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Posted: 8/25/2017 9:53:55 AM EST
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apparently they will be available at dealers on the 30th.
Just got done selling all but my last gen 4 19. Made pretty decent money from them so i guess im in for 4 gen 5 19s. |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 10:03:29 AM EST
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The Gen 4 embarrassment will undoubtedly be dropped with Glock aggressively replacing dept. 4s with 5s. Market will flood with used 4s. Moving forward I predict Gen 3 (CA, SOCOM, Vickers) and 5 to be the only lines supported. Imagine the SKU encyclopedia of three generations/sights/MOS/mag capacity.....Jesus. Once current inventory is depleted it would only make sense to have Gen 3 also receive nDLC and new rifling to streamline production and marketing. |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 10:07:35 AM EST
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https://i.makeagif.com/media/3-24-2014/ijqO0E.gif Glock fanbois. 
Sorry guys, I see very little in the way of improvements that would make it worth buying. |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 10:09:13 AM EST
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TFB about the gen 5 glock was bad
 . Gen 5 looks dissapointing to say the least 
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Posted: 8/25/2017 10:11:30 AM EST
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TFB about the gen 5 glock was bad . Gen 5 looks dissapointing to say the least my gen 4s looked like shit after a month or so of being used  im hoping the new nDLC finish is awesome.
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Posted: 8/25/2017 10:23:00 AM EST
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im 90% excited about the finish, 5% about the beveled front end, 5% about the finger grooves going away. my gen 4s looked like shit after a month or so of being used im hoping the new nDLC finish is awesome.Quote HistoryQuoted:
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TFB about the gen 5 glock was bad . Gen 5 looks dissapointing to say the least my gen 4s looked like shit after a month or so of being used im hoping the new nDLC finish is awesome. |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 10:25:10 AM EST
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Out of all that im most excited about finish/ new factory sight options. The no finger grooves is meh to me as I like them. Also the magwel and the cutout to help take out the mag is stupid. Seems like it was designed as the Glock ranger operator rather than upgrade. Oh well sell me them gen 3s cheap ill try and not be dissapointed over here |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 10:35:10 AM EST
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Yup. I've sold off every Gen 2 I've owned because of it. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The cutout to strip mags is sharp and not pleasant after a few mags, much less a few hundred. If there is some aftermarket filler I'll probably get the MOS model. Yeah I turned my gen 2 19 frame into a 26L frame and like it much better now. Just went out and bought a gen 3 frame for times I will use it as a range gun or fighting pistol instead of concealed carry. |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 11:18:48 AM EST
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They didn't fix the ejection.
Brass isn't going very far, and if you look at the 8:00 mark, you'll see brass going out to the left (guy in the black t-shirt).  NEW The 5th Generation GLOCK 17 and 19 Gen5 Pistols: Improving Perfection! (4K UHD) |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 11:31:33 AM EST
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Posted: 8/25/2017 11:35:27 AM EST
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just put in a order for a 19 from an online place and had the lgs put me down for another pre order from them.
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Posted: 8/25/2017 11:44:40 AM EST
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One article, where they actually went to Glock, says only the 17 has the front strap mag cut out. I was wrong and this is great news! I'm not dumping my Gen4's, but I will pick up a Gen5 19.
ETa, I was right, mag cut out on 19, damit. |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 11:46:05 AM EST
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Quote HistoryLooks like the connectors will interchange at least.
- connectors for all. Yayyyy |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 12:03:43 PM EST
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I just got off the phone with glock asking if these new ameriglo sights could be an option if I send in my slide (Just like the old glock night sight option) and was told that they wouldn't say anything until the 30th to call back later.
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Posted: 8/25/2017 12:11:39 PM EST
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Quote History"Glock says the Gen5’s will only be offered in 9mm."
What the fuck? So, they changed almost every part of the gun, their decent cartridge selection is being reduced to one, and nobody has said there's any meaningful improvement in performance. Why bother? |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 12:25:25 PM EST
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"Glock says the Gen5’s will only be offered in 9mm." What the fuck? So, they changed almost every part of the gun, their decent cartridge selection is being reduced to one, and nobody has said there's any meaningful improvement in performance. Why bother? |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 12:31:01 PM EST
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I'm just sumdood on the Web, but I like the look of this. Been hoping Glock would incorporate some of the changes from the "M" into general models.
