A lot of the new generation of radicals are without jobs or a future. That's really the only long term solution, unless they just have a change of heart but that won't happen. How much we should be responsible for building their economy is up for debate (none IMO), but the ME seems to be incapable of fixing their own desolation by themselves. Kind of ironic in the past 90 years or so they had the largest energy supply for the world, and they squandered it by greed. So, it just boils down to the US culling the radicals to protect ourselves, and so the cycle continues.
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 3:23:35 PM EDT
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You don't get rid of the extremism without getting rid of Islam. He should Polonium-210 some leaders and install pro-US leaders that will ban the religion and convert people to Christianity.
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 3:34:25 PM EDT
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Well, for starters we don't ever try to bring freedom/democracy to a country where it is certain not to work. Ever notice that if we are there they all take our lives and our money. Then, when we tire of the whole CF and leave they go right back to killing each other. In the interim we have traded some really fine young Americans who want to live for those on their side who see death as a path to paradise and who still hate us. Regards
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 3:34:25 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 1/21/2017 3:37:19 PM EDT
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Make sustainable fusion a "Moonshot".

Support that with a huge propaganda effort towards pebble reactors, and build the crap out of them.

The only reason anyone pays attention to the goatfuckers is their cheap oil.

After that, let them wither away.

Until then, unleash the Tiptoe Boys, in full murder mode.
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 3:42:53 PM EDT
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Multiprong attack . Kill the sheep and goats put IEDs in camels and take their country under control. That will bring them to the field of battle and force them into the claws of the Eagle. Fuck their females and kill their Holy men. Soon they will be in hiding or dead. About every 20 years do it again. Rinse Lather and Repeat.
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 3:53:40 PM EDT
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Well we sure can kill a bunch of them trying.
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Well we sure can kill a bunch of them trying.

While it is true you can not kill an idea. You can make them think the idea isn't worth the extinction of all who hold it.
This is basically how you win a war over anyone. This is why Japan surrendered. 
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 4:36:23 PM EDT
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The hell you can't.
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What was the name of the empire in North Africa that threatened Rome?

What happened to the pharaohs and their control of Egypt?

What happened to the Incas?  The Aztecs?

Did you know that at one time there where European cities in the middle east with populations of up to 50,000 people?  Where are they now?  

History is full of accounts of kingdoms and empires who rolled over the countries and even continents around them, only to rolled over in turn by another kingdom or empire.  Most of their cities are gone, very little of their history is known today and the ones we know of may be a small number of the actual similar incidents that have occurred over time.

Are we going to survive, or give up?  Are we willing to do what it takes to survive?  I'm sure some people are.  The others will be forgotten, in time.
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 4:51:36 PM EDT
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We can drill our own oil and turn the house of saud into our bitch, for starters. Then get India to smack down Pakistan, while we overthrow Iran. Let Israel pitch in wherever they want.
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The Saudi royals are the financiers and instigators of the jihadists around the world, from the bombings of our African embassies to 9/11. They also controlled our politicians until now - they don't own Trump. They owned both Bushes and Obama, and Clinton as well.
Trump has to contend with the Senators and Representatives the Saudi still own.
Once he gets them in line, the US and Russia can definitely stop this Muslim bull shit.
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 5:01:09 PM EDT
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Actually, if we could get the feminists to do something useful and get their women in full rebellion to Sharia. That might, nooo absolutely would work.

Oh, yes.
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 5:04:47 PM EDT
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Actually, if we could get the feminists to do something useful and get their women in full rebellion to Sharia. That might, nooo absolutely would work.

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Good luck with that. Muslims are in league with the feminists in their fight against the Patriarchy.
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 5:06:44 PM EDT
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This, would go a long way. Especially if focused on the money changers.
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 5:10:53 PM EDT
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Good luck with that. Muslims are in league with the feminists in their fight against the Patriarchy.
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That is rich.... And the most illogical of plans.  What are the feminists going to do about absolute Islamic Patriarchy. LOL.

I guess be stoned to death in the end.
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 5:11:51 PM EDT
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Any idea, culture, people, or belief can be eliminated.

Whether or not the necessary actions and rules of engagement are acceptable is the only question. As a practical matter, the United States has the capability.
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 5:17:01 PM EDT
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let ashley Judd give them a speech. yep that would kill them.

Ashley Judd FULL Speech at "Women's March" In Washington DC ‘I am a nasty woman’
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 5:19:28 PM EDT
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First, we unionize ISIS.  Then, we make them subject to the EPA, OSHA and the EEOC.

Nothing would ever survive an attack like that.
Link Posted: 1/21/2017 5:19:39 PM EDT
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Stop funding them like the previous administration was.
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