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Posted: 10/3/2017 11:57:29 PM EST
[#1]
mark of the beast ?
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Posted: 10/3/2017 11:57:50 PM EST
[#2]
Majority of the SSN's were hacked anyways between Eqfx, OPM, Target, Anthem, etc.
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Posted: 10/3/2017 11:57:53 PM EST
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I hope so. Never meant for ID.
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Posted: 10/3/2017 11:58:41 PM EST
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Yeah, people just put down their SSN on everything before identity theft was a big thing. Blockbuster member application, U-Haul rental, job applications... Kind of crazy now that you think about it.
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Posted: 10/4/2017 12:01:29 AM EST
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Hopefully we can get RFID chips implanted in our arms. It will make the FEMA camps that much more efficient.
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Posted: 10/4/2017 12:02:56 AM EST
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Majority of the SSN's were hacked anyways between Eqfx, OPM, Target, Anthem, etc. |
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Posted: 10/4/2017 12:06:19 AM EST
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I’ve had my SS number “hacked.” I say hacked because some ass hat with the same first name as me, and live close to me has the exact same number as me except for one digit. And the scumbag owes for stuff all over. It’s a total nightmare.
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Posted: 10/4/2017 12:25:19 AM EST
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Equifiax just got a new contract with the IRS lol. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Majority of the SSN's were hacked anyways between Eqfx, OPM, Target, Anthem, etc. |
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Posted: 10/4/2017 12:38:03 AM EST
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I don't really understand why it wouldn't be used for I.D. purposes? Why issue people a unique number at all if not to use it for identification? Or was the idea that it would literally only be used for paying into/receiving social security? It all seems semantic to me. So you ditch the SS# and use a different national ID...so what? That can be stolen or misued too. Might as well keep using what we already have, unless we want to drop the notion of a national identity card completely. Meh.
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Posted: 10/4/2017 12:39:10 AM EST
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Hopefully we can get RFID chips implanted in our arms. It will make the FEMA camps that much more efficient. 
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Posted: 10/4/2017 12:40:27 AM EST
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My SS card says right on it, not to be used for identification.
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Posted: 10/4/2017 12:40:29 AM EST
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I hope so. Never meant for ID. |
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Posted: 10/4/2017 12:54:19 AM EST
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I don't really understand why it wouldn't be used for I.D. purposes? Why issue people a unique number at all if not to use it for identification? Or was the idea that it would literally only be used for paying into/receiving social security? It all seems semantic to me. So you ditch the SS# and use a different national ID...so what? That can be stolen or misued too. Might as well keep using what we already have, unless we want to drop the notion of a national identity card completely. Meh. |
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Posted: 10/4/2017 1:11:11 AM EST
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Good - virtually everyone's SSN is now compromised.
Everyone should get a new SSN that is only used for applying for SS benefits. They should have a separate federal taxpayer ID number only for filing with the IRS & state. This needs to be updated: make it a felony with a 5-year mandatory minimum & a $10K mandatory minimum fine for anyone who compels disclosure of either new number for any other purpose (IE: banking & credit, obtaining a drivers license, etc); https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/42/408 (a) In general Whoever— (8) discloses, uses, or compels the disclosure of the social security number of any person in violation of the laws of the United States; shall be guilty of a felony and upon conviction thereof shall be fined under title 18 or imprisoned for not more than five years, or both, except that in the case of a person who receives a fee or other income for services performed in connection with any determination with respect to benefits under this subchapter (including a claimant representative, translator, or current or former employee of the Social Security Administration), or who is a physician or other health care provider who submits, or causes the submission of, medical or other evidence in connection with any such determination, such person shall be guilty of a felony and upon conviction thereof shall be fined under title 18, or imprisoned for not more than ten years, or both. |
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Posted: 10/4/2017 1:20:59 AM EST
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I've heard back in the day the SSN cards used to say "not for identification." Would be nice if everyone could stop using them for ID purposes again. I still have my original that was issued in about 1982 when I applied for my first job and that's what it says. |
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Posted: 10/4/2017 2:15:53 AM EST
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Good - virtually everyone's SSN is now compromised. Everyone should get a new SSN that is only used for applying for SS benefits. They should have a separate federal taxpayer ID number only for filing with the IRS & state. |
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Posted: 10/4/2017 2:31:42 AM EST
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What do they propose replacing it with
