Mossberg 590A1 or Remington 870, Choose and why

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Posted: 2/19/2017 12:25:35 AM EDT

I've got an itch for a new pump shotgun.

Which one and why would you choose that model?

Posted: 2/19/2017 12:26:33 AM EDT

[#1]

Both.
Because.
And get a Benelli while you're at it.

Posted: 2/19/2017 12:27:24 AM EDT

[#2]

1300 Defender.

Posted: 2/19/2017 12:27:59 AM EDT

[#3]

I like the safety location on the Mossberg.

I own several examples of both and I usually pick the Mossberg.

Posted: 2/19/2017 12:28:26 AM EDT

[#4]

Because when I was faced with that decision, I went with the 590. Mine has the Speedfeed stock, and the price was better.

YMMV.

Posted: 2/19/2017 12:28:54 AM EDT

[#5]

My 590a1 is a great gun, solid and not unwieldy.

Posted: 2/19/2017 12:31:01 AM EDT

[#6]

Unless the 870 is an older Police Model, I would go with the A1 in 18.5".

Posted: 2/19/2017 12:31:06 AM EDT

[#7]

Posted: 2/19/2017 12:31:43 AM EDT

[#8]

I would like to hijack your thread and go Mariner vs Marine or any saltwater capable choice.

Posted: 2/19/2017 12:31:43 AM EDT

[#9]

I'm waiting on the Shockwave

Posted: 2/19/2017 12:32:16 AM EDT

[#10]

590. Safety is in a better place for me.

Plus they had exactly the configuration I wanted without trying to hunt down a non shit finish used police trade in.

Mine is parkerized taken a beating, not a spot of corrosion.

Posted: 2/19/2017 12:32:28 AM EDT

[#11]

I want the one that can mount a bayonet, because reasons.

Posted: 2/19/2017 12:32:37 AM EDT

[#12]

Does the Remington come with a bayonet lug? Fuck no it doesn't!

Posted: 2/19/2017 12:33:09 AM EDT

[#13]

I like the 500 series because they are lighter and more affordable. I also like the tang safety.

I never cared for crossbolt safeties behind the trigger.

That's JMO.

ETA: My 590 holds 19 rounds.

Posted: 2/19/2017 12:34:00 AM EDT

[#14]

590A1 because that is what I have.

Posted: 2/19/2017 12:34:08 AM EDT

[#15]

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Unless the 870 is an older Police Model, I would go with the A1 in 18.5".

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Posted: 2/19/2017 12:35:19 AM EDT

[#16]

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I'm waiting on the Shockwave

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On my want list.

Posted: 2/19/2017 12:35:44 AM EDT

[#17]

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I like the safety location on the Mossberg.

I own several examples of both and I usually pick the Mossberg.

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The tang safety is the tits. I own both a 590 HD gun and an 870 hunting gun. While the 870 gets more use due to it being a hunting gun (it was my first shotgun incidentally), I like the 590 better because of that safety and because it just looks cooler.

Posted: 2/19/2017 12:36:26 AM EDT

[#18]

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One of dem next.

Posted: 2/19/2017 12:36:30 AM EDT

[#19]

590 because of the tang safety (ambi) user replaceable ejector and no staked in shell stops. Lifter adapter available for mini shells too.

Posted: 2/19/2017 12:37:26 AM EDT

[#20]

I'd buy the 590A1 simply because I already have 870's and would want a different flavour.

Maybe because 590's its ejector is easily replaceable versus 870 pinned, but I've never seen one go down because of an ejector failure.

Otherwise, 870 for its vast aftermarket of parts and accessories.

Posted: 2/19/2017 12:37:56 AM EDT

[#21]

590A1, because I've seen the solder holding the 870 barrel ring into the barrel break off while a guy at the range was shooting it.

dont have that picture uploaded, sorry

Posted: 2/19/2017 12:40:07 AM EDT

[#22]

The 590A1 has a bayonet lug.

How to KILL with a Bayonet!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxFgSmR0i3A

Posted: 2/19/2017 12:41:22 AM EDT

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Posted: 2/19/2017 12:41:29 AM EDT

[#24]

I know they're available online, but I have a deposit on a 590a1 through my LGS and even though it's been 2 weeks, they still haven't heard from their distributor when they'll be getting the shotgun in. I don't think it's the retailer either because out of curiosity, I asked around and the other stores in the area couldn't give me an ETA on getting one in.

Posted: 2/19/2017 12:43:28 AM EDT

[#25]

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I like the safety location on the Mossberg.

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Posted: 2/19/2017 12:43:35 AM EDT

[#26]

The 590A1 is a much better gun than the 870 express. Remington QC has gone downhill in the last few decades. Their police line is still ok. I wouldn't buy either gun new though. There are always some good used riot guns for sale.

Summit Guns has some old 870 Police Magnums for sale on their front page. Don't forget to look at their riot gun page too.

Also ~~Bama~~ was talking about gun shop he deals with that gets a lot of police/riot guns. Let me look for the post.
It was John Wayne and Southern Ohio Gun.
Also you could wait for the Mossberg Shockwave.

Posted: 2/19/2017 12:43:42 AM EDT

[#27]

I prefer the Ithaca 37 over the 870 but since aftermarket is almost nonexistent for the Ithaca I also have an 870 Police.

Posted: 2/19/2017 12:44:48 AM EDT

[#28]

Shockwave or bust.

Posted: 2/19/2017 12:46:45 AM EDT

[#29]

590a1

Because...Pew..Pew..Pew...STABBY STABBY!!!!

