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Posted: 4/29/2017 11:10:58 PM EDT

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Looks oddly non-ergonomic.

Posted: 4/29/2017 11:24:59 PM EDT

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Nice launcher, but those folks must be genetically engineered to not provide anything with a cheek weld.

Posted: 4/29/2017 11:29:26 PM EDT

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The China Lake launcher was larger though, and had enough problems that it didn't remain in use long.

Internet says the LPO-97 is a newer launcher than the GM-94, adopted late 2007. Looks like it might hold more rounds.

From a brief on the GM-94: http://armamentresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/The-Russian-GM-94-Grenade-Launcher.pdf
Initially, GM-94 launchers were issued to specialised tactical units of the Russian MVD,such as SOBR (????; ??????????? ????????????? ????????????; Special Rapid ReactionUnit). These weapons are assigned to specificoperators who qualify with them, and aredeployed during missions where high intensity,short-range engagements are a possibility.Originally, LPO-97 grenade launchers wereissued to RHBZ units, which then temporarilyassign appropriately armed personnel to infantryand other units as required. However, in 2012 theRussian army issued a tender for 50 LPO-97grenade launchers and 2,500 rounds of VGM93ammunition for issue to the 45th Detached ReconnaissanceRegiment (airborne) (Zakupki.gov.ru,n.d.). The GM-94 has seen regular use inengagements targeting pro-Chechen militants,including during high-profile operations in theCaucasus city of Nalchik, in 2005. Russianmilitary forces employed the GM-94 during asuccessful operation to free two hostages held bypro-Chechen militants in Nalchik, in October 2005(BBC, 2005).

Posted: 4/29/2017 11:40:34 PM EDT

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It's pretty cool, but we did that back in the 60's.

http://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/100005/China-Lake-4x40-REMOV-198376.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Lake_grenade_launcher

We also had the XM1060 thermobaric 40mm back in 2003. Dunno if that's still a thing.

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First thing I thought of. We also had experimental semi auto grenade launchers attached to flechette guns in the 1960s

If I recall correctly the Flachette gun had a 60 round ~~box~~ drum magazine, and a muzzle velocity well over 4000FPS.

Can't member how many grenades the launcher held. probably 5 or 6 3.

Feast thy eyes on dees cool ass thingys.

http://modernfirearms.net/assault/usa/spiw-e.html

Posted: 4/30/2017 12:00:17 AM EDT

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5:36, I'd hate to be the poor bastard clearing rooms with an RPK. Though if you have a comrade with the GM-94 apparently it's a non-issue.

Posted: 4/30/2017 12:08:59 AM EDT

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And the hostages?

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In Russia, hostages get YOU killed.

Posted: 4/30/2017 12:14:04 AM EDT

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Pump action makes so much more sense than the stupid rotary design for repeating grenade launchers.

Posted: 4/30/2017 6:23:26 AM EDT

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As an entry weapon as shown - When you absolutely need to burn down the building you are in.

Posted: 4/30/2017 6:36:30 AM EDT

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Is it made by Wham-O?

Posted: 4/30/2017 6:41:38 AM EDT

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Chris Ryan had a pop a few years back and enjoyed it.
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Chris Ryan: GM-94 Grenade Launcher

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OOMMozYzt0g

Posted: 4/30/2017 6:46:00 AM EDT

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That must be the Russian equivalent of Kel-Tec

Posted: 4/30/2017 6:55:02 AM EDT

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I wish I would've had one of those for the noisy red squirrels in the attic of my old house.

Posted: 4/30/2017 6:57:38 AM EDT

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It's pretty cool, but we did that back in the 60's.

http://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/100005/China-Lake-4x40-REMOV-198376.jpg
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Lake_grenade_launcher

We also had the XM1060 thermobaric 40mm back in 2003. Dunno if that's still a thing.

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Cool, never seen that before

Posted: 4/30/2017 2:23:26 PM EDT

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Why do US soldiers look like FAGS, loaded down with tech CRAP, compared to Soviet soldiers? The US military needs REAL men, fuck new age weapons!

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Something something about bags of dicks.....

Posted: 4/30/2017 2:27:09 PM EDT

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how is this any different than a 40mm white phosphorus round?

also isn't use of it illegal under Geneva? Not that i give a shit about them

Posted: 4/30/2017 2:28:02 PM EDT

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Pump action makes so much more sense than the stupid rotary design for repeating grenade launchers.

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Yeah, faster shots, simpler operation, and ammo capacity is for suckas.

Posted: 4/30/2017 2:30:05 PM EDT

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Yeah, faster shots, simpler operation, and ammo capacity is for suckas.

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Pump action makes so much more sense than the stupid rotary design for repeating grenade launchers.

Yeah, faster shots, simpler operation, and ammo capacity is for suckas.

Smaller, lighter, more rugged, ability to reload on the fly.

If you do the math you end up with a system half the size and only lose 16-33% of capacity depending on the rounds used. Less with the low velocity version and more with the medium velocity grenades.