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Posted: 10/4/2017 3:01:34 AM EST
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What do they propose replacing it with |
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Posted: 10/4/2017 3:03:25 AM EST
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Something that allows them to legitimise all those undocumented voters... |
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Posted: 10/4/2017 4:22:50 AM EST
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What do they propose replacing it with 
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Posted: 10/4/2017 5:19:22 AM EST
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While I don't always like his stuff, Grey summed up the problems of the SSN quite nicely
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Erp8IAUouus[/youtube] |
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Posted: 10/4/2017 5:21:17 AM EST
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What do they propose replacing it with |
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Posted: 10/4/2017 5:24:40 AM EST
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I still have my original that was issued in about 1982 when I applied for my first job and that's what it says. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I've heard back in the day the SSN cards used to say "not for identification." Would be nice if everyone could stop using them for ID purposes again. I still have my original that was issued in about 1982 when I applied for my first job and that's what it says. Like some of the other guys, if it gets replaced, like with the edipi, what difference does it make? The new system will get comprimised as well. If we all start using our driver license #, that'll get hacked just the same as a ss# and we're back to square one. It's like gun control, you're only making life more difficult for honest people. |
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Posted: 10/4/2017 5:25:18 AM EST
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I've heard back in the day the SSN cards used to say "not for identification." Mine does, |
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Posted: 10/4/2017 5:36:42 AM EST
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I still have my original that was issued in about 1982 when I applied for my first job and that's what it says. |
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Posted: 10/4/2017 5:38:43 AM EST
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I got one when I started school at 5 or 6, still have it. Amazingly enough can still read it after 40 years of being in my wallet. Mine would be destroyed in a month if not laminated. Yes, I'm one of those idiot back pocket carriers.
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Posted: 10/4/2017 5:54:19 AM EST
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Where do you carry your wallet? Mine would be destroyed in a month if not laminated. Yes, I'm one of those idiot back pocket carriers. Edit to say I always have carried in side pocket. |
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Posted: 10/4/2017 6:09:34 AM EST
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Barcodes tattooed on us, just like hitman?
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Posted: 10/4/2017 6:14:23 AM EST
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I never carry my SS card. I only need it once every decade. It's in the safety deposit box with my bank.
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Posted: 10/4/2017 6:16:16 AM EST
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I've gone round and round with some front desk people at Dr's offices over this before. I refuse to give it to them. I always tell them that if I can't trust the state (SC had a huge breach a few years ago) to keep my shit secure, I sure don't trust a small medical office.
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Posted: 10/4/2017 6:16:59 AM EST
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What do they propose replacing it with |
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Posted: 10/4/2017 6:18:31 AM EST
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Where do you carry your wallet? Mine would be destroyed in a month if not laminated. Yes, I'm one of those idiot back pocket carriers. |
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Posted: 10/4/2017 6:24:08 AM EST
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Where do you carry your wallet? Mine would be destroyed in a month if not laminated. Yes, I'm one of those idiot back pocket carriers. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I got one when I started school at 5 or 6, still have it. Amazingly enough can still read it after 40 years of being in my wallet. Mine would be destroyed in a month if not laminated. Yes, I'm one of those idiot back pocket carriers. |
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Posted: 10/4/2017 6:29:23 AM EST
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Hopefully we can get RFID chips implanted in our arms. It will make the FEMA camps that much more efficient. |
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Posted: 10/4/2017 6:38:09 AM EST
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https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/10/white-house-wants-to-end-social-security-numbers-as-a-national-id/ I've heard back in the day the SSN cards used to say "not for identification." This is a fact. |
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Posted: 10/4/2017 6:41:51 AM EST
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Majority of the SSN's were hacked anyways between Eqfx, OPM, Target, Anthem, etc. that ship has sailed. I blame Bill Clinton/Janet Reno. Reno announced that the feds wouldn't object to utilities using your SS as ID for an account. |
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Posted: 10/4/2017 6:49:20 AM EST
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And just what replaces them as a form of ID? What will our glorious overlords purpose as official ID. I don't like the use of SSN either, but does this just give rise to another nefarious plan to control us? "Papers please"?
