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Posted: 10/25/2017 7:05:49 AM EDT
I'm looking at trucks and trailers for tractors and wanted the hives opinion. What set up would you go for to tow a 5500 lb tractor. My f150 isn't going to make the cut.
Link Posted: 10/25/2017 7:09:05 AM EDT
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Depending on your F150 year model and style you should be fine. A 5500lb tractor plus a 2000lb trailer is only 7500lbs, which is well with in the most half tons towing capability.
Link Posted: 10/25/2017 7:14:00 AM EDT
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I'll save you $50 grand.



Just drive the tractor wherever you need to go.
Link Posted: 10/25/2017 7:15:35 AM EDT
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Yea... aren’t some of the newer 150s rated at like 13k or 13.5k or something? Most people vastly over spend on their “tow” vehicles
Link Posted: 10/25/2017 7:17:07 AM EDT
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How far are you moving it and what is the terrain like?

How often do you plan to move it?
Link Posted: 10/25/2017 7:19:16 AM EDT
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Lol.  Prepare for a bunch of people to tell you about how their half ton can tow 15k pounds.

I'd pick up an old F250. If you're pulling it more than about once a year I'd get a trailer with brakes.  I sold my 7.3 with 300k miles on it and now drive a 5.4 with 300k.
Link Posted: 10/25/2017 7:21:15 AM EDT
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12,200-12,400 Range. That’s with the HD tow package.


OP if I was you I’d look for a tandem axle 20’ trailer with 5000’ axles minimum, or preferably 7k axles. That would put you in the 2500 weight range for the trailer, and leave plenty of truck left for your F-150 as long as it’s a newer truck. Just make sure the truck has trailer brakes, and your truck has a brake controller.

If you’re towing it daily then step up to a 3/4 ton gasser. My vote is F-250 with the 6.2.
Link Posted: 10/25/2017 7:22:21 AM EDT
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Knowing the year model of the truck and body style would help with the answer, the best equipped F150's have a max tow of around 10k I think.
Link Posted: 10/25/2017 7:26:25 AM EDT
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The only thing that can tow that massive load is an F350 King Ranch with 7 cameras and a trailer back up assist knob.
Link Posted: 10/25/2017 7:30:23 AM EDT
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Okay well first off let's look at some real weights.


5500lb tractor.  You would need at least a 7000lb gvw trailer. (Twin 3500lb axles under it.) More realistic would be a 10k gvw trailer, at least for my comfort. (twin 5k axles under it.)

How much deck do you want? 14ft? 16ft?

Do you want a dump trailer? Or hydraulic tilt? Or just a flat bed landscaping type?

Dump trailers are heavy.  My 14ft weighs in around 5000lbs alone.  A simple flat bed would be significantly less. Probably around 2500-3000

So adding that up, you're between 8500lbs to 10000lbs+ depending on your tailer choices.


Can an f150 tow that? Yes. New half tons can.

Comfortably? Fuck no. You have to do weight relieving hitches and everything like that normally.

I'd go with an f250/350 in your budget.

And personally I'd spring for a dump trailer. Because they're beyond handy.
Link Posted: 10/25/2017 7:47:54 AM EDT
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Good advice here.

Especially on the tandem 5k axles. If you're moving the tractor with any regularity you'll find yourself squeezing implements, extra buckets, and all sorts of other stuff onto the trailer. It's nice knowing that the capacity is there. It's also nice when your trailer takes a flat tire that the other axle isn't ridiculously overloaded.

If you have the room to park it, get more deck than you think you need. If you can barely squeeze your machine onto the trailer, you'll be sorry.

Dump trailers are monstrosities. It's like having a small garbage truck around. Not for everyone. A tip down bed will make your life much easier.

How often are you moving this thing around?

I know the newer half tons are boasting the tow numbers of a Peter-built. It seems stupid to me. Have trouble believing it. If the trailer gets unplugged or something goes wrong, I'd really rather have the 3/4-ton or better suspension and brakes on board when I'm trying to control a load.
Link Posted: 10/25/2017 7:57:00 AM EDT
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If you have the room to park it, get more deck than you think you need. If you can barely squeeze your machine onto the trailer, you'll be sorry.
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If you have the room to park it, get more deck than you think you need. If you can barely squeeze your machine onto the trailer, you'll be sorry.
What good is a tractor without implements?

A three point bushog, plow or disc can add another 8 feet to back and another 1-2000 pounds.