Posted: 4/30/2017 2:31:49 PM EDT

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C'mon, man. Back this America-hating Russophile up again.

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Meh... Russia, go be poor somewhere else.

http://www.soldierweapons.ru/Foto_3/Milkor/1.jpg

Why do US soldiers look like FAGS, loaded down with tech CRAP, compared to Soviet soldiers? The US military needs REAL men, fuck new age weapons!

@Rooster-Cogburn

C'mon, man. Back this America-hating Russophile up again.

I'm just honest. We can all sit back and laugh at obviously ignorant and outlandish Russian propaganda like this.

I also happen to have the ability to laugh at outlandish US propaganda, and the Russian propaganda that bashes the US and happens to be true. There are lots of people on ARF that are the US equivalent of Russian propagandist, who are loathe to admit that 87% of the modern US military is the DMV in uniform. I take a little too much pleasure in rustling their jimmies with hard realities.

Posted: 4/30/2017 2:33:33 PM EDT

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I'll be more than happy to try one and for testing at the nearest ANTIFA get together

Posted: 4/30/2017 2:35:14 PM EDT

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That must be the Russian equivalent of Kel-Tec

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The best Russian shit wishes they could design and build to the quality of Kel-Tec.

And yes I do realize that Kel-Tec is absolute shit.

Posted: 4/30/2017 2:36:25 PM EDT

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Smaller, lighter, more rugged, ability to reload on the fly.

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Narrower, not lighter, more susceptible to debris, needs to be reloaded more often.

Milkor kicks its ass.

Posted: 4/30/2017 2:39:25 PM EDT

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That commercial would fit right into this lineup:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LKQ3eX9pEg

Posted: 4/30/2017 2:39:57 PM EDT

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Narrower, not lighter, more susceptible to debris, needs to be reloaded more often.

Milkor kicks its ass.

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No, lighter, the milkor is a pig. The China Lake is half the weight and that could be improved upon. Also the Milkor breaks, a lot, and because of that it spends a lot of time in the truck instead of in the hands of the guys who might need it.

You ever actually used the thing?

Posted: 4/30/2017 2:44:36 PM EDT

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No, lighter, the milkor is a pig. The China Lake is half the weight and that could be improved upon. Also the Milkor breaks, a lot, and because of that it spends a lot of time in the truck instead of in the hands of the guys who might need it.

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The video itself says the thing weighs 5.2kg... which is the same as MGL.

China Lake was re-booted and improved by Airtronic and Trident about 10 years ago. 1st World armies weren't impressed, they bought the Milkor.

M320 or an updated M79 make more sense than either, really. With proper gear and training very nearly as fast as a pump action, much smaller and lighter, and better ammo versatility.

Posted: 4/30/2017 2:46:45 PM EDT

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The video itself says the thing weighs 5.2kg... which is the same as MGL.

China Lake was re-booted and improved by Airtronic and Trident about 10 years ago. 1st World armies weren't impressed, they bought the Milkor.

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No, lighter, the milkor is a pig. The China Lake is half the weight and that could be improved upon. Also the Milkor breaks, a lot, and because of that it spends a lot of time in the truck instead of in the hands of the guys who might need it.

The video itself says the thing weighs 5.2kg... which is the same as MGL.

China Lake was re-booted and improved by Airtronic and Trident about 10 years ago. 1st World armies weren't impressed, they bought the Milkor.

Military procurement isn't based on how good the weapon is, it's based on who greases the most palms.

Posted: 4/30/2017 2:52:07 PM EDT

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Not a shotgun

Posted: 4/30/2017 2:53:23 PM EDT

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it's not the launcher that's interesting; it's the thermobaric grenades

Posted: 4/30/2017 2:54:21 PM EDT

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FPNI

Posted: 4/30/2017 2:55:40 PM EDT

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it's not the launcher that's interesting; it's the thermobaric grenades

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XM1060... we do a thermobaric in 40mm as well. I don't know if it's actually fielded or not.

Posted: 4/30/2017 3:32:01 PM EDT

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Meh... Russia, go be poor somewhere else.

http://www.soldierweapons.ru/Foto_3/Milkor/1.jpg

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I know everything Russian belongs in a trashcan, but what would happen in the case of a delayed ignition in the above platform vs the GM-94?
The pump configuration seem better for the same reasons we don't see rotary shotguns as often.

Posted: 4/30/2017 3:38:51 PM EDT

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Posted: 4/30/2017 4:31:06 PM EDT

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Oh man that poor bastid guarding the fuel dump.

Posted: 4/30/2017 4:38:54 PM EDT

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Why do US soldiers look like FAGS, loaded down with tech CRAP, compared to Soviet soldiers? The US military needs REAL men, fuck new age weapons!

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Posted: 4/30/2017 4:48:16 PM EDT

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Why do US soldiers look like FAGS, loaded down with tech CRAP, compared to Soviet soldiers? The US military needs REAL men, fuck new age weapons!

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I guess you haven't seen Russian soldiers lately, they wear all that 'crap' too now, called the Ratnik system. The video in the OP is probably 17 years old.