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Posted: 10/4/2017 6:52:04 AM EST
[#38]
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And just what replaces them as a form of ID? What will our glorious overlords purpose as official ID. I don't like the use of SSN either, but does this just give rise to another nefarious plan to control us? "Papers please"? |
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Posted: 10/4/2017 7:01:56 AM EST
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I say we just chip everyone at birth, it would be simpler that way. Want to vote? got have your chip. All your money could be stored on the chip. They could wire it to your brain so you could make phone calls from the chip. Your chip could scan other peoples chips and see their criminal past, whether they are gun owners, if they voted D or R. The chip could sense the drugs in your system and stop you from doing things, like driving. The chip could make stupid people smarter and smarter people a little stupider to level the playing field. The chip could have a tiny bomb in it, to prevent mass shootings.
What a perfect plan. |
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Posted: 10/4/2017 7:04:40 AM EST
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SS was also ment to be voluntary, look how that turned out....
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Posted: 10/4/2017 7:10:08 AM EST
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And just what replaces them as a form of ID? What will our glorious overlords purpose as official ID. I don't like the use of SSN either, but does this just give rise to another nefarious plan to control us? "Papers please"? Something you know: Password + Something you have: RFID Token Generator |
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Posted: 10/4/2017 7:22:40 AM EST
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We really should go the way Estonia went with their ID. Chipped card that is done for all business. Including voting.
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Posted: 10/4/2017 7:29:51 AM EST
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Something that allows them to legitimise all those undocumented voters... |
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Posted: 10/4/2017 7:30:28 AM EST
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Something you know: Password + Something you have: RFID Token Generator Something you are: (retina scan) 
Of course we all know the real answer. 
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Posted: 10/4/2017 7:30:41 AM EST
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What do they propose replacing it with How about a nice barcode tattoo on one's inner forearm? |
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Posted: 10/4/2017 7:31:15 AM EST
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Fine. Just send me a check for what I'm owned and I'll invest it myself. Problem solved.
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Posted: 10/4/2017 7:33:26 AM EST
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My Dad's card clearly states, Not for Identification Purposes.
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Posted: 10/4/2017 7:34:35 AM EST
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barcode tattoo Name: Sure, Not
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Posted: 10/4/2017 7:45:29 AM EST
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When SS cards first came out, people at that time didn't want a SSN for identification fearing it was a step toward the mark of the beast, therefore, the compromise was to put 'not for identification' on the cards. The mark of the beast, whenever it surfaces, requires a person to take the mark AND pledge allegiance to the beast People who do so will be forever damned. Obviously, SSN's and a Natiional ID are not the mark of the beast.
However, IMO, National ID's are not needed. They are not an enhancement to our freedoms as they will ultimately be used to implement additional controls over the populace. Eventually, a system will be establushed that will allow a person/political party with evil intent to utilize the facial recognition, locating, and other microchipped data on the National ID to track and control peoples ability to buy, sell, work, obtain medical, receive gov't benefits, travel, etc.... Like a current credit card that can be disabled when reported stolen, your National ID could be quickly 'disabled' if you do not conform to the desires of the party controling the National ID. |
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Posted: 10/4/2017 7:51:03 AM EST
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My standard answer is, "Cool! You mean I'm getting PAID for this? Because unless you're reporting my earnings to the government you ain't getting my SSN!"
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