Loader on the front end or planning to purchase later on?
Link Posted: 10/25/2017 8:08:14 AM EDT
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I would go with twin or triple 7000 axles
Link Posted: 10/25/2017 8:13:01 AM EDT
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I've never liked triples.  Easy way to bend axles if you turn too sharp.  

If you need triple 7's just go up to dual 10s with tandems.  And at that point go to a goose neck.  

I love my 20k gvw goose neck equipment trailer. But for a 5500lb tractor it's over kill.

My thought process is 5500lb tractor is dry weight. Not driving weight.  So realistically 6000lb.

Any implements or such beyond that.. twin 5s gives you another 1000-1500lbs past the weight of the tractor and trailer breathing room.  Should be enough for a FEL or brush hog.

TLB? Probably go with a heavier set up.
Link Posted: 10/25/2017 8:22:46 AM EDT
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You could always rent a 10K trailer.How many times are you moving the tractor?Buy a 3/4 ton truck.
Link Posted: 10/25/2017 8:25:22 AM EDT
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Yea... aren’t some of the newer 150s rated at like 13k or 13.5k or something? Most people vastly over spend on their “tow” vehicles
Close 3.5 eco boost 4X2 pulls 12k.  My 4X4 pulls 11.2k.
Link Posted: 10/25/2017 8:30:16 AM EDT
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Dodge 2500 and a heavy duty tandem axle deck over. You are going to hate fighting fender wells when pulling a tractor onto it.
Link Posted: 10/25/2017 8:31:32 AM EDT
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What tractor are you towing that weighs 5500 lbs? I will assume it is not a CUT. It would have to be a JD 5-series or higher(or the equivalent in other manufacturers).

You will likely need to get a deck over to have enough width to park on the trailer. Especially if you plan to have implements wider than 6'.



Some of these estimates are crazy high for load capacity.  Twin 10 axles for a 20k lb trailer to load a 5.5k tractor is beyond stupid when it comes to cost of the trailer and overall cost of use/ownership.


One thing for certain, though, is that how often or far you plan to haul can make an impact on what you want to buy. If for short distances only occasionally, you "might" be able to get by with a 7k gross trailer behind a trailer brake equipped F150. If you plan to haul long distance and a lot, I would go with some overkill on the heavy duty part for truck and trailer.
Link Posted: 10/25/2017 8:34:25 AM EDT
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1995 ford ranger should do the trick.
Link Posted: 10/25/2017 8:43:07 AM EDT
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How often are you towing the tractor?  On a regular basis or a once a year type thig?  You may wear out a half-ton pulling that much weight regularly , even though it may be rated for it.


I'd put pen to paper and see if its worth buying a 3/4 ton truck , or just paying someone to do whatever job it is you need done that makes you consider all of this in the first place.


Just something to consider.
Link Posted: 10/25/2017 10:15:23 PM EDT
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12,200-12,400 Range. That’s with the HD tow package.


OP if I was you I’d look for a tandem axle 20’ trailer with 5000’ axles minimum, or preferably 7k axles. That would put you in the 2500 weight range for the trailer, and leave plenty of truck left for your F-150 as long as it’s a newer truck. Just make sure the truck has trailer brakes, and your truck has a brake controller.

If you’re towing it daily then step up to a 3/4 ton gasser. My vote is F-250 with the 6.2.  
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You might want to check into upgrading your truck's brakes, too.  Look into Ford Super Duty Brake Pads for your F-150.  I put them on my F-150 when I was planning to haul a race car and gear with it on a regular basis.  Noticeable difference from standard pads and much cheaper than aftermarket heavy duty brake pads.
Link Posted: 10/27/2017 6:13:50 PM EDT
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Thanks for the info all. I'm thinking of going fore 3/4. Yes I plan on hauling a brush hog with it. Living on 10 acres of mostly open and I plan on buying 50+ that I plan on hogging at least a few times a year. Dont really want to rely on someone for that work.

So which truck? Diesel or not? I like jap vehicles not even sure there are jap trucks up for the job? I also like the idea of cummins. So many choices like my 150 but not sure how u feel about another ford.
Link Posted: 10/27/2017 6:20:35 PM EDT
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My tractor is around 6000,  maybe 6500 depending on implement.
Trailer are 2200 and 2900#.