Not saying I'd dump anything to go grab one, but if I could find 'em (I live in CA right now, so it's pretty much just Gen3 for me), Gen5 would become my standard Glock generation to purchase. That said, I'm sort of a grudging Glock user--mostly it's inertia of training, gear, magazines, etc that keeps me in them. Maybe if I lived in a free state I'd consider switching to something else. But I think this is a positive development overall. |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 12:32:14 PM EST
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Two years until they release a GenV MOS, another 2 years to release the GenV MOS in FDE or OD..........
Maybe I'll get the piece I want by 2021. 
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Posted: 8/25/2017 12:57:41 PM EST
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"Glock says the Gen5’s will only be offered in 9mm." What the fuck? So, they changed almost every part of the gun, their decent cartridge selection is being reduced to one, and nobody has said there's any meaningful improvement in performance. Why bother? Gen 4 was built for 40. Then they screwed it up by trying to make it a 9mm gun. So Gen 5 was built to make up for the deficiencies of the 9mm Gen 4 which was built to make up for the deficiencies of the 40 Gen 3. 
It seems they finally pulled the handbrake on that design merry go round. Gen 5 G34? |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 1:04:06 PM EST
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A 3x increase in mean rounds between failure isn't a meaningful improvement? |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 1:17:31 PM EST
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Gen 3 was built for 9mm. Then they screwed it up by trying to make it a 40 gun Gen 4 was built for 40. Then they screwed it up by trying to make it a 9mm gun. So Gen 5 was built to make up for the deficiencies of the 9mm Gen 4 which was built to make up for the deficiencies of the 40 Gen 3.
It seems they finally pulled the handbrake on that design merry go round. Gen 5 G34? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"Glock says the Gen5’s will only be offered in 9mm." What the fuck? So, they changed almost every part of the gun, their decent cartridge selection is being reduced to one, and nobody has said there's any meaningful improvement in performance. Why bother? Gen 4 was built for 40. Then they screwed it up by trying to make it a 9mm gun. So Gen 5 was built to make up for the deficiencies of the 9mm Gen 4 which was built to make up for the deficiencies of the 40 Gen 3.
It seems they finally pulled the handbrake on that design merry go round. Gen 5 G34? |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 1:19:14 PM EST
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Who the fuck shoots 30k rounds (or even 10K) without cleaning/maintenance? It's a stupid bullet point to anyone except military contract testers or people hunting for reasons to upgrade. |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 1:28:37 PM EST
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Every time Glock releases a new gun it feels like apple release a new iPhone. The fan boys go nuts but in reality is a marginal update.
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Posted: 8/25/2017 1:49:56 PM EST
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Every time Glock releases a new gun it feels like apple release a new iPhone. The fan boys go nuts but in reality is a marginal update. |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 1:55:12 PM EST
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The Gen 4 embarrassment will undoubtedly be dropped with Glock aggressively replacing dept. 4s with 5s. Market will flood with used 4s. Moving forward I predict Gen 3 (CA, SOCOM, Vickers) and 5 to be the only lines supported. Imagine the SKU encyclopedia of three generations/sights/MOS/mag capacity.....Jesus. Once current inventory is depleted it would only make sense to have Gen 3 also receive nDLC and new rifling to streamline production and marketing. |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 2:13:33 PM EST
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I just got off the phone with glock asking if these new ameriglo sights could be an option if I send in my slide (Just like the old glock night sight option) and was told that they wouldn't say anything until the 30th to call back later. See this thread. |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 2:26:03 PM EST
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Ill get a gen 5 19, and make my gen 3 19 a roland special.
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Posted: 8/25/2017 2:28:40 PM EST
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I'll wait for the first few batches to come out and read the reviews.
Might just pick up a cheap gen 4 from someone looking to upgrade to a gen 5. |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 3:09:51 PM EST
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A 3x increase in mean rounds between failure isn't a meaningful improvement? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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"Glock says the Gen5’s will only be offered in 9mm." What the fuck? So, they changed almost every part of the gun, their decent cartridge selection is being reduced to one, and nobody has said there's any meaningful improvement in performance. Why bother? In testing, what were the most common malfunctions experienced by the existing Glock design, and which parts changes mitigated those malfunctions? I've personally experienced stoppages on two different Glocks. One was a very well used G22 that wasn't going into battery because the recoil spring was too soft. The other was a G19 that was experiencing FTEs because it didn't eject for shit. I consider the G22 to be a maintenance problem, and I consider the G19 to be a design/manufacturing problem. Ejection issues seem to be a recurring theme with Glock, and based on what we see in TFB's video, Glock didn't fix that particular weakness. |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 3:10:52 PM EST
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Same grip angle and still no safety. No thanks.
