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Posted: 4/19/2017 11:44:38 AM EST
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Which ones besides the social security one? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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He's repealed Obama Gun EOs. |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 1:10:36 PM EST
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And you believe them and our media? Want to buy my oceanfront ranch? Located just outside lovely Witchita, KS, great price, act now! Ahmed Chalabi told us that iraqis hated muslims, craved freedom, that iraqis would elect him president and lay down a path of rose petals for troops, if only we would act. As for sk - yes they are nothing more than our dependents and their gov / media will say / do whatever we tell them too - else that juicy foreign aid stops. US media and gubbamint need their created rivalry, it keeps morons distracted and their fat defense cash spigot wide open. In the end, the American taxpayer pays for ALL of it and gets absolutely nothing but BF'd in return. |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 1:44:30 PM EST
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Put Americans back to work buy American. That is what the Donald ran on.  Not saying I wouldn't want to see it, but it would conflict with other campaign promises. This year should be the worst, maybe wait until next year. |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 1:50:39 PM EST
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Ever since I was 13, I've known about the import ban and wanted it lifted so badly. American gun manufacturers are going to be hurting big time with Trump's election killing off demand. Lifting the import ban would put a lot of companies under and put Americans out of work. Not saying I wouldn't want to see it, but it would conflict with other campaign promises. This year should be the worst, maybe wait until next year. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Put Americans back to work buy American. That is what the Donald ran on. Not saying I wouldn't want to see it, but it would conflict with other campaign promises. This year should be the worst, maybe wait until next year. |
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Posted: 4/19/2017 2:22:35 PM EST
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korea is not an ally. Dependent yes, ally no. Those little commies would turn on us in a nano-second if we stop sending planes stuffed with cash. |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 11:23:02 AM EST
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American Gun Companies supported Bush for the Import Ban |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 11:29:16 AM EST
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korea is not an ally. Dependent yes, ally no. Those little commies would turn on us in a nano-second if we stop sending planes stuffed with cash. 
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Posted: 4/20/2017 11:29:57 AM EST
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https://preview.ibb.co/mbd11Q/IMG_5788.jpg Civilian versions of the Daewoo were imported into the United States up until 1997. The AR-100 and Max II were imported up until 1989 when their import was banned by an Executive Order by President George H. W. Bush. Any Daewoo of the K1, K2, or AR-100 type were effected by the ban. The Clinton assault weapon ban listed both the AR-100 and AR-100c. Among the importers of the Daewoo were B-West of Tucson, AZ and Kimber of America of Clackamas, OR (predecessor to today's Kimber). The last models imported were the DR-200 in 5.56 and the DR-300 in 7.62x39. $300 in 1997 is roughly $460 today adjusting only for inflation. ... Look at the price of the 5.56 ammo! |
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Posted: 4/20/2017 11:37:37 AM EST
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https://preview.ibb.co/mbd11Q/IMG_5788.jpg Civilian versions of the Daewoo were imported into the United States up until 1997. The AR-100 and Max II were imported up until 1989 when their import was banned by an Executive Order by President George H. W. Bush. Any Daewoo of the K1, K2, or AR-100 type were effected by the ban. The Clinton assault weapon ban listed both the AR-100 and AR-100c. Among the importers of the Daewoo were B-West of Tucson, AZ and Kimber of America of Clackamas, OR (predecessor to today's Kimber). The last models imported were the DR-200 in 5.56 and the DR-300 in 7.62x39. $300 in 1997 is roughly $460 today adjusting only for inflation. I remember those. I had saved up to buy one (after looking at that a previous gun show) went to buy one and the dealer was all out - never got any more in stock. Ended up saving up some more and got an AR instead. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 8:24:34 AM EST
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And will support future ones too. Dasan USA with a licensing agreement would probally be our best hope. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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American Gun Companies supported Bush for the Import Ban |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 8:56:06 AM EST
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Posted: 4/21/2017 12:48:50 PM EST
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Sure wouldn't mind seeing a few of the used military ones end up as parts kits over here.
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Posted: 4/21/2017 12:57:36 PM EST
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Odd looking things. Don't care. Trump has better things to do.
