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Posted: 2/9/2017 8:50:02 AM EDT
Oh look, rational tax and regulatory policies after years and years of bullshit clearing the way for high paying, high tech jobs manufacturing valuable exports. The plant is expected to indirectly create 10,000 jobs on top of the 3,000 they hire, 80% of Intel's American made product is exported.
New York Times SAN FRANCISCO — Intel, the world’s largest computer chip manufacturer, will invest $7 billion to finish a factory in Arizona, adding 3,000 jobs, the company’s chief executive said on Wednesday after meeting with President Trump at the White House. The completion of the factory, which will complement two other Intel semiconductor plants in Chandler, Ariz., had been under consideration for several years. Standing beside Mr. Trump in the Oval Office, Brian Krzanich, Intel’s chief executive, said the company had decided to proceed now because of “the tax and regulatory policies we see the administration pushing forward.” Mr. Trump said: “The people of Arizona will be very happy. It’s a lot of jobs.” He said Intel called the White House several weeks ago to coordinate the announcement. That outreach illustrates the tightrope that Silicon Valley companies are walking as they deal with a president most of them did not want to see in office. (snip) Mr. Smith said Mr. Trump had offered Intel no financial incentives to complete the Arizona factory. The plant was conceived in 2011. President Barack Obama visited the site in 2012, when construction had just begun, and he praised the plant as an example of “an America where we build stuff and make stuff and sell stuff all over the world.” But it was mothballed in 2014 after sales of personal computers — and the Intel chips that go into them — started to slide. Intel restructured its business and announced last year that it was laying off 12,000 people, including 560 in Chandler. The company now employs about 50,000 people in the United States and 106,000 worldwide. I'd have paid Obama to stay away from the 2012 groundbreaking, he's the definition of a Shit Midas. In a speech he gave at the groundbreaking, Obama said the plant was an argument for more government incentives (concentrate the power, skim off the top, kiss the ring). |
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Oh look, rational tax and regulatory policies after years and years of bullshit clearing the way for high paying, high tech jobs manufacturing valuable export s. View Quote What tax and an regulation policies were changed? Because none were changed. If you think a company will invest 7 billion based on "promises" that gov will change something, I got some prime swamp land to sell ya. This is nothing more than a PR stunt. Intel finally has next generation chip set and need additional manufacturing capacity so they are resuming the plant construction they wanted since 2011 but halted on weak PC demand. Also, chipset production is all fully automated in cleanrooms so you can forget about those 3,000 jobs being high tech, high paying jobs. Will be small contingency of QEs with bulk being low paid warehouse workers and Hilo operators. That's why it's $2.3 million per job. |
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INTEL backed Anita Sarkesian. and they fund feminist frequency with 300 Million. vowed to have diversity hires in every level of employment. http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/09/10/intel-cuts-300m-in-jobs-research-education-and-talent-to-fund-feminist-frequency/ http://invisioncommunity.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/1-LXRGpBZ5PlhZkImGHjRSYw.jpeg View Quote |
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Also, chipset production is all fully automated in cleanrooms so you can forget about those 3,000 jobs being high tech, high paying jobs. Will be small contingency of QEs with bulk being low paid warehouse workers and Hilo operators. That's why it's $2.3 million per job. View Quote I work in the industry and you are very wrong. Most of the jobs will be in engineering and technicians to maintain the equipment and robotics. It's kind of a big deal to make leading edge semiconductors. |
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And to be ignored by the MSM...but, did you hear TRUMP DIDN'T RETURN A BOOK TO THE LIBRARY IN 3rd GRADE!?! LITERALLY HITLER!!!11!!!!
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I work in the industry and you are very wrong. Most of the jobs will be in engineering and technicians to maintain the equipment and robotics. It's kind of a big deal to make leading edge semiconductors. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Also, chipset production is all fully automated in cleanrooms so you can forget about those 3,000 jobs being high tech, high paying jobs. Will be small contingency of QEs with bulk being low paid warehouse workers and Hilo operators. That's why it's $2.3 million per job. I work in the industry and you are very wrong. Most of the jobs will be in engineering and technicians to maintain the equipment and robotics. It's kind of a big deal to make leading edge semiconductors. |
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I work in the industry and you are very wrong. Most of the jobs will be in engineering and technicians to maintain the equipment and robotics. It's kind of a big deal to make leading edge semiconductors. View Quote Hell for the sake of the argument I will even agree with you on and can even says all of them will be engineering and technical jobs....that still leaves no manufacturing jobs created for the blue collar working class. Those with meaningful college education, specially technically degrees have no problem finding jobs as is. |
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What tax and an regulation policies were changed? Because none were changed. If you think a company will invest 7 billion based on "promises" that gov will change something, I got some prime swamp land to sell ya. This is nothing more than a PR stunt. Intel finally has next generation chip set and need additional manufacturing capacity so they are resuming the plant construction they wanted since 2011 but halted on weak PC demand. Also, chipset production is all fully automated in cleanrooms so you can forget about those 3,000 jobs being high tech, high paying jobs. Will be small contingency of QEs with bulk being low paid warehouse workers and Hilo operators. That's why it's $2.3 million per job. View Quote . Are you some kind of sleeper, or Manchurian Candidate that got triggered when Trump got elected? . |
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@pgaplayerless is a paid CTR shill. I assert this in a literal sense. I honestly believe that this poster is being paid by a Soros-funded organization to disrupt, discredit, and sew dischord.