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Posted: 8/25/2017 3:24:18 PM EST
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They didn't fix the ejection.
Brass isn't going very far, and if you look at the 8:00 mark, you'll see brass going out to the left (guy in the black t-shirt).  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ypvDS18V5o |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 3:24:30 PM EST
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Same grip angle and still no safety. No thanks. |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 3:26:29 PM EST
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Gen 3 was built for 9mm. Then they screwed it up by trying to make it a 40 gun Gen 4 was built for 40. Then they screwed it up by trying to make it a 9mm gun. So Gen 5 was built to make up for the deficiencies of the 9mm Gen 4 which was built to make up for the deficiencies of the 40 Gen 3.
It seems they finally pulled the handbrake on that design merry go round. Gen 5 G34? |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 3:35:33 PM EST
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Same grip angle and still no safety. No thanks. |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 3:37:09 PM EST
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They didn't fix the ejection.
Brass isn't going very far, and if you look at the 8:00 mark, you'll see brass going out to the left (guy in the black t-shirt). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ypvDS18V5o |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 3:38:28 PM EST
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Mean rounds between failure tests always include normal cleaning intervals |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 3:51:11 PM EST
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I think they are something like the FBI contract sights, if not exactly them. You can order them by phone from Ameriglo directly. See this thread. 
Edit: these are different than the fbi ones, th ill se have a U notch not square. Smilar but one you can order the other not. And if these are similar id rather have the cheaper ones.
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Posted: 8/25/2017 4:09:14 PM EST
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The internal appear to be a scaled up 43. That's a good thing. |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 4:16:11 PM EST
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Same grip angle and still no safety. No thanks. How many do you need, four safeties instead of three? |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 4:17:36 PM EST
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There's nothing wrong with the ejection and never was. If you shoot weak ammo it'll eject weak. It's that simple. If you are going to shoot weak ammo put in a softer recoil spring. Amazingly, it'll eject further. The stock recoil spring is designed for +p+ basically. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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They didn't fix the ejection.
Brass isn't going very far, and if you look at the 8:00 mark, you'll see brass going out to the left (guy in the black t-shirt). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ypvDS18V5oI'd bet if you put that same ammo in just about any competing pistol, we'd see proper ejection. Also, I tried putting +P ammo in my G19 to see if it would help with ejection. It didn't. |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 4:18:40 PM EST
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Got mine, I like it, trigger is better than Gen4 by a fair margin.
It's not orders of magnitude better or anything but I like it 
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Posted: 8/25/2017 4:20:10 PM EST
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Got mine, I like it, trigger is better than Gen4 by a fair margin. It's not orders of magnitude better or anything but I like it http://i63.tinypic.com/10ztojn.png |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 4:22:14 PM EST
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"Well This is my safety, sir" How many do you need, four safeties instead of three? If I was gonna buy a Glock, I'd try and find a way to procure a Gen5. I think these guns look like meaningful improvements over the legacy system. I'd prefer a manual safety, but it's not a deal breaker. I think a handgun with Ameriglo sights, flared mag well, interchangeable backstraps, good texturing on the grip, undercut trigger guard (it looks like), proper dehorning, durable finish, a good accurate barrel, rail, 21oz (G19) empty, no finger grooves, ambi slide stops, reversible enlarged magazine catch, lanyard loop (it matters to me, and some military units), serviceable trigger, capable of 30k between parts breakages, 15-33rd mag capacity, and a ton of holster options available is a handgun worth looking at. If the Gen4 grip plugs fit in it, even better. |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 4:23:23 PM EST
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Series 80 1911s have four. (Grip safety, thumb safety, firing pin block, half cock notch.) If I was gonna buy a Glock, I'd try and find a way to procure a Gen5. I think these guns look like meaningful improvements over the legacy system. I'd prefer a manual safety, but it's not a deal breaker. 
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Posted: 8/25/2017 4:24:18 PM EST
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hows the finish on it? The barrel is showing wear already, only 500rds in. |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 4:26:07 PM EST
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series 80 1911s need that many safeties because only retards buy them 
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Posted: 8/25/2017 4:26:37 PM EST
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So so, not as nice as the Sig PVD. The barrel is showing wear already, only 500rds in.
i expected the barrel to look like shit almost immediately, happened to every 19 ive owned. |
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Posted: 8/25/2017 4:27:11 PM EST
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Posted: 8/25/2017 4:29:13 PM EST
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Same grip angle and still no safety. No thanks. As far as the safety.
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Posted: 8/25/2017 4:33:26 PM EST
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havent you heard? 1911s are for retards and glock master race
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