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Posted: 4/21/2017 1:03:28 PM EST
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Odd looking things. Don't care. Trump has better things to do. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 1:04:27 PM EST
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If you're dreaming,dream bigly
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Posted: 4/21/2017 1:05:21 PM EST
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I had a Kimber marked DR200.
Loved it, very accurate with 55gr ammo. It came with a butthole stock, but a couple of hours with a saw,file and sandpaper fixed it right up. The only problem I thought it had was the 180 * rotation of the safety. Ended up selling it because of lack of spare parts. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 1:06:00 PM EST
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'Woos are awesome rifles.
I hope the import ban is done away with and the ATF is forced to allow AK kits to be imported with barrels. Still millions of kits out there to be imported. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 1:09:34 PM EST
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Need to remove ALL importation bans.
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Posted: 4/21/2017 1:45:15 PM EST
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Odd looking things. Don't care. Trump has better things to do. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 1:58:08 PM EST
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If you're dreaming,dream bigly http://sadefensejournal.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/k11_2.jpg 
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Posted: 4/21/2017 2:01:29 PM EST
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The import ban is not an EO or ATF policy. It was passed by Congress and signed into law.
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Posted: 4/21/2017 2:03:41 PM EST
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Probably have about as good a chance as hpa passing
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Posted: 4/21/2017 2:30:21 PM EST
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The import ban is not an EO or ATF policy. It was passed by Congress and signed into law. The ATF has changed the definition of "non sporting" such that rifles like the Daewoo and HK series could no longer be imported. Were these changes due to a change in ATF leadership and/or direction from POTUS? |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 2:34:04 PM EST
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Allowing Daewoo rifles into the country would hurt American jobs. We need to hire American and buy American.
Amirite? FORWARD to MAGA! |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 2:35:37 PM EST
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IIRC (please correct me if I'm wrong) the import bans stems from the GCA of 1968. In which 'non sporting' firearms could not be imported. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The import ban is not an EO or ATF policy. It was passed by Congress and signed into law. It was later passed by Congress and signed into law during the Clinton administration, Title 18 USC 922R. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 3:07:57 PM EST
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The import ban is not an EO or ATF policy. It was passed by Congress and signed into law. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 3:09:39 PM EST
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The import AW ban was first implemented by GHW Bush in 1989 as an executive order. It was later passed by Congress and signed into law during the Clinton administration, Title 18 USC 922R. Get the Sec Treas or whoever now has that authority to change the list and guess what? You unban it with the stroke of a pen. And the Unesold Amendment was passed under Bush the elder. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 3:12:56 PM EST
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This shit makes me wonder about the communication going on between now Donald Jr and the President. These bans could have been lifted by now. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 3:38:22 PM EST
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IIRC (please correct me if I'm wrong) the import bans stems from the GCA of 1968. In which 'non sporting' firearms could not be imported. The ATF has changed the definition of "non sporting" such that rifles like the Daewoo and HK series could no longer be imported. Were these changes due to a change in ATF leadership and/or direction from POTUS? |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 5:22:34 PM EST
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An EO could undo some of the ATF's creative defining of "sporting" but the law does explicitly exclude military surplus firearms. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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IIRC (please correct me if I'm wrong) the import bans stems from the GCA of 1968. In which 'non sporting' firearms could not be imported. The ATF has changed the definition of "non sporting" such that rifles like the Daewoo and HK series could no longer be imported. Were these changes due to a change in ATF leadership and/or direction from POTUS? |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 9:20:47 PM EST
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The import ban is not an EO or ATF policy. It was passed by Congress and signed into law. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 9:27:58 PM EST
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The import AW ban was first implemented by GHW Bush in 1989 as an executive order. It was later passed by Congress and signed into law during the Clinton administration, Title 18 USC 922R. If you quote 18 USC 925D(3) you'd still be wrong, but at least you'd be closer. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 9:31:48 PM EST
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Rename them Hyundai 100s or Hyosongs 110s, and reimport!
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Posted: 4/21/2017 9:51:57 PM EST
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I feel that we shouldn't skew the S. Korean market. Our civilian demand in the USA will probably push prices up.