6.0 PSD pulls fine
Link Posted: 10/27/2017 7:06:07 PM EDT
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2017-10-27_06-02-42 by ,

2017-10-27_06-00-29 by ,

Chev 2500 HD 8.1.    No issues.
Link Posted: 10/27/2017 7:25:33 PM EDT
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Hell my MF 231 is over 4000 dry. Tires are loaded. FEL on it is HEAVY aftermarket unit. 6' tiller, or bush hog aint light. Usually have other implements/ crap on trailer too.
It adds up.
Towing is one thing.
STOPPING is another.
Link Posted: 10/27/2017 7:42:11 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 10/27/2017 8:24:48 PM EDT
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As others have said, it really comes down to how often you'd need to move the equipment and how far/ expected terrain.  But if you are going to work 50-60 acres you'll probably be needing to haul a lot more things than just that tractor. And as also been pointed out, you'll usually be moving implements with it too so sizing your trailer is important.   For the size tractor you are talking about I don't think I'd even look at 1/2 tons though they may indeed be able to handle it, I'd just feel better with a 3/4 ton or better.  Unless you plan to tow a lot, diesel would be an unnecessary and  costly option there.

As for trailers (and also mentioned), I'm an advocate for deckovers too.  You get a lot more deckspace and they are wider than an car/equipment hauler type and if you load trailers from the side with a loader at all like me, they are much easier to deal with.  I'd buy the longest flatbed my truck would be rated for if it was me because I swear, no matter how big they are, sometimes it seems you STILL don't have enough room for everything you want on.

You'll find all kinds of uses for trailers like that too that you never thought of until you need it.

This is a 20' deckover with a 5' dovetail and it hauls all sorts of equipment ...tractors/bobcats/cars/trucks etc and with larger tractors you can leave FELs on with a bush hog attached to the back no problem.  This truck and trailer would probably be overkill for your needs but I just want to make sure you don't short change yourself when it comes to making decisions on your tow equipment.





Link Posted: 10/27/2017 8:27:44 PM EDT
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Peterbilt 379 is the answer you seek
Link Posted: 10/27/2017 10:20:58 PM EDT
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Kind of want
Link Posted: 10/27/2017 10:29:17 PM EDT
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Living on 10 acres of mostly open and I plan on buying 50+ that I plan on hogging at least a few times a year. Dont really want to rely on someone for that work.
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What year is your F150?  How far is the 50 acres?  Personally, if you have a decently new F150, I don't see you needing another truck....just get a good 10-12k lb rated trailer with brakes on both axles and call it a day.  You'll probably need to add a brake controller, but unless you are simply looking for a reason to buy a new truck, I think you'd be fine with what you have for occasional/short towing needs.
Link Posted: 10/27/2017 10:29:45 PM EDT
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Mack r600


Ford l9000


GMC 9500
Link Posted: 10/27/2017 10:39:05 PM EDT
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If the tractor has a FEL, I would get one long enough to accommodate the loader and an attachment on the rear(disk, bush hog, etc). On the trailer, remember you need to also account for the weight of the trailer on your axles as well as all of your equipment plus the tractor.  Might also want to account for the weight of filled tractor tires.  As far as style of trailer, I have a split tilt trailer and I couldn't imagine one being easier or safer to load.
Link Posted: 10/27/2017 11:10:42 PM EDT
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Yep, with a lowboy. One where you can detach and drive stuff off the front. 

That is the way to go.
Link Posted: 10/27/2017 11:14:04 PM EDT
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That is the way to go.
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Have one.


Hydraulic fold down fronts are better FYI.

We keep the detach one for heavier used. But the hydraulic fold down is way better.
Link Posted: 10/27/2017 11:56:31 PM EDT
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Have one.


Hydraulic fold down fronts are better FYI.

We keep the detach one for heavier used. But the hydraulic fold down is way better.
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Want.
Moving the excavator is a pain.
Link Posted: 10/28/2017 12:09:12 AM EDT
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Moving the excavator is a pain.
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Have one.


Hydraulic fold down fronts are better FYI.

We keep the detach one for heavier used. But the hydraulic fold down is way better.
Want.
Moving the excavator is a pain.
Super handy.  They're used a lot in paving. Ours is set up to haul cranes around. But we use it to haul our 315 and dozers around.
Link Posted: 10/28/2017 12:16:39 AM EDT
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Kind of want
then you'd need to get a CDL, just get yourself a nice 325

http://www.peterbilt.com/products/medium-duty/325/
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