Posted: 2/19/2017 12:50:50 AM EDT

[#30]

And get one of these.

Extended safety.

Posted: 2/19/2017 12:52:02 AM EDT

[#31]

870

The answer is always 870

Because I grew up shooting the 870 so much so that wood stocked 870s come up and shoulder like they were custom fit to me. No other shotgun does. Not even synthetic stocked 870s or wood stocked 1100/1187s. Those are close but not quite as good.

Posted: 2/19/2017 12:52:50 AM EDT

[#32]

Mossberg's safety is better and the always up lifter is easier to load quickly unless you're quad loading, in that case the lack of a ramp from the lifter makes it much trickier. Screw vs rivet on the ejector is another plus for Mossberg. I like the Mossberg's slide release lever location better. Finally, the easily removeable magazine tube is a plus to me.

Posted: 2/19/2017 12:53:58 AM EDT

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Sexy.

Like that short stock.

Posted: 2/19/2017 12:59:21 AM EDT

[#34]

I have a 590A1. I am about 6' tall. The thing feels really long compared to an 870 or 1200/1300.

Just saying. The 590A1is always by my side.

Posted: 2/19/2017 1:00:35 AM EDT

[#35]

I used to be a huge Remington guy but lately seeing what they are letting out I have to say 590A1 all the way.

Posted: 2/19/2017 1:01:00 AM EDT

[#36]

I have owned both, at the same time. Both perfectly configured for fighting.
I have sold all my 870 fighting guns and now only own 1 fighting shotgun, the 590A1.

As far as "which one", they are literally perfectly equal with one tiny difference: the tang mount safety on the 590A1 gives it the edge.

I find tang mounts faster and easier to manipulate quickly, from both right and left side. I'm a lefty but shoot long guns equally well from either side and I have a hard time with the button safety on the Rem. cause I switch hands a lot, I have to remember which side I"m on to remember which way to press it. I also find it slightly awkward to manipulate.

So I wind up just never using the safety on my 870's.

The 590A1 I can work the safety very fast, and it works the same from either side. it also feels just *slightly* heavier built than the 870. Functionally it's probably not, but feels slightly "tougher". Totally subjective but having owned 2 of each in fighting configs, the Mossberg feels a little better built, but that safety was a clear differentiator for me.

I'm out of the fighting shotgun game, I decided carbines work better for me so I am down to 1 fighting shotgun, the 590A1 I stole from a guy for 250 when he was trying to fund another project.

Posted: 2/19/2017 1:02:17 AM EDT

[#37]

I like my 870
Wouldn't mind a 590

Posted: 2/19/2017 1:03:21 AM EDT

[#38]

These days remington sucks

Mossberg because bayonet. I love my 870 Marine Magnum though.

Posted: 2/19/2017 1:03:53 AM EDT

[#39]

Cool, keep the votes and replies coming..........

Posted: 2/19/2017 1:04:16 AM EDT

[#40]

Mossy for the safety. ..

Posted: 2/19/2017 1:05:11 AM EDT

[#41]

590A1. The 870 is a great shotgun but I prefer the position of the safety and bolt release on the 590.

Posted: 2/19/2017 1:33:00 AM EDT

[#42]

Mossberg 590 with the speed feed stock, but if the SHTF, I'll grab my Benelli M4!

Posted: 2/19/2017 1:34:13 AM EDT

[#43]

590a1 is built well.

Bayonet.

Remington is crap, why waste your money?

Posted: 2/19/2017 1:35:08 AM EDT

[#44]

20" 590A1, XS tritium front bead jb welded on, magpul furniture, singe point sling.
It's a pump shot gun. Not much to it but I like the way I have this thing set up. I sure don't baby it.

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Posted: 2/19/2017 1:36:16 AM EDT

[#45]

500/590.

Better pump release location
No loading lever to pinch your fingers
Better safety location

Those 3 alone seal the deal for me. I can't stand 870s at all...you have to move your hand up to hit the pump release, and I always pinch my fingers when I load them.

Posted: 2/19/2017 1:37:53 AM EDT

[#46]

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These days remington sucks

Mossberg because bayonet. I love my 870 Marine Magnum though.

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I'm listening

Posted: 2/19/2017 1:41:32 AM EDT

[#47]

Have 2 590A1s.
Sold the 870.

Posted: 2/19/2017 1:54:21 AM EDT

[#48]

Back in the day....

MSG was issued the 870P, and the M590 was just adopted.

Brand new 870's were dropping like flies in the training cycle at Mare island.
The 590's had minor issues after many cycles, and more Buck and Chill than is sane.
The day the 870's got boxed up and sent to hell, was a good day.
Just keeping shell stops staked in the 870's was a major PITA for the 2111's.

870's are damn good Fudd guns, and are solid when Remmie gives a shit.
The problem is, Remmie hasn't given a good Goddamn for over 20 years, and the China copy 870's are better made in many aspects.
Todays 870, is NOT the same as it was in the late 60's and 70's.

Then there is the stupid safety...Remmie ignored south paws, and folks that have to wear gloves...or god forbid, actually use the thing outside of the Trap range.
Mossberg got it right the first damn time.

Posted: 2/19/2017 1:58:09 AM EDT

[#49]

Another vote for the Mossberg 590A1 here. Being a "Lefty", the location of the safety works better for me. I gave my 590A1 to my son-in-law a while back. I just replaced it with an 835 (with a few mods):

Posted: 2/19/2017 2:02:27 AM EDT

[#50]

Where do you like your safety is the real question.

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