The civilians of S. Korean needs those rifles. Now more than ever. Yup....you know what I'm talking about. Their civilian population needs to defend themselves against the invasion to come. They shouldn't just count on the professional military (theirs and/or ours) to defend their nation. If their own government don't want their own civilians owning a rifle (even semi-auto only)..... Then, F#*^ It. They deserve what's to come. I have no love for a country where only the police and military is allowed to have arms. And, I have no interest in seeing America's youth fighting in a country such as that. The S. Koreans have had plenty of time to think about it. Just my $0.02. Aloha, Mark PS....Yes, I remember them. NO, I didn't WANT them. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 9:57:32 PM EST
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korea is not an ally. Dependent yes, ally no. Those little commies would turn on us in a nano-second if we stop sending planes stuffed with cash. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You do realize we must stand in solidarity with our RoK allies? Go spew your crap somewhere else. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 10:07:38 PM EST
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The South Koreans fought with us as allies in the Vietnam war. Go spew your crap somewhere else. Yes, you are correct that S. Korea was one of several nations that actually fought along side of the S. Viet Namese and the US in VN. That being said...... Just like in America, they had their share of people that wanted their troops out of VN. I suspect that......it'll be those same people and alot more....that will be the first to flee to the USA should KIM cross the border. Over the years, I've spoken to many civilian S. Koreans that have no interest in fighting for their own country. They only want peace (and an ability to make more money). In the long run, they see no difference, as long as it's ONE KOREA. Like, the VN War was about reunification and nationalization of the two Viet Nams. Rrrrright. Anyway......see my above post about sending Americans to fight in a country where their own people won't/can't fight for themselves. Aloha, Mark |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 10:27:36 PM EST
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Quote HistoryWhat seems like a lifetime ago, I actually had one of those registered on my rifle shotgun permit in NYC (boy, have times changed in NY), then the ATF sent me a nice letter telling me they declared it a destructive device that I could not own in NY, that i could return it to the gun store i had purchased it from or arrange for them to pick it up (I guess if i didn't they would have protected & served the fuck out of me), i returned it for a full refund, it sat in their showcase for a few years. I saw one years later for sale fir 50k!
A bit heavy but the fastest shooting shotgun i ever fired, no recoil at all & it could fire a whole drum as fast as an AR15 could fire. Gun gave a whole new definition to the words "Riot Gun", One guy with a few drum mags could probably stop a riot! |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 10:32:10 PM EST
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Giblet industries.
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Posted: 4/21/2017 10:37:06 PM EST
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Giblet industries. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 10:38:23 PM EST
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I think it was Gilbert equipment company. Buck Harless's son started the company to have those made by Daewoo from his place in Alabama. |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 10:44:13 PM EST
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I just want this:
How do we make this happen? |
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Posted: 4/21/2017 11:56:45 PM EST
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I got the ugly thumb hole stock....
 I think I got it for about 3 bills in the 90's.(gas plug missing) Had to make my own gas plug because there was no internet to find one.(That I knew of)
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Posted: 4/22/2017 12:07:06 AM EST
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Seriously thought this was a car thread when I opened it. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/319933/daewoo-190630.jpg My Deawoo rifles I had in the 90s were nice enough but meh there is tons of cooler stuff out there now . DP51 pistol was kinda cool though |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 6:07:08 AM EST
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I feel that we shouldn't skew the S. Korean market. Our civilian demand in the USA will probably push prices up. The civilians of S. Korean needs those rifles. Now more than ever. Yup....you know what I'm talking about. Their civilian population needs to defend themselves against the invasion to come. They shouldn't just count on the professional military (theirs and/or ours) to defend their nation. If their own government don't want their own civilians owning a rifle (even semi-auto only)..... Then, F#*^ It. They deserve what's to come. I have no love for a country where only the police and military is allowed to have arms. And, I have no interest in seeing America's youth fighting in a country such as that. The S. Koreans have had plenty of time to think about it. Just my $0.02. Aloha, Mark PS....Yes, I remember them. NO, I didn't WANT them. |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 6:34:50 AM EST
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South Korea is in the same predicament we were in the 60's. The young generation just wants "Stability above All". They don't want conflict, don't care about the DPRK, they just want to live for the here and now....