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. Are you some kind of sleeper, or Manchurian Candidate that got triggered when Trump got elected?. View Quote If one wants to make a real difference in way things work in our country, it's imperative that one doesn't fall for the smoke and mirrors. I don't care if Obama admin does it or Trump admin does it. This is announcement is a great example of smoke and mirrors. It boasts the opening a new manufacturing plant costing billions of dollars giving the illusion it will be huge magnet for manufacturing jobs and it only happened thanks to change of federal regulations policies (which didn't change and the planned plant was only put on hold in 2014 due to reduced demand for PCS). It goes great with the MAGA narrative but what it won't tell you he average reader is that blue collar working class is still left in the dust. This project will only create jobs at the extreme of the spectrum and that is educated white collar workers in technical field and then low paid blue collar workers that just deal with moving raw material and finish product around. The high paid blue collar jobs have been taken up by robots. |
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Also, chipset production is all fully automated in cleanrooms so you can forget about those 3,000 jobs being high tech, high paying jobs. Will be small contingency of QEs with bulk being low paid warehouse workers and Hilo operators. That's why it's $2.3 million per job. View Quote ... you have no idea what you are talking about. |
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Hell for the sake of the argument I will even agree with you on and can even says all of them will be engineering and technical jobs....that still leaves no manufacturing jobs created for the blue collar working class. Those with meaningful college education, specially technically degrees have no problem finding jobs as is. View Quote Technician is more of a technical blue colar job. It's an hourly pay job and many have two year degrees at a trade school or military background. It's turning wrenches |
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http://www.ihs-gmbh.de/images/blog/laser-china/chinesische-arbeiter-einzelkontrolle-fabrik.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4FLBtQC0F0c/hqdefault.jpg Those robots look an awful lot like people. View Quote |
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Hell for the sake of the argument I will even agree with you on and can even says all of them will be engineering and technical jobs....that still leaves no manufacturing jobs created for the blue collar working class. Those with meaningful college education, specially technically degrees have no problem finding jobs as is. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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I work in the industry and you are very wrong. Most of the jobs will be in engineering and technicians to maintain the equipment and robotics. It's kind of a big deal to make leading edge semiconductors. Hell for the sake of the argument I will even agree with you on and can even says all of them will be engineering and technical jobs....that still leaves no manufacturing jobs created for the blue collar working class. Those with meaningful college education, specially technically degrees have no problem finding jobs as is. Would you like Intel to start making model-t Fords to make you feel better, crybaby? |
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http://www.ihs-gmbh.de/images/blog/laser-china/chinesische-arbeiter-einzelkontrolle-fabrik.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4FLBtQC0F0c/hqdefault.jpg Those robots look an awful lot like people. View Quote Why are posting pictures of Foxconn's iPhone assembly line in China ? Because that's what you posted. |
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1. The deal was inked under 0bama's watch. 2. Only 3,000 crappy jobs? What is Trump going to do, talk to/call every company in America? 3. The government isn't in the business of picking winners and losers. 4. What about the free market? |
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Technician is more of a technical blue colar job. It's an hourly pay job and many have two year degrees at a trade school or military background. It's turning wrenches View Quote Yes it is turning wrenches, In much the same way a surgeon is a person who operates a knife. I've done a lot of industrial controls. the minimum qualifications you listed, Good for around 75k to start. Can make up to 250k a year "Turning wrenches". |
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Yes it is turning wrenches, In much the same way a surgeon is a person who operates a knife. I've done a lot of industrial controls. the minimum qualifications you listed, Good for around 75k to start. Can make up to 250k a year "Turning wrenches". View Quote Hey surgeons also never went beyond High school diploma before they started practicing! |
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Yes it is turning wrenches, In much the same way a surgeon is a person who operates a knife. I've done a lot of industrial controls. the minimum qualifications you listed, Good for around 75k to start. Can make up to 250k a year "Turning wrenches". View Quote I didn't mean it as a slight, I have a lot of respect for the work they do and it pays well. I'm just saying there are a lot of people working in the fab doing routine maintenance like replacing quartz kits and cleaning process chambers that isn't dependant on college degrees but still requires very skilled workers turning wrenches and I think it would still be considered blue collar work. |
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Yes it is turning wrenches, In much the same way a surgeon is a person who operates a knife. I've done a lot of industrial controls. the minimum qualifications you listed, Good for around 75k to start. Can make up to 250k a year "Turning wrenches". View Quote I can tell that you've never set foot in any fab on the Chandler campus. Or even walked thru the laaaarge parking lots. Just the number of pipefitters & plumbers it takes to do routine maintenance/upgrades in the place is impressive. You could easily classify those trades as "wrench turners" if you like. And the electricians, the millwrights, the carpenters, etc. Not to even mention the huge economic impact the construction creates. And, construction on an Intel property is really, something else. Fab 42 had 7000 or so building trades hands on site at it's peak. The dollars pumped into the Arizona economy thru building and running a Fab is enormous. |
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In before: 1. The deal was inked under 0bama's watch. 2. Only 3,000 crappy jobs? What is Trump going to do, talk to/call every company in America? 3. The government isn't in the business of picking winners and losers. 4. What about the free market? View Quote Almost! Just a little late. |
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More like 2,987 jobs will go to foreign H1B visa holders. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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2,998 of the jobs will go to illegals More like 2,987 jobs will go to foreign H1B visa holders. More like Trump's immigration policies with respect to H1B visas will cause the collapse of the tech industry and there will be no jobs for anyone. |
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Uh, dont cell phones have chips in them ? I was showing pictures of facilities that manufacture chips where there are people working inside. seriously Soros needs some better CTR shills.
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