Stability Above All is China's unofficial motto......no doubt there are some hard corps bad asses in SK, but they lost their mojo, and there is a huge influx of SK here in Beijing.... Korea's fucked unless we do their dirty work. Japan still wants to rumble, and Vietnam hates the Chinese, ergo Best Korea. See the possibilities? Hopefully the God Emperor (The President) can manipulate these countries into doing our dirty work. Or at least helping.. |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 6:37:20 AM EST
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Oh, back on topic. Daewoo parts kits for all, Americans build the lower receiver, we win......Magpul can too....
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Posted: 4/22/2017 6:46:50 AM EST
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korea is not an ally. Dependent yes, ally no. Those little commies would turn on us in a nano-second if we stop sending planes stuffed with cash. Quote HistoryQuoted:
korea is not an ally. Dependent yes, ally no. Those little commies would turn on us in a nano-second if we stop sending planes stuffed with cash. The Republic of Korea (South Korea), under the administration of Park Chung-hee, took an active role in the Vietnam War. From 1964 to 1973, South Korea sent more than 300,000 troops to Vietnam. The South Korean Army, Marine Corps, Navy, and Air Force all participated as an ally of the United States. The number of troops from South Korea was much greater than those from Australia and New Zealand, and second only to the U.S. military force. The military commander was Lieutenant General Chae Myung-shin, ROK Army.
TypeWar LocationRepublic of Vietnam ObjectiveTo support South Vietnam against Communist attacks Date1964 – 1973 Executed byApproximately 320,000 military personnel, with an average of 48,000 per year. Casualties 5,099 KIA, ~10,962 WIA 41,000 enemies were killed. |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 6:49:19 AM EST
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South Korea is in the same predicament we were in the 60's. The young generation just wants "Stability above All". They don't want conflict, don't care about the DPRK, they just want to live for the here and now.... Stability Above All is China's unofficial motto......no doubt there are some hard corps bad asses in SK, but they lost their mojo, and there is a huge influx of SK here in Beijing.... Korea's fucked unless we do their dirty work. Japan still wants to rumble, and Vietnam hates the Chinese, ergo Best Korea. See the possibilities? Hopefully the God Emperor (The President) can manipulate these countries into doing our dirty work. Or at least helping.. The ROK supported the US in Vietnam for a number of reasons. Their fear of communism expanding but also the fact that Park Chung-hee ran the show from 1961 to 1979 and that he traded US investment into the ROK bith economically and militarily for combat troops in Vietnam. As for not caring about the DPRK. Culturally they're different now. Much like the reunification of Germany was an economic disaster. Reunifying Korea would make that seem like an economic miracle. The ROK and DPRK are two different peoples now. Hell, come to Miami. A Cuban that fled in 1961 and a Cuban that fled in 2016 have very little in common except for long term connection. In terms of actual cultural ones. Slim to none. Even West Virginia and Virginia are different places. Having the ROK take over the DPRK would be a fucking nightmare and I actually support keeping 'em separate from a logical standpoint. Right now the ROK is pretty much in the same shit like the rest of the Western World is. Economic crisis, corruption in politics/government, continued drain on the economy due to baby boomers retiring and less millennials in their place to pay for it, and a complete detachment of the population from armed global affairs. |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 10:48:26 AM EST
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Right, but I am comparing South Korea's social-economic issues in 2017 to the U.S. social-economic issues in 1968. South Korea is happy with their status in Asia, and the majority don't care about the DPRK. If this goes hot (it wont), South Korea can't get the hard troops they need to go up against the DPRK, without the U.S.
China is courting SK, and the South Korean business community is throwing in with Beijing. If we go, it's the U.S., maybe Japan, that's it. I live here, it's a shit show. |
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Posted: 4/22/2017 11:02:09 AM EST
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Right, but I am comparing South Korea's social-economic issues in 2017 to the U.S. social-economic issues in 1968. South Korea is happy with their status in Asia, and the majority don't care about the DPRK. If this goes hot (it wont), South Korea can't get the hard troops they need to go up against the DPRK, without the U.S. China is courting SK, and the South Korean business community is throwing in with Beijing. If we go, it's the U.S., maybe Japan, that's it. I live here, it's a shit show. |
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